I am correct, (for more than once).
And that may be your first post with your head out of that warm dark place where you usually keep it...
So much for Willie Taggart
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And that may be your first post with your head out of that warm dark place where you usually keep it...
FSU doesn’t have a lot of talent...unless you’re just going by recruiting stars. Their last 2-3 classes have had a lot of busts. Jimbo was 5-6 with the same team last year before he left. Their oline might be the worst in college football, they have no linebackers at all, and their dline is depleted too. There’s a reason Jimbo was tryna get out of dodge, he knew what he had, or didn’t have coming back. His days on top of the state were numbered.
There are no valid excuses for looking as bad as they looked last night.
I realize that this was scheduled years ago, but playing a ranked, blue chip, program for the first game with a new, mostly untested staff, was probably not a great idea. They obviously have a few kinks to work out.
I would prefer to take our place back at the top of the state because we are ass kickers, not because F$U and Miami are hot trash.
Just sayin
Just sayin
But if FSU and Miami insist on being hot trash while we are ass kickers, I won't complain.
Felt similar about Mac and Michigan last year. Tough way to open when the microscope is on you. However, Mac was in year 3 and had no excuse at all. At least Willie can cite to transition. But it is still not a good way to start...kinda feel bad for you guys...except for BucaNole:...
To be fair, he was baited with the question and didn't disagree with it. The fact ESPiN is titling their article as a "quote" is pretty $hitty.
Reminds me of...
Even Herbie called VT out on it during the game. But no amount of malingering makes up for 21 points. If it was a close game, it would be different.
Taggart has to anticipate how the press is going to skew his answers. Looks like he is still learning on the job both on the field and off.
Taggart has to anticipate how the press is going to skew his answers. Looks like he is still learning on the job both on the field and off.
Best use of the term “malingering” sadgator has ever seen.
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FSU has excellent talent at DL, DB, RB, TE & WR. Not so much at QB, OL, LB, K & Punter. Sam Howell cannot get here soon enough. Francois is awful.
Call for his head? I'm calling for an EXTENSION.
Even if I was on that path, there is a large amount of room between saying someone isn't a supercoach and calling for their firing.
Nobody used the word CAN'T, so we evidently all think FSU can win 6+ games. But the narrative from Noles has gone from "dark horse national title contender" to "confident we can qualify for a bowl game", and that is a LARGE shift.
Not sure where that was coming from...any WC poll I saw this off season had FSU as a 9-3/8-4 team with some koolaid drinkers at 10-2. I think most of the excitement stemmed from the cultural infusion Willie spearheaded. Literally every.single.person I've talked to has said, "I love Taggart and everything he's done so far. I just hope he can win some games!" [paraphrased]
Very few FSU fans I know said it was a great hire. Mediocre at best but it was based on extenuating Jumbo circumstances. Either he improves dramatically or he will be gone.
Interesting. The Noles in here almost to a man claimed it was a great hire perfect for FSU, that Taggart was a recruiting machine and his ability to turn around programs would lead FSU to at least a 10 win year. When you claim a minimum of 10 wins, you consider yourself a dark horse national title contender, because it's not that much farther past 10 to a playoff berth.
All off-season on this board we heard from FSU fans on how great of a hire he was.
It will be disappointing if we don't win ~10 games. 9-3 plus a bowl win isn't asking too much IMO. The problem with dropping one out of the gate is that now Taggart is going to have to spring an upset or 2 over Miami, Notre Dame, or Clemson. Regardless of this year, Taggart is going to need a big year in 2019. The schedule sets up great with swapping @ND for Boise State in Jax and VT from the Coastal for UVA . Clemson will also lose a ton after this year. Got to produce quickly in this day and age .
Clemson will also sign a monster recruiting class. They are light years ahead of fsu.
Both on the roster and especially in coaching
Both on the roster and especially in coaching
Clemson will definitely recruit well, but next year might be a bit of a down year for them. They're going to lose a lot of talent - especially in the trenches.
