Regarding the Vaccine

[BillCutting4585]

You’re a fraud that because you pretend to be some independent thinker, yet follow along with the rest of the dorks on here. No original thoughts at all, and afraid to step out from your posse. Take a chance, admit the Country is headed in the right direction under Biden’s leadership.

I predict that in 20 years you’ll be bragging about some test you took 40 years ago, and still denying climate change is really happening.

PS. Why do you assume that any person responding to you is “mad.” That’s just silly.

I never said I was an independent thinker. I said I will call people out whenever I want and my thoughts are my own. How hard is that to understand?

Define right direction? You feel because the stock market is doing great, we’re heading in the right direction. That is literally your only point you ever bring up. I’ve asked you twice now what happens when the government stops injecting money into the market, you have yet to respond. Why?

Would you like to debate other issues where we clearly are not heading in the right direction? Didn’t think so because it’s a losing argument for you and you know this which is why you bring up an economy. You hate to lose debates because you feel what you say is always correct and when no one agrees with you, you lash out. Same thing happens with children.

I assumed your upset, not mad. As in something I said to you hurt your feelings and you feel the need to lash out. I offered to walk you through it, offer still stands.

 

[jfegaly]

Haha. Someone is still mad about failing sunnys test

 

[BillCutting4585]

Haha. Someone is still mad about failing sunnys test

I think failing in anything scars his ego

 

[BSC911]

I never said I was an independent thinker. I said I will call people out whenever I want and my thoughts are my own. How hard is that to understand?

Define right direction? You feel because the stock market is doing great, we’re heading in the right direction. That is literally your only point you ever bring up. I’ve asked you twice now what happens when the government stops injecting money into the market, you have yet to respond. Why?

Would you like to debate other issues where we clearly are not heading in the right direction? Didn’t think so because it’s a losing argument for you and you know this which is why you bring up an economy. You hate to lose debates because you feel what you say is always correct and when no one agrees with you, you lash out. Same thing happens with children.

I assumed your upset, not mad. As in something I said to you hurt your feelings and you feel the need to lash out. I offered to walk you through it, offer still stands.

If I haven’t responded, it’s because I either didn’t see it or was busy. Im not here all the time. I have time now so have answered.

Upset? Mad? Whatever. Same thing. I promise you I never take anything OTB seriously, so you must be projecting.

Im always up for a serious discussion on any topic, especially economics. Unfortunately, no one here seems to be capable without resorting to lame flames. So Im more than happy to respond in kind. In fact, when you first arrived, I recall that is what you said you wanted to do, but soon reversed course. So you are just another one not to be taken seriously.

 

[BSC911]

I think failing in anything scars his ego

See what I mean. I promise you, my ego is fully intact.

 

[BillCutting4585]

If I haven’t responded, it’s because I either didn’t see it or was busy. Im not here all the time. I have time now so have answered.

Upset? Mad? Whatever. Same thing. I promise you I never take anything OTB seriously, so you must be projecting.

Im always up for a serious discussion on any topic, especially economics. Unfortunately, no one here seems to be capable without resorting to lame flames. So Im more than happy to respond in kind. In fact, when you first arrived, I recall that is what you said you wanted to do, but soon reversed course. So you are just another one not to be taken seriously.

Upset is a broad term usually directed towards people who are sad but to each their own. I have nothing to project, life is good.

Well, to your credit when you call yourself king of the board or proclaim any other shit, it’s very easy to make fun of you. Now, I’ve had many great discussions with @kalimgoodman and no names or insults have ever been thrown out towards each other. Feel free to join at anytime. I’m all for debates @BSC911, that is one thing I’ll never shy away from. You may not like what I have to say, or I may not like what you have to say but you have an open invitation to change the way you respond to any of my posts if you’d like a serious conversation.

I do not take anything anyone says personally. This is the internet and as I’ve stated before, I wasn’t raised to be offended by what others say, feel or think.

 

[BSC911]

Upset is a broad term usually directed towards people who are sad but to each their own. I have nothing to project, life is good.

