I did. There are a bunch of duma$$ fsu fans who thought he couldnt call plays
Tebow to the Ring of Honor...
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I did. There are a bunch of duma$$ fsu fans who thought he couldnt call plays
Numbers, does this mean that you've chipped in on Fishers statue for Ron Zook Field?
I would.
Sad, did you read the 2 articles I posted above? Those weren't researched and written by butt-hurt egomaniac fans. I'm sure not one and I have no hard feelings against the guy for leaving. And it has nothing to do with a claim of disloyalty. He made mistakes in the way he played favorites and handled discipline, plus recruiting super talent many with character issues, especially the last 2 years . It was eating him up inside and he knew there were some down years coming. It affected his health and he had to get out. I don't fault him for that. The players and those around the program said he left a lot of talent behind, but a total mess as far as lack of discipline and an entitlement mentality. He played favorites and caused huge division among teammates as a result. Urban himself even said that Muschamp inherited a broken program. Well, who broke it? There is no doubt Meyer is a great coach and gets cudos for what he did at Florida. But I would bet he would even admit he is a much better, more consistent, coach at Ohio St. than he was at Florida. This thread is on the Ring Of Honor and in spite of his accomplishments at UF, I still maintain that he is not deserving to be in such an elite group of GATORS. Only 6 years at the school and in spite of all the wins and titles, he left a broken program (his words) in his wake. That's not just my opinion and it doesn't appear to be overblown. That is a fact based on what former players have said, what played out with the suspensions and transfers that resulted in Muschamp's first year, what Meyer himself has admitted and what reporters who have researched the situation have concluded. I'll be very surprised if the powers that be ever put him in the ROH. Won't lose sleep one way or the other, but as a 45 year alumni, I wouldn't like it if they did.
Actually ocala, this thread was more about Tebow than about the RoH.
Tebow's last game as a Gator was the 2009 Sugar Bowl.
12-1 #5 Florida 51 - 24 Cincinnati #3 12-0
(in today's system, Cincy would have been a CFP team)
Tebow was 31 of 35, 88.6% for 482 yds, 3 TD's, 0 Ints.
Plus 51 Yds rushing, 1 TD. (533 Yds, 4 TD's)
So of course, he goes out setting All Time Sugar Bowl Records...
And then the Nefarious Felony League boned the T-Bow...
9-7 as a starter with a Playoff win for a team that went 4-14 with a 6-7 year Veteran QB.
Tim left Denver with both Bronco and NFL Passing Records.
St. John El' Dimway traded away their Top 2 WR's, then whined about Tim's completion %.
And he also rushed for 1,032 yards at 5 YPC and 8 more TD's.
If that had been in a single season it would have qualified for the Pro Bowl as a RB.
Before Tim was there I'd been a distant Bronco fan back during their 'Orange Crush' and 'The 3 Amigos' days.
Now, as long as El' Dimway is in their organization, I will only wish bad things on that franchise. They are now 'Horse-face and the Donkeys' to me....
Tebow's last game as a Gator was the 2009 Sugar Bowl.
12-1 #5 Florida 51 - 24 Cincinnati #3 12-0
(in today's system, Cincy would have been a CFP team)
Tebow was 31 of 35, 88.6% for 482 yds, 3 TD's, 0 Ints.
Plus 51 Yds rushing, 1 TD. (533 Yds, 4 TD's)
So of course, he goes out setting All Time Sugar Bowl Records...
And then the Nefarious Felony League boned the T-Bow...
9-7 as a starter with a Playoff win for a team that went 4-14 with a 6-7 year Veteran QB.
Tim left Denver with both Bronco and NFL Passing Records.
St. John El' Dimway traded away their Top 2 WR's, then whined about Tim's completion %.
And he also rushed for 1,032 yards at 5 YPC and 8 more TD's.
If that had been in a single season it would have qualified for the Pro Bowl as a RB.
Before Tim was there I'd been a distant Bronco fan back during their 'Orange Crush' and 'The 3 Amigos' days.
