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So, how many people predicted we could go 2-2 to close out the year?

Understand this; it's not Mac that I dislike per se. It's the scheme. He's not much of a recruiter and he's never going to recruit enough talent to beat Bama or fsu with the current playbook. If he doesn't recruit a dual threat QB (and it can definitely be a pass first guy like Chad Kelly) and get with the modern age of football, then the future on offense is VERY limited.
For a guy who doesn't excel at recruiting, the talent pool for pro style QBs is way too shallow for Mac. There just aren't any HIgh Schools running pro style anymore

This scheme is meant for a team with a defense they scores and holds its opponents to very few points and has elite special teams. Yhis is not Baldwin's CSU offense and is not meant to outscore teams.
 
Why will we lose to Michigan?

Michigan loses way too much. UF wins this one.

I also think UF's recruiting is doing pretty well and appears to be positioned well for a good close.

LDR is probably the starter unless one of the redshirt Frosh are ready to take over. UF is trying hard for a graduate transfer to join the fray and that could be a nice bridge if the aforementioned are not the answer.

UF is certainly trying to gain some traction and this next season will really see if Mac's system is on the right track. The schedule, imo, sets up nicely with the toughest game being at home at the end of the year (FSU). The rest of the schedule looks winnable. I predict another 9/10 win season and SECe crown.
 
This scheme is meant for a team with a defense they scores and holds its opponents to very few points and has elite special teams. Yhis is not Baldwin's CSU offense and is not meant to outscore teams.


then why would he be hired
 
Michigan loses way too much. UF wins this one.

I also think UF's recruiting is doing pretty well and appears to be positioned well for a good close.

LDR is probably the starter unless one of the redshirt Frosh are ready to take over. UF is trying hard for a graduate transfer to join the fray and that could be a nice bridge if the aforementioned are not the answer.

UF is certainly trying to gain some traction and this next season will really see if Mac's system is on the right track. The schedule, imo, sets up nicely with the toughest game being at home at the end of the year (FSU). The rest of the schedule looks winnable. I predict another 9/10 win season and SECe crown.

So is Mac your uncle or cousin?
 
And before you bring up Grier, it's been widely reported that del rio would have started over him last year if eligible

Meh. Del Rio, like Jeff Driskel was another QB who looked great in practice but panicked when the ball is teed up. Del Rio, like Driskel doesn't have the head for the game, held the ball too long and refused to throw it away to avoid a sack. While Appleby wasn't a top tier QB, he showed competency when he wasn't running for his life. Part of that problem was the offensive line and lack of running backs knowing who to chip on pass plays. I saw Scarlett and Goolsby whiff or make a wrong read several times a game during critical situations. Part of that is personnel and part is on the OC.

No offensive scheme will work when it is not executed properly. Just imagine Alabama's scheme if run without 5 star offensive linemen and top tiered running backs. Clemson took Urban's spread offense to the woodshed, and Clemson's defense has been run through, over, and around all season by teams that aren't exactly offensive juggernauts.

If the defense can just hold serve next season, and I think they can, if either Trask or Franks can turn the switch on, opinions about the style of offense will change, and UF will be in the hunt for an SEC title next year. All the hoopla about Kirby Smart's recruiting will be nothing more than the same as Butch Jones bunch. lol No sunshine pumping here, but the quarterback position will determine the fate of next year's season.
 
Michigan loses way too much. UF wins this one.

I also think UF's recruiting is doing pretty well and appears to be positioned well for a good close.

LDR is probably the starter unless one of the redshirt Frosh are ready to take over. UF is trying hard for a graduate transfer to join the fray and that could be a nice bridge if the aforementioned are not the answer.

UF is certainly trying to gain some traction and this next season will really see if Mac's system is on the right track. The schedule, imo, sets up nicely with the toughest game being at home at the end of the year (FSU). The rest of the schedule looks winnable. I predict another 9/10 win season and SECe crown.

If Mac rolls out with LDR he ahould be fired on the spot. This is year THREE, a QB guru should have recruited and developed a QB by now. If we are in three using a transfer as a band-aid then Mac isn't who he claimed he was. Start Franks or Trask and live with it. This band-aid and more time bullshit needs to stop. Be the next great coach at UF or go back to the Mountain West. And I'll add if we get another beat down by FSU I think it is fair to say 'safe' and Mac will no longer be used in the same sentence
 
If Mac rolls out with LDR he ahould be fired on the spot. This is year THREE, a QB guru should have recruited and developed a QB by now. If we are in three using a transfer as a band-aid then Mac isn't who he claimed he was. Start Franks or Trask and live with it. This band-aid and more time bullshit needs to stop. Be the next great coach at UF or go back to the Mountain West. And I'll add if we get another beat down by FSU I think it is fair to say 'safe' and Mac will no longer be used in the same sentence

I think if Mac rolls out LDR to open with Michigan, its because he has decided he really doesn't want to coach anymore. LMAO. We can definitely agree here. He has the entire spring and summer to get those other two ready. I've seen enough of LDR.
 