Well, to your credit when you call yourself king of the board or proclaim any other shit, it’s very easy to make fun of you. Now, I’ve had many great discussions with @kalimgoodman and no names or insults have ever been thrown out towards each other. Feel free to join at anytime. I’m all for debates @BSC911, that is one thing I’ll never shy away from. You may not like what I have to say, or I may not like what you have to say but you have an open invitation to change the way you respond to any of my posts if you’d like a serious conversation.

I do not take anything anyone says personally. This is the internet and as I’ve stated before, I wasn’t raised to be offended by what others say, feel or think.

Yeah, you’ve said that before but then revert back to the same old lame insults. I belong to other boards where a reasoned discussion is possible. This doesn’t appear to be one of them. There are too many here that want to do nothing but flame, so I won’t waste my time with them.

I gave an honest response to your economic question. We’ll see how you respond. There are plenty of things I don’t like about the direction of the country. I will be glad to discuss those as well, but for now, I’m signing off.

 

[G8trDad3]

I do find your findings and research fascinating and look forward to see the progress you make with treating the severely sick due to covid.

There is a lot of misinformation out there but I do think you’re on the right course. I hate to use the term “listen to the science”, but we need more docs like you navigating through the mess.

Just don’t be like @G8trDad3 who just blindly follows the CDC, NIH and WHO. As you know, those agencies have been corrupted with garbage.

Haha. So because I voice opinions different from yours I must be “blindly following” something. You all claim “I look at all the sources and come to my own opinion.” Then you put down anyone who comes to a different conclusion.

 

[jfegaly]

Can’t we all just keep wearing masks to prevent viral spread? It seemed to be working.

 

[BSC911]

Haha. So because I voice opinions different from yours I must be “blindly following” something. You all claim “I look at all the sources and come to my own opinion.” Then you put down anyone who comes to a different conclusion.

Bingo. And they always come to the same partisan conclusion. It's amazing.

 

[kalimgoodman]

Upset is a broad term usually directed towards people who are sad but to each their own. I have nothing to project, life is good.

Well, to your credit when you call yourself king of the board or proclaim any other shit, it’s very easy to make fun of you. Now, I’ve had many great discussions with @kalimgoodman and no names or insults have ever been thrown out towards each other. Feel free to join at anytime. I’m all for debates @BSC911, that is one thing I’ll never shy away from. You may not like what I have to say, or I may not like what you have to say but you have an open invitation to change the way you respond to any of my posts if you’d like a serious conversation.

I do not take anything anyone says personally. This is the internet and as I’ve stated before, I wasn’t raised to be offended by what others say, feel or think.

We definitely have good respectful conversations. You're probably the only one.

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

I never said I was an independent thinker. I said I will call people out whenever I want and my thoughts are my own. How hard is that to understand?

Define right direction? You feel because the stock market is doing great, we’re heading in the right direction. That is literally your only point you ever bring up. I’ve asked you twice now what happens when the government stops injecting money into the market, you have yet to respond. Why?

Would you like to debate other issues where we clearly are not heading in the right direction? Didn’t think so because it’s a losing argument for you and you know this which is why you bring up an economy. You hate to lose debates because you feel what you say is always correct and when no one agrees with you, you lash out. Same thing happens with children.

I assumed your upset, not mad. As in something I said to you hurt your feelings and you feel the need to lash out. I offered to walk you through it, offer still stands.

You might want to remind your opponent climate change has always happened. Most of us here gets it. It seems to be a concept your opponent simply can't grasp.

Your opponent just won't stop reminding us you would score higher in the intelligence quotient testing class room.

 

[fsumc]

LOL look at the race baiters in here all whining at Bill LOL

 

[instaGATOR]

For a break from the drama queens here, back to the vaccine....

June 28, 2021 (LifeSiteNews) – The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has added new warnings of heart inflammation risks to fact sheets for COVID-19 vaccines made by Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna.

The warnings refer to myocarditis and pericarditis after a second dose of either vaccine, the FDA announced on Friday. Myocarditis is inflammation of the heart muscle, while pericarditis is inflammation of the lining around the heart. Symptoms, like shortness of breath or chest pain, typically occur within a few days of vaccination, the FDA said.

