Regarding the Vaccine

[instaGATOR]

That’s the incorrect answer for people over the age of 40 particular high risk. And then it has been clearly show that the benefit outweighs the risk.

Before, anyone that died and was even suspected of having Co-V, was listed as a death due to Co-V. (even if they died in a car wreck in some cases)

Now, anyone that dies after taking the vaccine is not considered to be a death from the vaccine. (even if they keeled over minutes after vaccine injection)

Standards for 'cause of death' are adjusted, depending on the political outcome that is desired....

Sorry, but I'm going with the 6,000+ that have died after being vaccinated, plus the 400,000+ that have experienced very bad side effects, but didn't actually die,,,,,, YET.

Thanking my lucky stars that I live in Florida and not in Californication or Blomo's NY....

 

[instaGATOR]

Damn skippy.

Dear GM, I too got that polio vaccine back in the 1950's, back when you could still trust what the government was doing and telling you, most of the time.
And in the 1960, I got a load of vaccines while in the military because I was going to be in Asia, the home of the Fung Flu among many other bad deals.

That was wayyy back then, not freakin' now.

I give you back what you said, I don't care if your dumbazz dies from taking the 'emergency use, long term UNKONWNS' KungFlu vaccines, cause one less criminole in the gene pool is just fine wid me....

 

[Uniformed_ReRe]

Dear GM, I too got that polio vaccine back in the 1950's, back when you could still trust what the government was doing and telling you, most of the time.
And in the 1960, I got a load of vaccines while in the military because I was going to be in Asia, the home of the Fung Flu among many other bad deals.

That was wayyy back then, not freakin' now.

I give you back what you said, I don't care if your dumbazz dies from taking the 'emergency use, long term UNKONWNS' KungFlu vaccines, cause one less criminole in the gene pool is just fine wid me....

Ironically, the 1950s and 1960s were probably the times when you should have had the least trust in the government. That’s when the CIA was aggressively experimenting on citizens without their consent and J. Edgar Hoover was using the FBI like his personal Mafia crew.

It only seemed like the government was trustworthy back then because you didn’t have cable news channels and websites creating drama and panic porn 24/7.

 

[instaGATOR]

Ironically, the 1950s and 1960s were probably the times when you should have had the least trust in the government. That’s when the CIA was aggressively experimenting on citizens without their consent and J. Edgar Hoover was using the FBI like his personal Mafia crew.

It only seemed like the government was trustworthy back then because you didn’t have cable news channels and websites creating drama and panic porn 24/7.

As bad as it might have been 'selectively' back then,,,, it's gotten to be much worse in the last 20 years 'generally and wide spread' imo....

 

[BamaFan1137]

I got the Pfizer, and I'm glad I did. When I was five I stood in line at an Armory and got stabbed in the arm by a grey haired ex Army nurse with hundreds of other kids for some new miracle vaccine to eradicate polio.
No one questioned the vaccine. Thank God my parents and millions of other parents followed what the government told them and the real fear we lived under was removed.

In primitive societies today there are still attacks on clinics where the polio vaccine is being administered. Unbelievable. And some of you Luddites don't want the COVID vaccine.
Don't get it. I don't care. You die, you die. Good for the gene pool.
Please remain in the shallow end of the pool. Your choice.

Question...and it's a real question, meaning it isn't loaded.

How long did it take to create the polio vaccine and how long was it tested before it was administered to the general public?

I will NEVER criticize anyone for getting the vaccine. Further, if this does turn out to have unforseen harmful effects on those who took it, I won't gloat, say I told you so or pretend to be ok with your misfortune. I will be devastated on your behalf.

I just don't get the vitriol directed at people who are taking a measured approach on the vaccine based on their risk factors. But it sounds like some people will be giddy if harm comes to me because I chose the measured approach.

I don't get it. It's disappointing.

 

[BillCutting4585]

Ironically, the 1950s and 1960s were probably the times when you should have had the least trust in the government. That’s when the CIA was aggressively experimenting on citizens without their consent and J. Edgar Hoover was using the FBI like his personal Mafia crew.

It only seemed like the government was trustworthy back then because you didn’t have cable news channels and websites creating drama and panic porn 24/7.

But the CIA are angels now?

 

[BamaFan1137]

Ironically, the 1950s and 1960s were probably the times when you should have had the least trust in the government. That’s when the CIA was aggressively experimenting on citizens without their consent and J. Edgar Hoover was using the FBI like his personal Mafia crew.

It only seemed like the government was trustworthy back then because you didn’t have cable news channels and websites creating drama and panic porn 24/7.

You have a lot of faith in the government. I do not...at all. We're talking about an organization who can lose billions every year using the same business model as companies who earn billions each year (delivering mail).

Government sucks by design. Everything they touch turns to shit. They are a model of inefficiency. They always will be. And of course they lie at every turn.

That goes for right or left lead governments FTR. They all suck at everything they do.

 

[BSC911]

I just read where 95% of all Covid deaths are now from unvaccinated people.

Darwin wins again.

 

[gator1776]

Dear GM, I too got that polio vaccine back in the 1950's, back when you could still trust what the government was doing and telling you, most of the time.
And in the 1960, I got a load of vaccines while in the military because I was going to be in Asia, the home of the Fung Flu among many other bad deals.

That was wayyy back then, not freakin' now.

I give you back what you said, I don't care if your dumbazz dies from taking the 'emergency use, long term UNKONWNS' KungFlu vaccines, cause one less criminole in the gene pool is just fine wid me....