I think if Mac rolls out LDR to open with Michigan, its because he has decided he really doesn't want to coach anymore. LMAO. We can definitely agree here. He has the entire spring and summer to get those other two ready. I've seen enough of LDR.

I think Malik Zaire will be our starting QB next year. I think Toney is a QB and we add a mobile passer kike Blackman to our class. I think we incorporate zone read into our offense and it takes off
 
Zaire? Why is that a thing? The dude isn't good. And if we bring him in that's a terrible sign for the future. He'll leave after one year and then we're back to square one. Bringing him in would just be stupid.
 
Zaire? Why is that a thing? The dude isn't good. And if we bring him in that's a terrible sign for the future. He'll leave after one year and then we're back to square one. Bringing him in would just be stupid.

The fact that he hasn't signed anywhere yet tells me he is waiting for the SEC to lift our hrad transfer restricition this month. I am not saying its smart, just saying it could happen. Nothing has been done to make me think Mac has any faith in Trask or Franks
 
IF they start Franks, after he throws enough Ints, Trask will be the new starter. And IF that happens, I hope it happens BEFORE they play tennis-sea.... :oops:

I'd rather they NOT do it that way, but from what I've seen so far on the 'giving' of the starting QB job to their 'fair-haired' boy, I'm not so sure that they will even give Trask an even (fair, equal reps) chance at winning the job. :( After all, they chitted him on reps in the Spring game last year... :mad:

I have already said that if they bring in yet another retread QB, then they are on the way out the door, however long it takes for them to be fired. IF they can get a quality QB out of one of these three (Franks-Trask-Allen) then they are well on their way to a long tenure imoho. We'll see how it goes, starting with NSD.
(if they bring in ND backup Zaire, I may have to walk Univ Ave with a 'protest' sign for a week) :rolleyes:
 
IF they start Franks, after he throws enough Ints, Trask will be the new starter. And IF that happens, I hope it happens BEFORE they play tennis-sea.... :oops:

I'd rather they NOT do it that way, but from what I've seen so far on the 'giving' of the starting QB job to their 'fair-haired' boy, I'm not so sure that they will even give Trask an even (fair, equal reps) chance at winning the job. :( After all, they chitted him on reps in the Spring game last year... :mad:

I have already said that if they bring in yet another retread QB, then they are on the way out the door, however long it takes for them to be fired. IF they can get a quality QB out of one of these three (Franks-Trask-Allen) then they are well on their way to a long tenure imoho. We'll see how it goes, starting with NSD.
(if they bring in ND backup Zaire, I may have to walk Univ Ave with a 'protest' sign for a week) :rolleyes:

So I am confused, you do or do not trust Mc-Nuss evaluation of talent????
 
So I am confused, you do or do not trust Mc-Nuss evaluation of talent????

You always seem corn-fused to me dude... :confused: ---- :D

And your memory suffers greatly it seems. o_O
What have I previously stated as my ONE caveat' on the job that Mc-Nuss has done so far? :oops:

Gotta go, later dudes, so carry on between yourselves until I eventually get back... :cool:
 
Michi, insta and I watching the Dolphins game today:

Danny: it's tough when you're playing a good team like the Steelers and you have to rely upon a backup QB.


Michi: this staff can't get anything fixed.

Danny: I mean...they did get into the playoffs.

Michi: yeah because getting in as a Wild Card means anything? Look at our schedule. The Browns, Jets, Chargers, Bills? Until we win the division, we suck, and this staff can't get us there.

Danny: dude, relax. You had to know they would struggle without Tannehill. Not to mention its 16 degrees outside.

Michi: not the point. Who cares!?!?! We should have a BETTER QB!!!!! Our coach can't get them better prepared.

Insta: you can keep your Cryin' Granny-Fell and Fat Mooron. Give me T.J. Yates! He's the real deal (too bad this staff is too stupid to see that.)
 
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I don't think Del rio doesn't get it mentally and he's certainly nothing like driskel in that way, he just doesn't have the physical tools and his body started falling apart with it...
 
Zaire? Why is that a thing? The dude isn't good. And if we bring him in that's a terrible sign for the future. He'll leave after one year and then we're back to square one. Bringing him in would just be stupid.
Unless we have room for him. Which if we do, brings up a different set of questions. But if we do have room, the more competition the better imo.
 