By June 21st, there were 5,479 deaths reported.
As of June 29th, that number is now over 6,100 and still climbing.... (iG)

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/fda-adds-heart-inflammation-warning-to-pfizer-moderna-covid-19-vaccines

 

[BamaFan1137]

We definitely have good respectful conversations. You're probably the only one.

You and I used to...until you started to tell hard lies as opposed to easy truths. I have zero issue with differing opinions. I have zero time to waste with people who purposely avoid truth in an effort to defend said opinion, however.

 

[gator1776]

For a break from the drama queens here, back to the vaccine....

June 28, 2021 (LifeSiteNews) – The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has added new warnings of heart inflammation risks to fact sheets for COVID-19 vaccines made by Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna.

The warnings refer to myocarditis and pericarditis after a second dose of either vaccine, the FDA announced on Friday. Myocarditis is inflammation of the heart muscle, while pericarditis is inflammation of the lining around the heart. Symptoms, like shortness of breath or chest pain, typically occur within a few days of vaccination, the FDA said.

By June 21st, there were 5,479 deaths reported.
As of June 29th, that number is now over 6,100 and still climbing.... (iG)

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/fda-adds-heart-inflammation-warning-to-pfizer-moderna-covid-19-vaccines

You asked, we answered: Does VAERS list deaths caused by COVID-19 vaccines?

Is it true that VAERS says 3,000 people have died from the COVID-19 vaccines?

www.nebraskamed.com

 

[kalimgoodman]

You and I used to...until you started to tell hard lies as opposed to easy truths. I have zero issue with differing opinions. I have zero time to waste with people who purposely avoid truth in an effort to defend said opinion, however.

That's not accurate. We just disagree strongly about race.

 

[gator1776]

You and I used to...until you started to tell hard lies as opposed to easy truths. I have zero issue with differing opinions. I have zero time to waste with people who purposely avoid truth in an effort to defend said opinion, however.

RIP English

 

[BamaFan1137]

That's not accurate. We just disagree strongly about race.

I believe that you believe that. I do not believe that. I believe God created each one of us equally. Each one unique for sure...but absolute equality. We often struggle to coexist because Eve bit that apple and Adam allowed her to.

You might be surprised to learn certain things about me ftr.

 

[BamaFan1137]

RIP English

RIP conversation

 

[kalimgoodman]

I believe that you believe that. I do not believe that. I believe God created each one of us equally. Each one unique for sure...but absolute equality. We often struggle to coexist because Eve bit that apple and Adam allowed her to.

You might be surprised to learn certain things about me ftr.

Let me rephrase, we disagree on what's racist and what's not in regards to black people. So it impacted our communication/conversations.

Of course I believe we are equal but unique.

 

[BamaFan1137]

Let me rephrase, we disagree on what's racist and what's not in regards to black people. So it impacted our communication/conversations.

Of course I believe we are equal but unique.

Well, you did manage to highlight one difference in this post.

"we disagree on what's racist and what's not"

Imagine if you had stopped the sentence right there. But you added...

"in regards to black people."

Racism is racism. It matters not who it's in regards to.

IMHO our differences can be summed up by those two sentence fragments.

 

[kalimgoodman]

Well, you did manage to highlight one difference in this post.

"we disagree on what's racist and what's not"

Imagine if you had stopped the sentence right there. But you added...

"in regards to black people."

Racism is racism. It matters not who it's in regards to.

IMHO our differences can be summed up by those two sentence fragments.

I agree

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

Racist is one who sees a skin color as superior to another. BamaFan doesn't give a mouse's hiney what color Obama or I am. He cares what's in the heart.

Baseless racist charges is M. O. for the left.

I learned at a very early age I'm 1/4 house boy, token, "white boy", traitor and Uncle Tom. I didn't learn it from BamaFan1137.

 

[instaGATOR]

I grew up in a mildly racist (no KKK) household, but I was the 'black sheep' (pun intended) of the family.
Being a racist always seemed stupid and non-productive in my own personal experiences.