There are 1000 people in Tuskegee Alabama that might take exception to the concept of being able to trust the government back in the 50s

 

[gator1776]

I just read where 95% of all Covid deaths are now from unvaccinated people.

Darwin wins again.

I mean there is clear evidence that getting vaccinated protect you significantly. But there’s also pretty clear epidemiological and statistical evidence that if you’re under the age of 35, the risk of adverse reactions to the vaccine, which are rare, are still greater than the risk of dying from Covid. We have to tell both sides of the story.

 

[instaGATOR]

There are 1000 people in Tuskegee Alabama that might take exception to the concept of being able to trust the government back in the 50s

I guess this was above your level of understanding. "As bad as it might have been 'selectively' back then,,,, it's gotten to be much worse in the last 20 years 'generally and wide spread' imo...."

Selectively.... There were also people that were fed massive doses of LSD by them, and they weren't minorities in Alabama.

Now days, they are willing to go after everyone 'generally and wide spread' imo....
THEY -- Like the ZPG types that produce vaccines and the need for them in Wu-Han type labs....
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Some of the ZPG advocates think that the world population should be greatly reduced first, then ZPG policies introduced to maintain the lower population levels. (makes me highly suspicious of government programs, like mandatory vaccination, among other government programs).

What they fail to address is that unlimited immigration (open borders) into ZPG zones destroys the chances of ZPG success. (US 0.68 Yearly)

Mexico, Central America, and much of Africa is Over 5.0%
Equatorial Guinea 4.17%
Ghana 2.33%
Equador 1.63%
Guatemala 1.50%
Peru 1.22%
Canada 1.12%
Argentina 1.05%

BTW - For the Darwin effect to work, you need to kill people BEFORE they reach reproductive age....

 

[G8trDad3]

I trust guys like you, because when they claim that something is BOGUS, they always provide links to solid information proving their own BOGUS claims....

Half of doctors have used HCQ to treat Co-V.

The latest Sermo survey, which was taken between April 6 and April 9, found that of the 1,337 physicians surveyed who have treated patients with coronavirus, 50 percent have used Hydroxychloroquine or Chloroquine, which is the second most behind Azithromycin or similar antibiotics (58 percent.)

It was a survey of 6,000 doctors worldwide, which found that more doctors who had treated coronavirus patients considered hydroxychloroquine an effective treatment than any other.

Just over a third of those surveyed worldwide had actually called hydroxychloroquine the safest, from a list of treatments-a number that dropped to under 25 percent among U.S. doctors.

The early use of HCQ (during 1st week after symptoms appear) gives patients the best chances of a quick recovery. (iG)

The press release announcing the survey also stated that "one-quarter of global physicians agree that healthcare workers should take hydroxychloroquine to prevent COVID-19 infections."

Half of Coronavirus Doctors Have used Hydroxychloroquine: Survey

The latest Sermo survey, which was taken between April 6 and April 9, found that of the 1,337 physicians surveyed who have treated patients with coronavirus, 50 percent have used Hydroxychloroquine or Chloroquine, which is the second most behind Azithromycin or similar antibiotics (58 percent.)

nationalinterest.org

This study has become outdated. It’s from April of 2020.
A more recent article:

Efficacy of chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine in COVID-19 patients: a systematic review and meta-analysis - PubMed

Moderate certainty evidence suggests that HCQ, with or without azithromycin, lacks efficacy in reducing short-term mortality in patients hospitalized with COVID-19 or risk of hospitalization in outpatients with COVID-19.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[BamaFan1137]

I mean there is clear evidence that getting vaccinated protect you significantly. But there’s also pretty clear epidemiological and statistical evidence that if you’re under the age of 35, the risk of adverse reactions to the vaccine, which are rare, are still greater than the risk of dying from Covid. We have to tell both sides of the story.

Winner-winner.

 

[instaGATOR]

This study has become outdated. It’s from April of 2020.
A more recent article:

Efficacy of chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine in COVID-19 patients: a systematic review and meta-analysis - PubMed

Moderate certainty evidence suggests that HCQ, with or without azithromycin, lacks efficacy in reducing short-term mortality in patients hospitalized with COVID-19 or risk of hospitalization in outpatients with COVID-19.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Maybe you just need to pay a little better attention.
Your Article >>> IN PATIENTS HOSPITALIZED OR CO-V OUTPATIENTS.

The doctors that are successfully treating the Kung Flu with the HCQ Cocktails are doing so at the first sign of symptoms, not sitting around and waiting until after they are so sick that they require ventilators and hospitalization.

Early Treatment is the answer and the cure.
None of those doctors have claimed that HCQ can raise the dead.....

 

[gator1776]

Maybe you just need to pay a little better attention.
Your Article >>> IN PATIENTS HOSPITALIZED OR CO-V OUTPATIENTS.

The doctors that are successfully treating the Kung Flu with the HCQ Cocktails are doing so at the first sign of symptoms, not sitting around and waiting until after they are so sick that they require ventilators and hospitalization.

Early Treatment is the answer and the cure.
None of those doctors have claimed that HCQ can raise the dead.....

Or could be there just giving it to bunch of people that we’re going to get better anyway to the potential side effects of hydroxychloroquine

They always say if you want to positive study treat the patients and are very sick.
As I won’t expect an intelligent response from you I won’t bother to read whatever you respond

 

[instaGATOR]