Texas and Green Energy

[jfegaly]

How those windmills working out?

Tucker Carlson: The great Texas climate catastrophe is heading your way

The Green New Deal has come, believe it or not, to the state of Texas. How's it working out so far?

www.foxnews.com

 

[fatman76]

Who cares if grandma dies from being cold, we're saving the earth.

Now pass some more Covid regulations to protect the elderly please.

 

[LauderdaleNole]

Saving the earth my ass...more like making billionaires out of 'well heeled' millionaires...as an example...I wonder who the 'individual land owners' in all of these projects are?

The Roscoe Wind Farm near Roscoe, Texas is one of the world's largest-capacity wind farms. In 2012, it was overtaken by California's 1,020-megawatt Alta Wind Energy Center.
Cliff Etheredge, a local cotton farmer, helped to organize the project. In addition to its large size, the farm is also notable for the large number of individual land owners (as many as 400) who share in royalties from the project.

Moooooove over cattle ranchers

 

[kjfreeze]

How those windmills working out?

Tucker Carlson: The great Texas climate catastrophe is heading your way

The Green New Deal has come, believe it or not, to the state of Texas. How's it working out so far?

www.foxnews.com

Yep - they're freezing up and getting shut down. Plus, it takes OIL to make the parts and OIL to lube the engines and OIL to get the workers there to service them and to build them. Imagine that.

 

[kjfreeze]

Do y'all remember when those stupid environmentalists cried because those ugly oil derricks destroyed the view of nature and would also endanger a little lizard? Hmm...

 

[BillCutting4585]

Do y'all remember when those stupid environmentalists cried because those ugly oil derricks destroyed the view of nature and would also endanger a little lizard? Hmm...

Birds bro, it’s all about the birds.

They’re dying, what will the environmentalist do?

 

[BamaFan1137]

If all of you people would just agree to move back into caves, eat vegetables (only) and stop procreating they would get off our back.

I've decided to be an oligarch so yea, I'm not doing any of that stuff...but you guys should. Immediately.

 

[GADAWGinIraq]

 

[GADAWGinIraq]

 

[Billabong4356]

Saving the earth my ass...more like making billionaires out of 'well heeled' millionaires...as an example...I wonder who the 'individual land owners' in all of these projects are?

The Roscoe Wind Farm near Roscoe, Texas is one of the world's largest-capacity wind farms. In 2012, it was overtaken by California's 1,020-megawatt Alta Wind Energy Center.
Cliff Etheredge, a local cotton farmer, helped to organize the project. In addition to its large size, the farm is also notable for the large number of individual land owners (as many as 400) who share in royalties from the project.

Moooooove over cattle ranchers

Remember when Obozo dumped billions into solar right off the bat? Who did well on that deal? Besides all his buddies from the CIA.....I mean uhhhh Harvard. Ya Harvard.

 

[nail1988]

AOC just beat Sheila Jackson Lee for the lowest IQ in the house

Dumb as a box of rocks


Ocasio-Cortez Slams Texas: That’s What Happens ‘When You Don’t Pursue A Green New Deal’

Ocasio-Cortez Slams Texas: That’s What Happens ‘When You Don’t Pursue A Green New Deal’

On Wednesday, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) took a swipe at Texas political leaders, propounding that the suffering Texans are experiencing because of the freezing cold and concomitant power outages could have been addressed by her “Green New Deal.” Ocasio-Cortez tweeted, “The...

www.dailywire.com

 

[NavigatorII]

Sad does like them dumb. 😂

 

[G8trDad3]

Of course there is a less hyper reactive side to the story. https://www.texastribune.org/2021/02/16/texas-wind-turbines-frozen/

 

[jfegaly]

Of course there is a less hyper reactive side to the story. https://www.texastribune.org/2021/02/16/texas-wind-turbines-frozen/

of course you linked a liberal texas rag. Let me show you how stats can be spun.

https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/articles/2021-02-14/icy-weather-chills-texas-wind-energy-as-deep-freeze-grips-much-of-us

Thats HALF of the wind energy that literally froze. Now imagine if we depended on wind and solar for everything. The amount of ish we would be in would be greater.

 

[G8trDad3]

of course you linked a liberal texas rag. Let me show you how stats can be spun.

https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/articles/2021-02-14/icy-weather-chills-texas-wind-energy-as-deep-freeze-grips-much-of-us

Thats HALF of the wind energy that literally froze. Now imagine if we depended on wind and solar for everything. The amount of ish we would be in would be greater.

So according to your article, half the wind power was lost. Later in the article it states that wind power accounted for 23% of power generated in the past year. So Texas lost 12% of its power when the windmills froze. There were other factors including natural gas disruptions more responsible. I make no claim to know about energy resource distribution. Just pointing out how we often pick and choose and promote the headlines that fit our agenda.