So true...those guys are gone for the foreseeable future...and thank God! #gators
While i agree and i have been saying this for awhile that willie sucks on gameday. We did drop a td pass that gets caught 90% of the time, we also scored but didnt review it. Its one game, i dont think our o will always be that bad but i do expect us to fire willie within 4 yrsand our team be loaded
We’ve been erroneously blaming and arguing over our QB talent for the past 7 years...
Trust us...It is a frustrating place to be....
Especially when every one of them successfully moves on and the next one suddenly “sucks” too.
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We are misssing talent out of the most important positions. We have no talent on the o line, and linebacker....WR has talent its just young talent. I havent seen a good linebacker at fsu in yrs
Its Va tech...we should have won regardless. If Gavin doesnt drop an easy td and murray scores on an obvious td(taggart allows the review) we have 17 points in the first quarter va tech folds. Instead Gavin drops the ball and taggart rushes us to the line and we false start LOL ****ing horrible.
Jus trying to point out that it wasnt becuz blue chip va tech lol it was us, as usual
I agree with this in this particular incident. The challenge overall is that this almost never happens to really good coaches. It's the small things the elite coaches - they don't let it slide. And there's a thousand of those small things every week, and during the game.
That's where it's a bad sign for Willie imo. Certainly it's only one game and not a pattern but I'd keep my eye on it if I was a Nole.
Disagree with much of this post, but especially about Francois. He’s the only reason you were able to even move the ball the few times you did. He was making NFL caliber throws including the perfect one your receiver dropped for a TD. Very few QB’s are gonna be great getting sacked 6 times and having no run game. The interceptions at the end are whatever...just trying to make a play with the game already out of hand.
That review thing is overrated btw. The refs have until the next snap to call a review. So even after the false start the refs could have reveiwed it if they wanted to, FSU hurrying up didn’t keep them from reviewing. With the way FSU’s oline was getting owned it actually probably made more sense to try and hurry up and get a snap off before they got set.
If Francois isn't going to use his legs - that's a good question. Blackman is a much more natural downfield passer than Francois.
We just have to make a few adjustments. Run some i formations and quick pass plays which we will.
N Illinois: we will crush them by 40
Louisville: we win by two TDs
Miami: W. It’s a rivalry so it’s close
Wake: L. Too high after the Miami win
Clemson: L. Just barely. We always play them tough
NC State: easy W. They have no talent.
Notre Dame: W. They barely beat Vandy.
Boston College: W. It’s Boston College. They stink.
Florida: W. I would say close but our talent level is light years ahead of you guys and by then we will be cranking with the i formations and quick passes.
Only four losses on the season is a big improvement from last year.
N Illinois: we will crush them by 40
Louisville: we win by two TDs
Miami: W. It’s a rivalry so it’s close
Wake: L. Too high after the Miami win
Clemson: L. Just barely. We always play them tough
NC State: easy W. They have no talent.
Notre Dame: W. They barely beat Vandy.
Boston College: W. It’s Boston College. They stink.
Florida: W. I would say close but our talent level is light years ahead of you guys and by then we will be cranking with the i formations and quick passes.
Only four losses on the season is a big improvement from last year.
Please come back down to planet Earth!
Reality:
Va Tech: L
Samford: W; barely
Syracuse: L, embarrassing blow out
N. Illinois: W, but not by 40. Your offense won’t sniff 40 this season.
Louisville: L
Miami: L
Wake: W, but close game
Clemson: L
NC State: Toss up, NC State is 2-0, but they haven’t played anyone, so at this point it’s hard to say how they compare to FSU
Notre Dame: L
BC: Toss up; BC is 3-0, but it’s still BC
Florida: L
At best, dumpster FSU will go 5-7 this season, but 4-8 isn’t a stretch. This season will be the beginning of the end for Taggart. If FSU could fire him after only 1 season they would but that never happens. I put the over/under on Taggart’s tenure at FSU at 2.5 years.
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