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Poll: Most Republicans care more about picking a 2024 GOP nominee who agrees with them on issues than one who can beat Biden

At least half the DeSantis supporters here only support DeSantis as long as he is running against Trump. As soon as that equation changes, their support swings to whoever the dems run against Trump.

A view into the mind of many DeSantis over Trump supporters. The lady responding to that tweet is a lawyer working for Team DeSantis. My guess is some of our DeSantis over Trump supporters here like @goldmom might have similar thoughts.

 
I have no interest in debating you sweetie. Neither one of us will change our views.
Bless your heart you’re just a hard headed good old boy. Set in your ways.
You’re free to hold on to your beliefs and your conclusions.
Keep on keepin on brother. 🇺🇸
No one wants to get embarrassed when they debate...I do not blame you.
 
No one wants to get embarrassed when they debate...I do not blame you.
How hard will @goldmom clutch her pearls if DeSantis wins the nomination and the media starts claiming he is a serial rapist?

"OMG! I had no idea DeSantis WAS THIS EVIL! I just can't support this AT ALL!" (clutches pearls tightly)

Did we ever figure out who is working for the dems here? Snicker.
 
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A view into the mind of many DeSantis over Trump supporters. The lady responding to that tweet is a lawyer working for Team DeSantis. My guess is some of our DeSantis over Trump supporters here like @goldmom might have similar thoughts.


I think you, and the person in that tweet, are missing that lawyers actual point. A point I've made myself.

You want DeSantis to defend himself from support...meanwhile it was ridiculous when Trump needed to defend himself from support.

FWIW, I thought it was ridiculous that Trump needed to defend himself from support and I think it's ridiculous that some people think DeSantis needs to do it now.

My position is the only one with consistency.
 
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How hard will @goldmom clutch her pearls if DeSantis wins the nomination and the media starts claiming he is a serial rapist?

"OMG! I had no idea DeSantis WAS THIS EVIL! I just can't support this AT ALL!" (clutches pearls tightly)

Did we ever figure out who is working for the dems here? Snicker.

I can't imagine many people will be surprised when the left does this. It's what they do.

Is the left responsibile for this growing divide on the right? Or are we doing this one to ourselves? Doesn't really matter I guess...we can all see who will profit from it.

My vote will go to DeSantis and then Trump, in that order, if required. My vote will serve my interests. IMHO, Republicans who don't follow a similar model, with a different order perhaps, are tacitly supporting the opposition.
 
How hard will @goldmom clutch her pearls if DeSantis wins the nomination and the media starts claiming he is a serial rapist?

"OMG! I had no idea DeSantis WAS THIS EVIL! I just can't support this AT ALL!" (clutches pearls tightly)

Did we ever figure out who is working for the dems here? Snicker.
Bro, they are ALREADY doing that, hedging their bets. That ship left port back this summer when he crushed Disney's skulls.
 
I think you, and the person in that tweet, are missing that lawyers actual point. A point I've made myself.

You want DeSantis to defend himself from support...meanwhile it was ridiculous when Trump needed to defend himself from support.

FWIW, I thought it was ridiculous that Trump needed to defend himself from support and I think it's ridiculous that some people think DeSantis needs to do it now.

My position is the only one with consistency.

You know the 2 things are totally different.
 
I can't imagine many people will be surprised when the left does this. It's what they do.

Is the left responsibile for this growing divide on the right? Or are we doing this one to ourselves? Doesn't really matter I guess...we can all see who will profit from it.

My vote will go to DeSantis and then Trump, in that order, if required. My vote will serve my interests. IMHO, Republicans who don't follow a similar model, with a different order perhaps, are tacitly supporting the opposition.
I will vote the opposite order, but could not agree more with the highlighted part of your post
 
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Bro, they are ALREADY doing that, hedging their bets. That ship left port back this summer when he crushed Disney's skulls.
I just know how RINOs are, they are led around by the nose by the media. Media tells them what to believe, then they repeat?

Where do you think they got 'Just move on' from? LOL
 
DeSantis hasn't seen nothing yet and only would if he won the primary. He would already be labeled a predator if he was in command of the race.
No reason to blow ammo this soon. There were zero rumors about Trump in 2016 from the media UNTIL he officially won the nomination. They all flipped on him overnight when that happened.

If DeSantis were to somehow win the nomination, they will do the same thing to him. Take away the Trump voters who won't vote for him due to not trusting him and the RINOs that will clutch their pearls and say he's TOO NASTY to vote for, combine those two groups and he has zero chance of being President in 2024.