 

[jfegaly]

So according to your article, half the wind power was lost. Later in the article it states that wind power accounted for 23% of power generated in the past year. So Texas lost 12% of its power when the windmills froze. There were other factors including natural gas disruptions more responsible. I make no claim to know about energy resource distribution. Just pointing out how we often pick and choose and promote the headlines that fit our agenda.

actually Texas lost 13 percent of all power due to wind turbines. What is the point you’re trying to make? Bottom line, we depend more on gas, coal etc, so of course there is going to be a higher total percentage of failure there. Not sure we are disagreeing. Lets look at it like we would per capita And extrapolate that out to IF everything were equal. If we had equal reliance on all sources, wind was the biggest failure by far. Imagine if we were solely dependent on wind. 50 percent of all texans would be without power today. thats the point I am making.

 

[BCSpell]

Yep - they're freezing up and getting shut down. Plus, it takes OIL to make the parts and OIL to lube the engines and OIL to get the workers there to service them and to build them. Imagine that.

Not to mention the fuel used by the helicopters that have to hover over them so they can spray some (probably oil based) chenical to help de-ice the windmills. Sounds like a winner for the environment.

 

[G8trDad3]

actually Texas lost 13 percent of all power due to wind turbines. What is the point you’re trying to make? Bottom line, we depend more on gas, coal etc, so of course there is going to be a higher total percentage of failure there. Not sure we are disagreeing. Lets look at it like we would per capita And extrapolate that out to IF everything were equal. If we had equal reliance on all sources, wind was the biggest failure by far. Imagine if we were solely dependent on wind. 50 percent of all texans would be without power today. thats the point I am making.

Well, many posting here are gloating in the belief that wind energy is to blame for the power outages. I’m not defending wind power but just noting some posters have taken a small headline and used it to condemn all alt energy as wasteful and inefficient.

 

[BCSpell]

The colder it gets, the higher the demand/use rises for the energy. Thus more energy being used, which strains the system. Now, take away 13% of the available energy and that strained system now breaks down because it can't produce enough.

 

[Billabong4356]

Well, many posting here are gloating in the belief that wind energy is to blame for the power outages. I’m not defending wind power but just noting some posters have taken a small headline and used it to condemn all alt energy as wasteful and inefficient.

It’s being condemned as an alleged “savior” along with solar to get us off coal and gas. Speaking for the conservatives on the board this is about the Green New Deal. We all know it’s a sham. It’s all a part of the great reset to send us back to feudal times.
AOC thinks we don’t need anything but solar and wind. Oh ya. and less cows. Cuz they fart too much. But imagine 15% of the entire USA lost power when temps dipped below freezing as they did in Texas. Then what? How do the banksters properly pull the levers to keep the economy afloat when NYSE is out of power?
It looks like once these turbines freeze up they don’t function again until they’ve thawed out.

What happens up north when this happens with the first storm in November? They wouldn’t be thawing out anytime soon in Minnesota or surrounding areas once froze up. Well. Unless they decide to burn down more of the twin cities or Detroit.

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

It’s being condemned as an alleged “savior” along with solar to get us off coal and gas. Speaking for the conservatives on the board this is about the Green New Deal. We all know it’s a sham. It’s all a part of the great reset to send us back to feudal times.
AOC thinks we don’t need anything but solar and wind. Oh ya. and less cows. Cuz they fart too much. But imagine 15% of the entire USA lost power when temps dipped below freezing as they did in Texas. Then what? How do the banksters properly pull the levers to keep the economy afloat when NYSE is out of power?
It looks like once these turbines freeze up they don’t function again until they’ve thawed out.

What happens up north when this happens with the first storm in November? They wouldn’t be thawing out anytime soon in Minnesota or surrounding areas once froze up. Well. Unless they decide to burn down more of the twin cities or Detroit.

Well now you see why I want to move to the woods and be self sufficient. Central planning may be efficient but it erodes freedom and is dangerous in times of crisis.

So I would hope to have solar but also wood for heat. i would grow a crop like sugar beets to create ethanol for lighting and electricity from a generator converted to run on ethanol. I plan to also have a propane powered one.

Wood though is still the ultimate source in a grid down situation.

 

[BillCutting4585]

Well now you see why I want to move to the woods and be self sufficient. Central planning may be efficient but it erodes freedom and is dangerous in times of crisis.

So I would hope to have solar but also wood for heat. i would grow a crop like sugar beets to create ethanol for lighting and electricity from a generator converted to run on ethanol. I plan to also have a propane powered one.

Wood though is still the ultimate source in a grid down situation.

I’d run homemade ethanol to run any generators and wood for heat. I’d stay out of solar but mainly to not fund the CCP as most of if not all minerals used for the panels come from China.

Depending on your property and if it has a pretty decent size stream or river, look at hydro to power for your electricity.