Now, as long as El' Dimway is in their organization, I will only wish bad things on that franchise. They are now 'Horse-face and the Donkeys' to me....
This statement right here is where we absolutely disagree. There is not one shred of objective evidence to support this. It is absolute conjecture to assert that Urban left because he was fearful of future “down years.” That has never been stated, nor is it true. It is a fiction written into the actual facts by people who can’t handle the fact that a guy would walk away from Florida or journalists looking to sensationalize a sexier version of the story....
The actual truth is that Urban burnt out...plain and simple...exactly as he has said. He never lied or misled anybody. The closest you can get to your assertion is that he may have felt that he could not mentally continue to operate at a level that would ensure the high level of success he established, and he realized that after the ‘09 SECCG loss. But he didn’t run away from Florida because of some fear of speculative “down years.”
In addition, Urban has never clarified the “broken” comment to mean what you (and those articles) speculate that it means, in fact, quite the opposite. The comment was actually a throw away comment in response to the 2010 loss to FSU. It had to do with the 2010 season which had a coaching charade (at Florida’s insistence) leading it, nothing more. Even the article you posted acknowledges that. Reading more into that comment is contrary to the facts, not consistent with them. And oh, by the way, Meyer himself has gone on record debunking that myth of “broken” players. See link below.
The one thing that sadgator will agree with is that Urban made a few mistakes in displine and player treatment. However, that isn’t the reason he quit at all. And if you picked apart any high profile program in the country, you’d find the same thing. The comments from players in the articles you cite are from, no surprise, disgruntled players who feel wronged because of this.
Urban didn’t lie, he didn’t fear anything, and he didn’t harm Florida. Those are myths, inconsistent with the facts. But myths make for sexier reading...and story telling....
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cb...erman-muschamp-blaming-inherited-players/amp/
Just not buying what Sad and a couple of others are saying about Meyer. He left a BROKEN program, not in the way of talent, but in the way of character, discipline and culture. Too many independent national reporters have dug into the situation at Florida in 2009-2011, interviewed players and coaches and concluded that Meyer left a broken program. And if you look at the 2010 recruiting class that was rated #1 in the 247 composite, look how many of those guys left or were booted after Muschamp took over and was charged with cleaning up the program. Not Ring of Honor material in my book.
http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-fo...-violation-recruiting-drugs-program-will-musc
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...ree-misdemeanor-charge-misdemeanor-possession
https://www.thesportster.com/college-football/top-15-things-urban-meyer-wants-you-to-forget/
http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-fo...-violation-recruiting-drugs-program-will-musc
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...ree-misdemeanor-charge-misdemeanor-possession
https://www.thesportster.com/college-football/top-15-things-urban-meyer-wants-you-to-forget/
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That bottom article...had to be the lamest pansy ass article I've ever read.
Whoaa...Meyer left BGSU for bigger money.
Ohhhaaaha an assistant recruited a player and accepted a job in the NFL
Booohooooaaahoo a cheating player was edited out of a highlight video.
Whinnnnneeeee he quit recruiting a player non worthy of receiving a scholarship to OSU
Ohhhhhhnoooo he recruited depth at the QB position, how dare he do such to Jevan Snead
Holysmolley a player who he hadn't coached in years committed murder
as if it's Urban's fault Aaron pulled the trigger.https://www.thesportster.com/college-football/top-15-things-urban-meyer-wants-you-to-forget/
Ohhhaaaha and ohh let's not forget.
He participated in a prank call.
He participated in a prank call.
What about the 1st 2 articles? Ignoring the incriminating evidence in those to poke fun of an article that you can ridicule. I thought the University of Florida was better than that. We always criticized Bobby Bowden and his relaxing of discipline and selective punishments, running a program of "Criminoles". And yet when our guy did it, it's fine because we won 2 national titles. The height of hypocrisy. Again, I thought Gators were better than that.
Rumor's abound: A HS daughter slipping out the window late at night, and a wandering wife that was drifting away, can give you a heart attack,,, or at least a nervous break-down....
But instead, it was blamed on to much pressure from Gator fans....
There is a middle ground here somewhere.