As a teenager, I admired MLK and totally agreed with this statement of his.
"I look to a day >>> when people will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character." I don't judge people by the color of their skin, and I won't put up with anyone judging me by the color of my skin. Good and Evil doesn't depend on any skin color.

Today, the Rats promote the 'color of the skin' while doing their best to totally overlook and ignore 'the content of their character.' (BLM / ANTIFA = DOMESTIC TERRORISTS, no matter their skin color)

My tours of duty in the military confirmed by beliefs concerning character over skin color, or any other differing human condition, such as race, religion, etc....
Good people, just like bad people, can be found anywhere in our society, or in the world for that matter.
I choose to associate with the good people, and avoid the bad people, whenever and wherever possible.
==========

Comedians and jokes are outside of the normal racist arena imo.
Jokes are either funny,,, or they're not, and that depends on each persons sense of humor.

Why do black people like having soup so much?
Because it gives them a chance to drown a few crackers....
(told to me by a black friend)

What's white, hard, and 12 inches long?
Absolutely Nothing.....
(told by me to a small group of black fellow workers)

Neither of those jokes are racist imoho, and both resulted in a big LOL....
See what I mean?

 

[instaGATOR]

And now,,, back to Regarding the Vaccine....

The reported side effects from the vaccines include migraines, anaphylaxis, seizures, paralysis and sudden death. Experts believe long-term effects from the gene therapy may include prion diseases such as Alzheimer’s, cancers, kidney diseases and microvascular injuries to the brain, liver and heart.

When there's a proven cure (HCQ cocktail) that's over 99% effective when used early after initial symptoms, why would I take a chance on a Co-V vaccine where the pharm's have been given immunity from the many negative effects of their vaccines???

The Hushed Long-Term Risks of COVID-19 Vaccines

The reported side effects from the vaccines include migraines, anaphylaxis, seizures, paralysis and sudden death. Experts believe long-term effects from the gene therapy may include prion diseases …

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[instaGATOR]

Crickets yet again on the 'take or don't take' vaccine debate.

Forced vaccinations are for sheep only, and are unconstitutional imoho.

 

[G8trDad3]

Covid vaccination should never be forced upon anyone. However your HCQ “cure” is bogus. And the article you cited is ridiculous.
I still today have patients turning positive, feeling like Sh**, and wishing they were vaccinated.

 

[kjfreeze]

Summation: Rethink our strategy based on available knowledge. Gives credence to the idea of not vaccinating those not a high risk, and certainly not anyone below the age of 35 unless they have risk factors.

@fatman76 thought you might want to share this with your child, maybe get him to change his mind and rethink the groupthink he was feed. It's highly technical and heavy in statistical math but accurate and consistent with what many of us in the medical profession have long thought, though it is just one doctors mathematical review of the research.

I have a simple answer: DO NOT VACCINATE ANYBODY

 

[kjfreeze]

Covid vaccination should never be forced upon anyone. However your HCQ “cure” is bogus. And the article you cited is ridiculous.
I still today have patients turning positive, feeling like Sh**, and wishing they were vaccinated.

No it isn't bogus. My brother had that protocol done and was over his "Covid" infection in 2 days. Still had weakness for several weeks but other than that he AND his wife did great with HCQ protocol.

 

[gator1776]

I have a simple answer: DO NOT VACCINATE ANYBODY

That’s the incorrect answer for people over the age of 40 particular high risk. And then it has been clearly show that the benefit outweighs the risk.

 

[goldmom]

I got the Pfizer, and I'm glad I did. When I was five I stood in line at an Armory and got stabbed in the arm by a grey haired ex Army nurse with hundreds of other kids for some new miracle vaccine to eradicate polio.
No one questioned the vaccine. Thank God my parents and millions of other parents followed what the government told them and the real fear we lived under was removed.

In primitive societies today there are still attacks on clinics where the polio vaccine is being administered. Unbelievable. And some of you Luddites don't want the COVID vaccine.
Don't get it. I don't care. You die, you die. Good for the gene pool.
Please remain in the shallow end of the pool. Your choice.