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

I’d run homemade ethanol to run any generators and wood for heat. I’d stay out of solar but mainly to not fund the CCP as most of if not all minerals used for the panels come from China.

Depending on your property and if it has a pretty decent size stream or river, look at hydro to power for your electricity.

homemade ethanol isn't viable 24/7/365 that's why solar. Besides the generators would probably die quickly under a 24/7/365 use.

 

[BlueEyedGator17]

Well, many posting here are gloating in the belief that wind energy is to blame for the power outages. I’m not defending wind power but just noting some posters have taken a small headline and used it to condemn all alt energy as wasteful and inefficient.

Sounds like u are making a mountain out of a molehill. That’s not what is being said. Go and reread the posts. They are stating a fact about green energy that the left pushes as if we can do without gas. They are making valid points. Sorry if it doesn’t help the lefts agenda.

 

[Nolec]

Sounds like u are making a mountain out of a molehill. That’s not what is being said. Go and reread the posts. They are stating a fact about green energy that the left pushes as if we can do without gas. They are making valid points. Sorry if it doesn’t help the lefts agenda.

Texas infrastructure did not winterize correctly. Neither the natural gas plants or wind farms were able to operate without it. There was more failure of power % from gas but that was expected from the larger # of gas facilities.

 

[BlueEyedGator17]

Texas infrastructure did not winterize correctly. Neither the natural gas plants or wind farms were able to operate without it. There was more failure of power % from gas but that was expected from the larger # of gas facilities.

Oh. So now it’s Texas. Lol hey. U kindly post where u received ur info from ?

 

[Nolec]

Oh. So now it’s Texas. Lol hey. U kindly post where u received ur info from ?

OMG Post # 1, where were you the entire thread? LOL

 

[BlueEyedGator17]

OMG Post # 1, where were you the entire thread? LOL

Lol. Omg! Than u would be wrong snowflake. Btw. I don’t care if it’s fox’s info. I do more research than that. Lol.

 

[jfegaly]

Texas infrastructure did not winterize correctly. Neither the natural gas plants or wind farms were able to operate without it. There was more failure of power % from gas but that was expected from the larger # of gas facilities.

heres the thing. The gas plants can be insulated properly. The turbines? Not so much

 

[BamaFan1137]

Well, many posting here are gloating in the belief that wind energy is to blame for the power outages. I’m not defending wind power but just noting some posters have taken a small headline and used it to condemn all alt energy as wasteful and inefficient.

No reason to do that. Germany is proving to everyone that wind energy isn't ready for the big show.

One day I hope it is...or something similar. It sounds awesome!!! But only if it works and only if it makes sense monetarily...which it currently DOES NOT.

 

[Kingseve1]

heres the thing. The gas plants can be insulated properly. The turbines? Not so much

Wrong! Ask Iowa how there’s function year round.

 

[BlueEyedGator17]

Wrong! Ask Iowa how there’s function year round.

Really? Than why is Iowa experiencing blk outs ? Oh , let me guess. It’s not cause the frozen turbines. That can’t be it. Lol

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

The Left "geniuses" favor renewable only. The conservatives favor all of the above. There is nothing hard here. This is not classical mechanics.

 

[Nolec]

heres the thing. The gas plants can be insulated properly. The turbines? Not so much

Might want to tell Minn. where they so fine. LOL

 

[Nolec]

heres the thing. The gas plants can be insulated properly. The turbines? Not so much

"So it’s fair to ask: why don’t wind turbines fail all the time in colder climates, such as Canada, Sweden or the American Midwest?
The answer, in short, is that turbines in colder places are typically equipped with de-icing and other tools, such as built-in heating. " Today in Forbes. Who was in charge of the Tex. grid?

 

[NavigatorII]

"So it’s fair to ask: why don’t wind turbines fail all the time in colder climates, such as Canada, Sweden or the American Midwest?
The answer, in short, is that turbines in colder places are typically equipped with de-icing and other tools, such as built-in heating. " Today in Forbes. Who was in charge of the Tex. grid?

Again, what energy source is used to deice those bird killers? 😂

 

[jfegaly]

"So it’s fair to ask: why don’t wind turbines fail all the time in colder climates, such as Canada, Sweden or the American Midwest?
The answer, in short, is that turbines in colder places are typically equipped with de-icing and other tools, such as built-in heating. " Today in Forbes. Who was in charge of the Tex. grid?

Exactly. They aren’t insulated as I stated clearly. They are equipped with expensive heating and de-icing tools

 

[nail1988]

@Nolec 😂

 

[dingyibvs]

So, um, did anyone care to look up what percentage of natural gas power generation capacity has been out of commission?

 

[Nolec]

Again, what energy source is used to deice those bird killers? 😂

IDK. Likely the same as exposed fossil fuel lines. You started this thread with Carlson's ill researched ( or purposely misleading) diatribe blaming wind turbines, now it seems you have to try to move to operating costs.