#'s, I just want you to list all of the IN-DEPENDS that are currently exceeding what the top half of the programs in the SEC are doing.
Even In-Depends ND has had to somewhat join the Almost Competitive in order to try to keep up. And the ACC is so gormless that it has to suck up to, and be used by, the Neutered Lame...
ND's last NC in football was when the media-morons 'fake-news' could VOTE them one,,, 1988. Only with the fake news media propaganda's help, and the private school Catholic network's $$$, are they even still in the discussion anymore.
The AP voters keep pushing the Neutered Lame forward, but to no avail.
Just like ESPN has put then in their early Top 10 for 2021...
2020 - 10-2 vs their usual chump, 6 of 10 had losing records.
ACC-C CU 34 - 10 ND
NC UA 31 - 14 ND
2019 - 11-2 vs their usual chumps, 5 opponents with losing records.
They lost to UGly btw.
Camping Bowl ND 33 - 9 IoSt (7-6)
2018 - 12-1 vs their usual chumps, 6 opponents with losing records.
CU 30 - 3 ND
2017 10-3 vs teams with a pulse, only 2 with losing seasons.
At home vs UGly 20 - 19 ND
(TD Jesus was on vacation)
@ Mia 41 - 8 ND
@ Stan 38 - 20
But they did manage beat a 9-4 LSU 17 - 21 ND by 4 pts.
2016 - 4-8 Losers
>>> Last Football NC was GIVEN to them over 3 decades ago...
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As to Bama, they have been on a run recently, but not that long ago they were middle of the pack SEC.
2007 7-6
2006 6-7
2004 6-6
2003 4-9
2001 7-5
2000 3-8
1998 7-5
1997 4-7
And they, like any other team in the SEC
(it cycles), they can return to mediocre in just a season or two from now.
It's the SEC that owns college football, not the crimson turds...