 

[Uniformed_ReRe]

I got the Pfizer, and I'm glad I did. When I was five I stood in line at an Armory and got stabbed in the arm by a grey haired ex Army nurse with hundreds of other kids for some new miracle vaccine to eradicate polio.
No one questioned the vaccine. Thank God my parents and millions of other parents followed what the government told them and the real fear we lived under was removed.

In primitive societies today there are still attacks on clinics where the polio vaccine is being administered. Unbelievable. And some of you Luddites don't want the COVID vaccine.
Don't get it. I don't care. You die, you die. Good for the gene pool.
Please remain in the shallow end of the pool. Your choice.

 

[gator1776]

I got the Pfizer, and I'm glad I did. When I was five I stood in line at an Armory and got stabbed in the arm by a grey haired ex Army nurse with hundreds of other kids for some new miracle vaccine to eradicate polio.
No one questioned the vaccine. Thank God my parents and millions of other parents followed what the government told them and the real fear we lived under was removed.

In primitive societies today there are still attacks on clinics where the polio vaccine is being administered. Unbelievable. And some of you Luddites don't want the COVID vaccine.
Don't get it. I don't care. You die, you die. Good for the gene pool.
Please remain in the shallow end of the pool. Your choice.

Damn, @goldmom Just went in deep on some of you suckers. No lube

 

[goldmom]

Damn skippy.

 

[jfegaly]

Damn, @goldmom Just went in deep on some of you suckers. No lube

She is hangry. No biggie.

 

[kalimgoodman]

I got the Pfizer, and I'm glad I did. When I was five I stood in line at an Armory and got stabbed in the arm by a grey haired ex Army nurse with hundreds of other kids for some new miracle vaccine to eradicate polio.
No one questioned the vaccine. Thank God my parents and millions of other parents followed what the government told them and the real fear we lived under was removed.

In primitive societies today there are still attacks on clinics where the polio vaccine is being administered. Unbelievable. And some of you Luddites don't want the COVID vaccine.
Don't get it. I don't care. You die, you die. Good for the gene pool.
Please remain in the shallow end of the pool. Your choice.

Never understood how why this vaccine became so politicized. America always stood together in times like this, well until now.

 

[jfegaly]

Never understood how why this vaccine became so politicized. America always stood together in times like this, well until now.

Why do you think it’s political? CNN tell you this, or you deduced this on your own by polling folks?

I swear, why does everything have to be political?

 

[fsumc]

I wonder if we could look back through media archives and figure out where this starting getting political?

 

[instaGATOR]

Covid vaccination should never be forced upon anyone. However your HCQ “cure” is bogus. And the article you cited is ridiculous.
I still today have patients turning positive, feeling like Sh**, and wishing they were vaccinated.

I trust guys like you, because when they claim that something is BOGUS, they always provide links to solid information proving their own BOGUS claims....

Half of doctors have used HCQ to treat Co-V.

The latest Sermo survey, which was taken between April 6 and April 9, found that of the 1,337 physicians surveyed who have treated patients with coronavirus, 50 percent have used Hydroxychloroquine or Chloroquine, which is the second most behind Azithromycin or similar antibiotics (58 percent.)

It was a survey of 6,000 doctors worldwide, which found that more doctors who had treated coronavirus patients considered hydroxychloroquine an effective treatment than any other.

Just over a third of those surveyed worldwide had actually called hydroxychloroquine the safest, from a list of treatments-a number that dropped to under 25 percent among U.S. doctors.

The early use of HCQ (during 1st week after symptoms appear) gives patients the best chances of a quick recovery. (iG)

The press release announcing the survey also stated that "one-quarter of global physicians agree that healthcare workers should take hydroxychloroquine to prevent COVID-19 infections."

Half of Coronavirus Doctors Have used Hydroxychloroquine: Survey

The latest Sermo survey, which was taken between April 6 and April 9, found that of the 1,337 physicians surveyed who have treated patients with coronavirus, 50 percent have used Hydroxychloroquine or Chloroquine, which is the second most behind Azithromycin or similar antibiotics (58 percent.)

nationalinterest.org