If Mac rolls out with LDR he ahould be fired on the spot. This is year THREE, a QB guru should have recruited and developed a QB by now. If we are in three using a transfer as a band-aid then Mac isn't who he claimed he was. Start Franks or Trask and live with it. This band-aid and more time bullshit needs to stop. Be the next great coach at UF or go back to the Mountain West. And I'll add if we get another beat down by FSU I think it is fair to say 'safe' and Mac will no longer be used in the same sentence
Macs first year: Grier was the starter and doing pretty well until he go busted. Treon was the only other viable option at that time to go with. Year two he had Treon, who then switched positions and ultimately bailed. That left two true freshman and a couple transfers to duke it out. Smartly, he went with the upperclassmen in hopes they could hold down the first for a year or two. LDR starting the season is not that bad of an idea if the redshirts are still not ready. Throwing them against a seasoned Michigan is limiting the playbook quite a bit, imo, unless one or both truly tear it up in the off season/Spring game. I think it is a 50/50 possibility LDR vs one of the two RS frosh start against Michigan. With that being said, I would not be surprised to see Mac play the lead freshman at some point against Michigan or certainly in game two of the regular season. Good news is Michigan is losing a ton from this year's team so I do not see them being nearly as good as they have been the past two seasons.
 
Glad you went 2-2 in the last 2 games. See you next later this year for another epic showdown.

Iowa stinks.

You have no solid QB for next year.

Your recruiting is tepid at best.

You are so far behind most teams you play annually in recruiting, it will take 2-3 years to catch up if even possible.

You're losing a lot to early NFL entries that will have a huge impact in 2017..

You will lose to Michigan in the season opener 2017.

And the beat goes on...

Typical NoleThink. Stars equals victories.

I OTOH, have always believed it was the most points that determined the victor.
 
Macs first year: Grier was the starter and doing pretty well until he go busted. Treon was the only other viable option at that time to go with. Year two he had Treon, who then switched positions and ultimately bailed. That left two true freshman and a couple transfers to duke it out. Smartly, he went with the upperclassmen in hopes they could hold down the first for a year or two. LDR starting the season is not that bad of an idea if the redshirts are still not ready. Throwing them against a seasoned Michigan is limiting the playbook quite a bit, imo, unless one or both truly tear it up in the off season/Spring game. I think it is a 50/50 possibility LDR vs one of the two RS frosh start against Michigan. With that being said, I would not be surprised to see Mac play the lead freshman at some point against Michigan or certainly in game two of the regular season. Good news is Michigan is losing a ton from this year's team so I do not see them being nearly as good as they have been the past two seasons.

If both the RS Freshmen are unready, that's on the coaches. They were both early enrollees, so by game 1 next year they will have been on the squad for 20 months. That is PLENTY of time to pick up the playbook. And while any kid can be a bust, it's really unlikely they will both be busts. So if neither of them is ready to go for Michigan, that's a problem.
 
Michigan loses way too much. UF wins this one.

I also think UF's recruiting is doing pretty well and appears to be positioned well for a good close.

LDR is probably the starter unless one of the redshirt Frosh are ready to take over. UF is trying hard for a graduate transfer to join the fray and that could be a nice bridge if the aforementioned are not the answer.

UF is certainly trying to gain some traction and this next season will really see if Mac's system is on the right track. The schedule, imo, sets up nicely with the toughest game being at home at the end of the year (FSU). The rest of the schedule looks winnable. I predict another 9/10 win season and SECe crown.

We have a tough home schedule, no doubt, but the road schedule is Kentucky, Missouri and South Carolina. Georgia and Michigan at neutral sites. If we hold home field, it could set up for a big year, if we get off our backsides and actually field functioning offense, defense and special teams units, all at the same time.
 
Macs first year: Grier was the starter and doing pretty well until he go busted. Treon was the only other viable option at that time to go with. Year two he had Treon, who then switched positions and ultimately bailed. That left two true freshman and a couple transfers to duke it out. Smartly, he went with the upperclassmen in hopes they could hold down the first for a year or two. LDR starting the season is not that bad of an idea if the redshirts are still not ready. Throwing them against a seasoned Michigan is limiting the playbook quite a bit, imo, unless one or both truly tear it up in the off season/Spring game. I think it is a 50/50 possibility LDR vs one of the two RS frosh start against Michigan. With that being said, I would not be surprised to see Mac play the lead freshman at some point against Michigan or certainly in game two of the regular season. Good news is Michigan is losing a ton from this year's team so I do not see them being nearly as good as they have been the past two seasons.

Just telling you if he comes out with LDR he and the Gators are both in big trouble. We lose to Michigan with LDR as the starter and Mac might as well just step down. At some point we have to move forward.
 