I really don't understand why everyone here can't see that.
 
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We KNOW there will be rape allegations from his WAY past...like always with these POS's

They will use that time when he was partying with the younger females and pay off one of the lefty ones to pull the same crap they did on that USSC nominee. That is what I predict. Not sure if they will pull out nut # 100 again to claim Trump is a rapist again. They probably figure he is immune to that by now.
 
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I think you, and the person in that tweet, are missing that lawyers actual point. A point I've made myself.

You want DeSantis to defend himself from support...meanwhile it was ridiculous when Trump needed to defend himself from support.

FWIW, I thought it was ridiculous that Trump needed to defend himself from support and I think it's ridiculous that some people think DeSantis needs to do it now.

My position is the only one with consistency.
There's one thing you are forgetting: Trump voters in 2016 knew he didn't support white supremacists, we knew it was media BS, so we didn't expect or want him to address the rumors. A complete waste of time AND it encouraged the media to keep doing it.

With DeSantis in 2023, there ARE a significant portion of Trump voters who do not trust DeSantis as we did Trump in 2016.

If we trusted DeSantis now as we did Trump then, then your position would be consistent.

Let me rephrase that....it may be consistent for you, but it's not for a significant portion of Trump's base.

If DeSantis doesn't address our concerns, he likely won't get our votes. And without our votes, he has no chance, even if he wins the nomination. That's just reality.
 
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I do? Because I feel like I don't.

DeSantis team thinks throwing that crap around helps with the Trump hating Reps I guess. It might be stress since he is getting murdered by MAGA on social media. Unless they are really naive they know mentions of that nonsense pisses MAGA off. I bet they are all stressing how the hardest core MAGA sees DeSantis as connected to George Soros and the more moderate ones see him as a globalist snake in the grass now. Maybe it's like some lefties are saying that only fools would think you could out-Trump Trump himself to get those voters.
 
DeSantis team thinks throwing that crap around helps with the Trump hating Reps I guess. It might be stress since he is getting murdered by MAGA on social media. Unless they are really naive they know mentions of that nonsense pisses MAGA off. I bet they are all stressing how the hardest core MAGA sees DeSantis as connected to George Soros and the more moderate ones see him as a globalist snake in the grass now. Maybe it's like some lefties are saying that only fools would think you could out-Trump Trump himself to get those voters.
To be fair, if DeSantis is really in bed with the RINOs, none of them give a shit what Trump supporters are saying on social media. They think they can just steal the 2024 election like the did the one in 2020.
 
To be fair, if DeSantis is really in bed with the RINOs, none of them give a shit what Trump supporters are saying on social media. They think they can just steal the 2024 election like the did the one in 2020.

I sense stress from some of them online. I think they thought doing the Disney headlines and bussing illegals would be enough to peel off a chunk of MAGA support.
 
If DeSantis were to somehow win the nomination, they will do the same thing to him.

Of course they will. Who other than lying liberals are claiming otherwise? They will also compare him to Hitler a million times.

That changes nothing regardless of who we nominate. It's a non-factor for us.
 
Take away the Trump voters who won't vote for him due to not trusting him and the RINOs that will clutch their pearls and say he's TOO NASTY to vote for, combine those two groups and he has zero chance of being President in 2024.

I really don't understand why everyone here can't see that.

I don't understand how some of us don't see that the options in your scenario, from the Trump loyalist perspective, would be lose-lose bigger.
 
If DeSantis goes establishment FOR REAL..he will never win the presidential election in his lifetime. Trump ruined the establishment. They are the only people on earth that do not understand this.
 
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There's one thing you are forgetting: Trump voters in 2016 knew he didn't support white supremacists, we knew it was media BS, so we didn't expect or want him to address the rumors. A complete waste of time AND it encouraged the media to keep doing it.

With DeSantis in 2023, there ARE a significant portion of Trump voters who do not trust DeSantis as we did Trump in 2016.

If we trusted DeSantis now as we did Trump then, then your position would be consistent.

Let me rephrase that....it may be consistent for you, but it's not for a significant portion of Trump's base.

If DeSantis doesn't address our concerns, he likely won't get our votes. And without our votes, he has no chance, even if he wins the nomination. That's just reality.

I'm a bit speechless if I'm being totally honest.

Yesterday, you didn't need a Trump denial even though some people said they did.

Today, you do need a DeSantis denial even though some of us say we don't.