As I said, I don't hate him, but I also wouldn't vote yes to putting him in the RoH.
If they ever start a ring of winning, then I vote him in for that....
Yeah, Insta, I'm done posting on this thread. People are going to believe what they want to believe and opinions on Urban Meyer run the gamut. He's a great recruiter and a great coach. But not deserving of being listed among the University of Florida's best of the best in my view. I've stated my case a couple of times and posted researched articles to back up what I said. Nothing else I can do. Tim Tebow, the original subject of this deal, is an all time Gator great and an all time great human being. He's probably the greatest representative Gator Nation has ever had, not only for his play, but for his leadership, integrity and character. He deserves any and all accolades that come his way. Nothing negative can be said about the other men in the ROH either. I'd like it to stay that way.
Ask Tim Tebow if he likes Meyer and thinks he should be in the UF RoH or not?
Can we wait until Meyer is going into the RoH to spend this much time on him, instead of on the Gator that IS going into the RoH....
Moving right along...
It seems Tebow’s personal and professional life are both going great, and perhaps he’ll end up in the Major Leagues before the season is over. That could affect his SEC Network broadcasting career, but an MLB opportunity would be too much to pass up.
Tim Tebow usually keeps any kind of private info close to vest, but confirms to ESPN's Pedro Gomez that he is dating Demi-Leigh Nel-Peters, the 2017 Miss Universe.
After rumors have been swirling about former Florida QB Tim Tebow’s current dating life, he has confirmed it to a reporter.
In recent weeks, Tebow has been spotted with 2017 Miss Universe winner Demi-Leigh Nel-Peters.
Now, Tebow has confirmed that he is dating Nel-Peters, who is from South Africa and has 1.1 million Instagram followers: (and so the congregation takes an instant numbers boost)
https://search.aol.com/aol/image?p=...niverse-Pageant--23-662x1009.jpg&action=click
Moving right along...
It seems Tebow’s personal and professional life are both going great, and perhaps he’ll end up in the Major Leagues before the season is over. That could affect his SEC Network broadcasting career, but an MLB opportunity would be too much to pass up.
Tim Tebow usually keeps any kind of private info close to vest, but confirms to ESPN's Pedro Gomez that he is dating Demi-Leigh Nel-Peters, the 2017 Miss Universe.
After rumors have been swirling about former Florida QB Tim Tebow’s current dating life, he has confirmed it to a reporter.
In recent weeks, Tebow has been spotted with 2017 Miss Universe winner Demi-Leigh Nel-Peters.
Now, Tebow has confirmed that he is dating Nel-Peters, who is from South Africa and has 1.1 million Instagram followers: (and so the congregation takes an instant numbers boost)
https://search.aol.com/aol/image?p=...niverse-Pageant--23-662x1009.jpg&action=click
The only reason i say no is because i saw the same stuff posted about Jimbo this yr and it just wasnt true. Meyer lost tebow and his team wasnt as good becuz Cam had done something stupid so he left. If Cam is your QB for the next 3 yrs, the Gators win at least 1 more national titles, probably 2.
Last yr we had Francois go down but we had Deandre Johnson get kicked from the team the previous yr and 5 star Malik Henry got booted this past yr.... So we had to start Blackman. It all fell apart. Winning heals all, Qab's win, Meyer was burn t on recruiti g and working so hard that when it all fell apart he questioned if it was worth it. You think the Miami and Fsu teams that won didnt have bad dudes on the team.... It didnt matter tho becuz they won.
Can we wait until Meyer is going into the RoH to spend this much time on him, instead of on the Gator that IS going into the RoH....
Moving right along...
It seems Tebow’s personal and professional life are both going great, and perhaps he’ll end up in the Major Leagues before the season is over. That could affect his SEC Network broadcasting career, but an MLB opportunity would be too much to pass up.
Tim Tebow usually keeps any kind of private info close to vest, but confirms to ESPN's Pedro Gomez that he is dating Demi-Leigh Nel-Peters, the 2017 Miss Universe.
After rumors have been swirling about former Florida QB Tim Tebow’s current dating life, he has confirmed it to a reporter.
