I will give you fsu with the RS freshman, but SC??? Eason may end up being good, but not so much on Saturday with this 4-4 uga team.....By the way, which QB has the better record as a starter among the 3 teams?
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His point was stupid, no matter what word was left out. This year we have a starting QB plus a transfer QB.. added in two QBs that are redshirting.
Last year FSU had a QB plus a transfer QB...plus one that redshirted.
Pretty much the exact situation but a year difference. Add in UF has two QBs redshirting instead of one.
But ours is a recruiting problem but FSU's is not. Kinda ironic.
I guess since we didn't have a porn chick offering sex to Appleby like y'all did Golden makes a difference.
Don't try to explain it or rationalize it to him. He has no idea what he's talking about.
Hell one or the other. Noles, whores, transfers, it all gets confusing.
Have you watched Jake Bentley? He might be the best young QB in the SEC. Terrible line. Totally poised. Big arm. He is not a good match up for UF. Very accurate on the deep ball and not afraid to split defenders. He tore Tenn to pieces.
Any neutral fan in the country would trade FSU's, UGa's and USCe's QB situation for UF's right now and not think twice about it. Del Rio has no ability to throw those 30 yd out patterns that really put pressure on the D. He can throw the balloon jump ball, but anything 10 yards beyond the LOS is a stretch for him. Just just doesn't have the arm.
He tore Tennessee to pieces?? Really? He threw for 167 yards. For crying out loud Austin Appleby threw for 296 yards on UT. What is your definition of tearing someone to pieces?
I can't wait to hear what other great insight you have for us. This is some good stuff.
Amazes me when a Nole tells everyone UF can't win with 3 stars.
Alabama 09 was loaded with 3 stars,over half the roster.
Winston's Nattie came on the back of a team loaded with 3 stars.
They found underated players and used them to build championship teams.
So yeh you can build without a top five class.
But to keep on top your better off with a top 5 class.
But Mac is who he is,he's not Urban,no one not named Saban is either.
Give him time if he wins recruiting will improve. He needs help but those needs are being built.
Alabama 09 was loaded with 3 stars,over half the roster.
Winston's Nattie came on the back of a team loaded with 3 stars.
They found underated players and used them to build championship teams.
So yeh you can build without a top five class.
But to keep on top your better off with a top 5 class.
But Mac is who he is,he's not Urban,no one not named Saban is either.
Give him time if he wins recruiting will improve. He needs help but those needs are being built.
One completed 75% of his passes. One had a 69 QB rating. One did not hurt his team with interceptions. One got stronger as the game went on, put his team on his back and personally converted critical 4th downs. South Carolina running attack has improved with him playing, because teams have to respect his deep ball.
By the way, the other QB you want to compare wilted like a salted snail...the offensive went in the tank at half time, because there was zero respect for the deep ball and Tennessee loaded the box resulting in like what? 3 first downs...hint: this was the Senior QB, with multiple starts, not the true freshman in his second start... who should be playing his senior year in high school. Just a suggestion, but if you are going to voice an opinion, you ought to at least read and listen to 3rd party opinions outside of your information silo if you are not going to actually watch the games.
he threw one interception
you are really trying to spin this one for what reason I have no idea, you are acting like someone is standing up and saying Appleby was Steve Young... he was still better than the freshman
you are really trying to spin this one for what reason I have no idea, you are acting like someone is standing up and saying Appleby was Steve Young... he was still better than the freshman
As is every team...but that team also had Mark Ingram, eddie Lacy, Trent Richardson, Julio Jones, Dont'a Hightower, Rolando McClain, Kareem Jackson, Mark Barron...and on and on.
In 2016 we honestly have no idea if Trask and/or Frank's is as good if not better than Del Rio.
The coaching staff and or the players themselves may want to be redshirted. That doesn't mean the future does not bode well for either of them.
In 2015 Francois sat the bench behind Sean Mc and the transfer. Does that mean he wasn't as good as Sean Mc? Obviously he was because he is now the starter.
Sure sometimes throwing the true freshman works out for the future. Sometimes redshirting the freshman QB works out for the future. Coaches go about it both ways.
Let's wait for these guys to actually take the field before rating their recruitment.
