Texas and Green Energy
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Depends on how you define it I suppose. The first wind turbine installed was 1999. Not sure when BSC was allowed to move here. So, not sure which came first. The egg, or the chicken
Any numbers? Seems like an easy thing to settle if we just know how much expected capacity of each source is knocked out. From what I gather it seemed like a similar amount. I didn't see any precise data, and I have no idea how people arrived at those numbers, so I can't really comment on it without more info.
While you're at it, do you have the numbers for nuclear? I'm a big fan of nuclear, and it seems like they've held up pretty well thus far.
Some guy who seems pretty in the know with ERCOT on the football board said wind has a lot of support in rural areas in West Texas, which I suppose isn't terribly surprising given that's where most are built.
I was browsing through the UT and TAMU message boards yesterday. There are lots folks working in the energy industry on those boards as one might expect. What struck me was that not a single one who works in the industry pointed the finger at any specific method of generation. It seems that the consensus is that Texas' strategy of keeping little reserve capacity enabling lower prices in regular years is a key contributor. It's like choosing a lower premium, higher deductible insurance - works great most of the time, but not so great when shiz hits the fan.
Was trying to find an article i found yesterday that broke it down as a failure by percentage of each capacity. For example. Winds capacity was 25,000 and it was reduced to 12,000 output at one point. However, it only accounts for around 20 percent of total output. Nuclear, gas, and coal account for around 80 percent output. Ercot was attributing 30 gw loss to those 3 sources and 16gw to wind turbines. Seems pretty straight forward on which had the higher percentage failure based on capacity. The media however, is spinning like they always do, and don’t want anyone to look at details like....wait, your combining 3 sources and comparing to 1.
That makes sense, something like that would point toward an inferiority of wind whose magnitude of failure would only be masked by its relatively small share of power generation.
Do you happen to have the article with ERCOT's attribution? 16GW does sound like a lot for wind. Usually wind's power generation capacity is far higher than its actual power generation as they're never running at full capacity being an intermittent source. Being 16GW less than expected is a pretty big drop.
I think probably an even easier number to understand, if we can get access to it, is what's the expected % of power generation by source at this time of the year vs. what's the actual % right now. For example, if wind is expected to generate 20% of the power today, but it was only generating 15%, then it's being outperformed by the field. If it generated 25% instead, the it'd be outperforming thr field. This would help identify the biggest culprit, even if not the underlying issues.
No, frozen wind turbines aren't the main culprit for Texas' power outages
The lost wind power makes up only a fraction of the reduction in power-generating capacity that brought outages to millions of Texans during a winter storm.
How does that positively impact what has occurred with the wind farms?
Did the gas issues fix the wind farm issues?
In 21 years, Germany has increased green energy production to 40% of the net, they've doubled their already high AF energy costs and they've reduced their energy production greenhouse gasses by somewhere between 3 to 5%. They've spent $150 billion on this endeavor.
How does this not end this debate? At least for now...until it's viable.
Hydrogen power will hopefully be the answer. It’s as powerful as oil, with zero emission, in fuel cell applications built by plug, Fcel, bloom energy and ballard power. Bloom and fuel-cell are using hydrogen power plants to run small cities and Japan is making hydrogen fuel cell cars. Europe appears to be heading the hydrogen way as well.
I've got nothing against alternative energy sources, I just don't like them shoved down my throat, particularly when they are not efficient and raise the cost of energy. I like nuclear power. The greenies hate it with a passion. The buffoon Biden's shutting down the pipeline has done nothing but raise transportation prices, opened the door to more spills and lined Warren Buffet's pockets.
Wow, whole lotta stupid in this thread. You people (you know who you are) should be embarrassed.
I can jive with this. Although buffet is a badass. The pipeline is good with me as long as we aren’t risking Pollution to our under ground aquifers.
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