LDR will probably start that Michigan game. These freshmen are all going to stink. We all know it. I'm holding out some hope for Allen, but he's not going to start as a true frosh. I just think there aren't many high school qbs that can come in and run an offense from the pocket. Primarily for that reason, I think it's stupid to run an offense that depends on finding one.
 
LDR will probably start that Michigan game. These freshmen are all going to stink. We all know it. I'm holding out some hope for Allen, but he's not going to start as a true frosh. I just think there aren't many high school qbs that can come in and run an offense from the pocket. Primarily for that reason, I think it's stupid to run an offense that depends on finding one.

Definitely some signs by the staff that they don't believe the next QB is on this roster. But its their job to decelop and evaluate, so its not like its on anyone but them
 
It's amazing how many QB's have started at Florida since Tebow graduated. And to me the only one who looked like he could play up to our high quality standards was Grier. And that's on the coaches - Muschamp & McElwain. There's no excuse for the University of Florida not having a top notch quarterback, but until we get one there is no chance of us being a Top 10 program. I have no idea if the 2 redshirt freshmen or Allen are that guy, but it sure looks like Del Rio isn't.
 
It's amazing how many QB's have started at Florida since Tebow graduated. And to me the only one who looked like he could play up to our high quality standards was Grier. And that's on the coaches - Muschamp & McElwain. There's no excuse for the University of Florida not having a top notch quarterback, but until we get one there is no chance of us being a Top 10 program. I have no idea if the 2 redshirt freshmen or Allen are that guy, but it sure looks like Del Rio isn't.

Grier was by far the most athletic QB since Tebow and that isn't coincidence. Pure, stay in the pocket guys are just not out there. You don't need an option QB but you need a QB who can use his legs. Of the top teams only Michigan is trying to use a stay in the pocket guy and most on this board believe he is terrible. No one in high school or college uses those systems anymore, so its hard to find them.

We need to modernize our offense and it may attract the more talented kids. Even the NFL is seeing more athletic QBs have success in Rodgers, Wilson, Dak, Cam, Marriota, etc.
 
Grier was by far the most athletic QB since Tebow and that isn't coincidence. Pure, stay in the pocket guys are just not out there. You don't need an option QB but you need a QB who can use his legs. Of the top teams only Michigan is trying to use a stay in the pocket guy and most on this board believe he is terrible. No one in high school or college uses those systems anymore, so its hard to find them.

We need to modernize our offense and it may attract the more talented kids. Even the NFL is seeing more athletic QBs have success in Rodgers, Wilson, Dak, Cam, Marriota, etc.

Grier was the most "athletic?"

Wtf are you talking about?
 
Well i am not including Treon because he wasn't a QB. You think Driskel was more athletic? Certainly not Brantley or LDR

Driskel was the number one QB in high school and got drafted based on pure athleticism alone, that's nonsense.

And did YOU just say that Treon Harris wasn't a QB?

LMFAO. From the guy that heralded him before he even signed with us, changed his avatar to Treon, thought he was better than Grier and got giddy when Treon initially played over him, and now, the all knowing Michi sits here and casually shrugs him off as "not a QB?"

Please remind us why we're supposed to listen to your football opinion again?
 
Driskel was the number one QB in high school and got drafted based on pure athleticism alone, that's nonsense.

And did YOU just say that Treon Harris wasn't a QB?

LMFAO. From the guy that heralded him before he even signed with us, changed his avatar to Treon, thought he was better than Grier and got giddy when Treon initially played over him, and now, the all knowing Michi sits here and casually shrugs him off as "not a QB?"

Please remind us why we're supposed to listen to your football opinion again?

Treon was not a QB lol He lined up in the position where a qb normally does but was NOT a QB. However, i do agree with u on driskel being more athletic than grier
 
Driskel was the most athletic. He might have been a better athlete than Tebow. He had an absolute cannon for an arm and not too many quarterbacks can house it from 70 yards out like he did against Vanderbilt. He was also a top-100 baseball player in high school. He was drafted by the Red Sox.

He sure was bad at quarterbacking though.
 
If both the RS Freshmen are unready, that's on the coaches. They were both early enrollees, so by game 1 next year they will have been on the squad for 20 months. That is PLENTY of time to pick up the playbook. And while any kid can be a bust, it's really unlikely they will both be busts. So if neither of them is ready to go for Michigan, that's a problem.

Yep.
 
But Grier was a good athlete. If you are going to consider "throwing a football so that a member of your own team can catch it" as an athletic skill, then he was probably as good a football athlete as Driskel and he was way better than anyone since Tebow.
 
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