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Awesome! Bentley threw for 200 against Umass and 167 against Tenn both at home. The Appy St QB was 15 for 23 against the Vols, almost the same as Bentley. LDR is not the answer at QB if the Gators want to win a championship, but to say UGA and SC have a better QB situation than Florida is stretching it considerably.... Bentley is a bad match up for UF, I guess we will see next week.
You are a 3rd party??? Really, you are a non interested 3rd party over on a Gator board.....or maybe you are just another nolie that needs our validation?
I was referring to multiple sites...ESPN...SEC network, etc....praising the kid...pointing out that Bentley has made a huge difference in the Gamecock team. IOW, it's not just my opinion. Not only is he more poised than McIlwain (also a freshman by the way), but also because he is very accurate on the deep ball, which opens the running game up. South Carolina's OL is terrible, which is why they started McIlwain to begin the season, but Bentley really doesn't seem to be phased by the constant pressure. The kid did just the opposite of Appleby as the game wore on.
If a team is going to beat UF, the QB is going to have to be able to back the corners and safeties up. Bentley is capable of doing that. McIwain is less accurate on the deep ball. The whole complexion of the USC offense changes when Bentley is in there.
Florida is one of the easiest jobs in terms of recruiting and should be able to fill needs while being closer to top 5 than top 15. It really is about jimmys and joes.
A coach that cant pull in a top 5 class at florida year in and year out at UF would have me worried.
We're all worried. You'll notice I mentioned that we aren't filling needs either.
Look, LDR is not the answer, but neither uga or sc have a better QB situation. If we beat SC next week we will be 2-0 against those. Now the kid from fsu can flat play, I won't even try to debate that.....and who knows, maybe one of our freshman can play....but our coaches won't give either a shot for some reason...
If you look at what's proven, I'd say those three have better QB situations than ours. Francois leads all freshmen in passing yards per game and looks to be legit, Eason is a future star, and Bentley looks damn good. Now our freshmen might be every bit as good but they haven't proven that yet. And our coaches aren't giving them that chance right now so who knows. Based on what we know now though I'd take any of those three just being objective.
Stick either of those two guys on our offense and guess what.......that's right.....
You won't get an argument about LDR. But why do you dismiss the two QBs on the roster that are redshirting. Or the new guy coming in January?
That is why we ridicule your "reasoning."
An unknown cannot be proved or disproved. All we can say is that FSU will have a redshirt sophomore starting next year, and we will likely have a red shirt freshman. On paper, that favors FSU
But no one knows how next year will look
Really? We don't have any, everything going this year and next year. Both should be top 10 classes.
So we need to move on, but will we. Several very good coaches out there, even if we have to go on the cheap and get Fleck
Why not? Let me guess, no one will want the job?
So you bring him back next year and fire him half way through the year? The guy is an awful recruiter, send him packing, shit someone else's transition class will be better that the crap he brings in.
Face it, this program is dead. Zero excitement.
And let me add, if we lose Saturday, it may be better to fire him than bring back a lame duck just because "you can't fire him after two years"
We won't fire him, but we need to as soon as we can because it's obvious we are walking right into certain failure...
the worst part is other fanbases would say we are spoiled after looking at his record so far but not into any of the details against ranked opponents or anyone decent we have faced, much less gotten out coached massively by much worse teams an programs...
You can't fire him after 2 years because he also has a fairly large buyout himself.
What program has ever fired their head coach after just 2 years?
What program has ever fired their head coach after just 2 years?
Well Folly screwed us with yet another coach with his assinine buyouts to protect his pride.
What major program has hired two back to back TERRIBLE football coaches. Like I said, we will fire him half way though next year after yet another failed recruiting class.
Players are done, fans are done. Mac is done, its just a matter of when we pull the plug. He isn't here long term, and incoming recruits see that
As I recall, you laughed at my reasoning when LDR was named the starter....a wet noodle arm who didn't even get a schollie offer at Alabama and was a third stringer in OSU. Yeah...That guy. THAT guy was going to be the answer.
And, now a QB who never even started in HS and/or Franks, who looks like a linebacker trying to throw a pass for the first time are going to be seen as a "better situation" than two of the brightest Freshman QB's in several years in the SEC and Francois? But I am the one with faulty logic? ....ok
The regular suspects won't check, but they will argue the point, I am sure.
There would be hope if he was lighting it up on the recruiting trail. If you guys had 4 OL commits, 2 stud DT's and a couple of 5 star playmakers on offense, people would not be as concerned.
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