In recent weeks, Tebow has been spotted with 2017 Miss Universe winner Demi-Leigh Nel-Peters.
Now, Tebow has confirmed that he is dating Nel-Peters, who is from South Africa and has 1.1 million Instagram followers: (and so the congregation takes an instant numbers boost)
https://search.aol.com/aol/image?p=Demi-Leigh+Nel-Peters,+the+2017+Miss+Universe.&s_it=img-ans&v_t=loki-tb-sb&fr=loki-tb-sb&imgurl=http://www.gotceleb.com/wp-content/uploads/photos/demi-leigh/nel-peters-2017-miss-universe-pageant-in-las-vegas/Demi-Leigh-Nel-Peters:-2017-Miss-Universe-Pageant--23-662x1009.jpg#id=4&iurl=http://www.gotceleb.com/wp-content/uploads/photos/demi-leigh/nel-peters-2017-miss-universe-pageant-in-las-vegas/Demi-Leigh-Nel-Peters:-2017-Miss-Universe-Pageant--23-662x1009.jpg&action=click
Thank god he is finally getting some
I doubt it, but maybe, never know.
Unlike most of us, he could have had all he could stand a long time ago, IF that was what he thought was most important in life.
I suspect that Tim is doing less than you and I would be going for...
-- While they try to really get to know each other. Dating is not engaged, nor married. We were 100% committed and engaged, but couldn't wait until the vows were said and done,
-- but then we've also never gone elsewhere since then either. Tim has waited this long, so I'm betting that he holds off until the vows are said and done. He also has a lot more invested in that line of action than most.
I doubt it, but maybe, never know.
Unlike most of us, he could have had all he could stand a long time ago, IF that was what he thought was most important in life.
I suspect that Tim is doing less than you and I would be going for...
We were 100% committed and engaged, but couldn't wait until the vows were said and done,
Tim has waited this long, so I'm betting that he holds off until the vows are said and done. He also has a lot more invested in that line of action than most.
This whole post is weird and awkward.
Never need to read his posts, because they are always going to be,,, what they are, and what he will always be. This asswipe stalker arrives to spread his usual crap, and to be the lonely despised drunk loser that he is...
There once was a goater named dunny,
who was always trying to be funny.
But with his head up his butt,
and a load of beer in his gutt,
when it came to the girls he got nunny...
ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz
There once was a goater named dunny,
who was always trying to be funny.
But with his head up his butt,
and a load of beer in his gutt,
when it came to the girls he got nunny...
ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz
Never need to read his posts, because they are always going to be,,, what they are, and what he will always be. This asswipe stalker arrives to spread his usual crap, and to be the lonely despised drunk loser that he is...
There once was a goater named dunny,
who was always trying to be funny.
But with his head up his butt,
and a load of beer in his gutt,
when it came to the girls he got nunny...
ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz
Not my fault you're a creep.
Never need to read his posts, because they are always going to be,,, what they are, and what he will always be. This asswipe stalker arrives to spread his usual crap, and to be the lonely despised drunk loser that he is...
There once was a goater named dunny,
who was always trying to be funny.
But with his head up his butt,
and a load of beer in his gutt,
when it came to the girls he got nunny...
ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz
There once was a goater named dunny,
who was always trying to be funny.
But with his head up his butt,
and a load of beer in his gutt,
when it came to the girls he got nunny...
ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz
Never need to read his posts, because they are always going to be,,, what they are, and what he will always be. This asswipe stalker arrives to spread his usual crap, and to be the lonely despised drunk loser that he is...
There once was a goater named dunny,
who was always trying to be funny.
But with his head up his butt,
and a load of beer in his gutt,
when it came to the girls he got nunny...
ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz
You.
Are.
A.
Creep.
Never need to read his posts, because they are always going to be,,, what they are, and what he will always be. This asswipe stalker arrives to spread his usual crap, and to be the lonely despised drunk loser that he is...
There once was a goater named dunny,
who was always trying to be funny.
But with his head up his butt,
and a load of beer in his gutt,
when it came to the girls he got nunny...
ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz
There once was a goater named dunny,
who was always trying to be funny.
But with his head up his butt,
and a load of beer in his gutt,
when it came to the girls he got nunny...
ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz
I'm not promoting UM to the ROH.
Was just pointing the writer who wrote that article was really reaching for anything important. Especially the prank call part.
But while we are on the subject somebody could commit blasphemy and write silly mishaps during the SOS years. He didn't run a team of saints. Luckily he didn't have any murders on his team but some of his old signees saw time in the slammer such as Reche Caldwell...Jabar Gaffney still sounds as immature today as he did back in the day. Fights, parties, drinking, thefts, drug use. It's happened under every UF coach in my lifetime as well as to Miami and FSU.
Yeah we ridiculed Bobby Bowden and the Criminoles but Saint Spurrier wasn't leading a crowd of choir boys...nor was Zook, Urb, Champ, Mac...Jimbo...Butch, Coker, Shannon, and now Richt. It was all in fun poking at St. Bobby and his band of Criminoles. Although through glass hoises.
Never need to read his posts, because they are always going to be,,, what they are, and what he will always be. This asswipe stalker arrives to spread his usual crap, and to be the lonely despised drunk loser that he is...
There once was a goater named dunny,
who was always trying to be funny.
But with his head up his butt,
and a load of beer in his gutt,
when it came to the girls he got nunny...
ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz
"No girl ever tells me no, including my "wife." I'm super awesome, just like Tim Tebow. Now will all you little boys start circle jerking again?"
Yeah.
You're really normal.
Not creepy at all bruh.
Never need to read his posts, because they are always going to be,,, what they are, and what he will always be. This asswipe stalker arrives to spread his usual crap, and to be the lonely despised drunk loser that he is...
There once was a goater named dunny,
who was always trying to be funny.
But with his head up his butt,
and a load of beer in his gutt,
when it came to the girls he got nunny...
ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz
There once was a goater named dunny,
who was always trying to be funny.
But with his head up his butt,
and a load of beer in his gutt,
when it came to the girls he got nunny...
ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz
Bowden understood that rehabilitation was better than punishment. He booted players, hell he booted randy moss, but he only did it if they crossed a red line
Blobby Bowdown had no red line with good players, he had 'Polish Rules' instead.
He NEVER 'cut off his nose, just to spite his face' where discipline was concerned, and he said so publicly.
Those 'good Chris-shan Boyz' only got booted if the Admin felt so pressured that they had to act, and not one second before.
Blobby Bowdown had no red line with good players, he had 'Polish Rules' instead.
He NEVER 'cut off his nose, just to spite his face' where discipline was concerned, and he said so publicly.
Those 'good Chris-shan Boyz' only got booted if the Admin felt so pressured that they had to act, and not one second before.
Randy Moss
I understand the jealousy from Gator fans towards Bowden.
Players couldnt play if they got a felony
Was on fire before Blobby grabbed him up.
The Neutered Lame had already taken heat from Randy and dumped him.
From Wiki -- Notre Dame subsequently denied his enrollment application, but this did not stop another high-profile college football program from giving him a chance. Notre Dame officials suggested he attend Florida State due to the reputation of its coach, Bobby Bowden, for handling troubled players.[17] (handling criminoles with a blind eye they mean)
Nobody else would touch him, so Blobby grabbed him up, but it didn't take Randy long to set the talleycrappy criminoles on fire too. Blobby would have kept him, it was the Admin that forced him to dump Randy.
Moss had tested positive for marijuana, thus violating his probation, and was dismissed from Florida State (not cut by Blobby). He served an additional 60 days in jail for the probation violation.[17]
RM then had to drop down to Marshall, where I think they kept him in handcuffs until he left for the NFL....
The Neutered Lame had already taken heat from Randy and dumped him.
From Wiki -- Notre Dame subsequently denied his enrollment application, but this did not stop another high-profile college football program from giving him a chance. Notre Dame officials suggested he attend Florida State due to the reputation of its coach, Bobby Bowden, for handling troubled players.[17] (handling criminoles with a blind eye they mean)
Nobody else would touch him, so Blobby grabbed him up, but it didn't take Randy long to set the talleycrappy criminoles on fire too. Blobby would have kept him, it was the Admin that forced him to dump Randy.
Moss had tested positive for marijuana, thus violating his probation, and was dismissed from Florida State (not cut by Blobby). He served an additional 60 days in jail for the probation violation.[17]
RM then had to drop down to Marshall, where I think they kept him in handcuffs until he left for the NFL....
Lol yeah, sure. Because Tebow isn't biased at all.
Meyer treated him like a God.
I imagine he thinks he the tits (if Tebowmlike Tits)
I remember LV Coles got booted after the Dillard's fiasco. Warrick I believe it was his first offense and he was suspended for a few games. Pretty much cost himself any Heisman hope that year.
It is an interesting and valid point though. Folks love to hate on Meyer for his player favoritism, but then they love Tebow more than any other gator...who was like the poster child of Meyer’s favoritism.
And Tebow loves Meyer...
It is uber complex...
He did get the 'Heistman' Award though, didn't he?
I seem to remember wearing a T-Shirt to the FSUcks game with that on it...
He did get the 'Heistman' Award though, didn't he?
I seem to remember wearing a T-Shirt to the FSUcks game with that on it...
LMAO thats too good
I found this article 'enlightening' on several points and levels.
Asked if he knew that this type of purchase was wrong, Warrick told investigators, ''Anybody would know that,'' the police affidavit said. On Monday, Warrick admitted that to the police that Myrtil had conducted similar transactions for him on "one or two" occasions.
~ He admitted to multiple similar thefts at Dillards, but he only got charged for the one that he got arrested for.
In 1998, Warrick was charged with disorderly conduct and resisting arrest, both misdemeanors, for a confrontation in the parking lot of a Tampa fast-food restaurant.
However, AD Dave Hart claimed that "Warrick has been a good citizen here prior to this (Dillards)." But since Coles had other prior problems, he was (scapegoated, blamed, and) kicked off the team. Coles was not a Heisman candidate btw...
Earlier in the week, neither player seemed too concerned with the investigation and both acknowledged cooperating with the police. (my-my-my, imagine that...)
''It's not like we grabbed clothes (crabs) and ran out,'' Coles said Tuesday. ''It's not like that at all. (you mean not like Shameous Jameous???)
Warrick also did not appear to anticipate the charges. ''It's not like I killed the President,'' he said Tuesday. (good ole TPD)
See for yourself here:
https://www.nytimes.com/1999/10/08/...e-s-warrick-is-suspended-after-an-arrest.html
(now i gotta go look in my bottom drawer to see if I still have that 'classic' HEISTMAN T)
Asked if he knew that this type of purchase was wrong, Warrick told investigators, ''Anybody would know that,'' the police affidavit said. On Monday, Warrick admitted that to the police that Myrtil had conducted similar transactions for him on "one or two" occasions.
~ He admitted to multiple similar thefts at Dillards, but he only got charged for the one that he got arrested for.
In 1998, Warrick was charged with disorderly conduct and resisting arrest, both misdemeanors, for a confrontation in the parking lot of a Tampa fast-food restaurant.
However, AD Dave Hart claimed that "Warrick has been a good citizen here prior to this (Dillards)." But since Coles had other prior problems, he was (scapegoated, blamed, and) kicked off the team. Coles was not a Heisman candidate btw...
Earlier in the week, neither player seemed too concerned with the investigation and both acknowledged cooperating with the police. (my-my-my, imagine that...)
''It's not like we grabbed clothes (crabs) and ran out,'' Coles said Tuesday. ''It's not like that at all. (you mean not like Shameous Jameous???)
Warrick also did not appear to anticipate the charges. ''It's not like I killed the President,'' he said Tuesday. (good ole TPD)
See for yourself here:
https://www.nytimes.com/1999/10/08/...e-s-warrick-is-suspended-after-an-arrest.html
(now i gotta go look in my bottom drawer to see if I still have that 'classic' HEISTMAN T)
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