Do you see what I'm getting at?

Unless these attitudes change, the chosen liberal will cruise to an easy victory. They won't even need mules.
 
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I'm a bit speechless if I'm being totally honest.

Yesterday, you didn't need a Trump denial even though some people said they did.

Today, you do need a DeSantis denial even though some of us say we don't.

Do you see what I'm getting at?

Unless these attitudes change, the chosen liberal will cruise to an easy victory. They won't even need mules.
I never understand why people cannot see this. There will be TWO possibilities for President. You pick ONE..or the other. A NO vote IS a vote for THE OTHER side
 
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DeSantis team thinks throwing that crap around helps with the Trump hating Reps I guess. It might be stress since he is getting murdered by MAGA on social media. Unless they are really naive they know mentions of that nonsense pisses MAGA off. I bet they are all stressing how the hardest core MAGA sees DeSantis as connected to George Soros and the more moderate ones see him as a globalist snake in the grass now. Maybe it's like some lefties are saying that only fools would think you could out-Trump Trump himself to get those voters.

Or maybe we're being double-tricked and Soros is funding the conspiracy that DeSantis is a globalist rino???

This is freaking nuts. Give me DeSantis or give me Trump. Either is infinitely better than the alternative.
 
Or maybe we're being double-tricked and Soros is funding the conspiracy that DeSantis is a globalist rino???

This is freaking nuts. Give me DeSantis or give me Trump. Either is infinitely better than the alternative.
I think SOMEONE is...not sure it is Soros. Cannot figure out if it is Trumps people, or the left. At this time, I do NOT think this is who DeSantis is
 
If DeSantis goes establishment FOR REAL..he will never win the presidential election in his lifetime. Trump ruined the establishment. They are the only people on earth that do not understand this.

But if he's clever and he captures the moderate vote as well while remaining intent on governing just as we've seen him govern thus far, well hell...that might just work too.
 
I think SOMEONE is...not sure it is Soros. Cannot figure out if it is Trumps people, or the left. At this time, I do NOT think this is who DeSantis is

I think we have people who are still pissed because the last election was stolen. To make that right, it's Trump or Armageddon.

I get the pissed part. I don't get the Armageddon, F it all, cut off your nose to spite your face, nuclear option. That's not logic.
 
Or maybe we're being double-tricked and Soros is funding the conspiracy that DeSantis is a globalist rino???

This is freaking nuts. Give me DeSantis or give me Trump. Either is infinitely better than the alternative.

I would rather do without the establishment line the pockets of the huge donors agenda.
 
But if he's clever and he captures the moderate vote as well while remaining intent on governing just as we've seen him govern thus far, well hell...that might just work too.
Not so sure...there are WAY more conservatives than moderates. See Liz Cheney, Jeff Snowflake, Paul Ryan and the other 5-6 dozen Trump ran out of office
 
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You would prefer Gavin Newsome or some other nutbag lib?

What in the entire _____? If this happens, I'd rather not hear any of you guys complain about this next administration.
Distressing AF. The left eats their own, we should not be following suit. I'm an entrenched Trump voter, but I see no sense in throwing DeSantis under a bus until there is REAL evidence that's warranted. Everyone needs to relax.
 
Impossible unless Trumps moves out of FL.

And that isn't happening. My guess is Trump's main focus at this stage in life is finishing off that traitor's white house ambitions after winning in 2024. DeSantis will be finished unless Trump loses in 2024 if he can't win the primary.
 
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Trump wants him beat before he even declares in May. Those idiots really thought Trump might sit around and wait until he officially declared. I would love to sit in on their next strategy session. 🤣 🤣

Also notice how he uses the exact same words flowing in social media with Ron DeSantis "globalist" and ties it to the insurance" companies. He knows how to push certain buttons.
 
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Trump wants him beat before he even declares in May. Those idiots really thought Trump might sit around and wait until he officially declared. I would love to sit in on their next strategy session. 🤣 🤣

Also notice how he uses the exact same words flowing in social media with Ron DeSantis "globalist" and ties it to the insurance" companies. He knows how to push certain buttons.
I WILL IGNORE any and all statements by Trump on Desantis.

"Donald Trump on Tuesday alleged that Ted Cruz’s father was with John F. Kennedy’s assassin shortly before he murdered the president, parroting a National Enquirer story claiming that Rafael Cruz was pictured with Lee Harvey Oswald handing out pro-Fidel Castro pamphlets in New Orleans in 1963."

Trump is a known liar when it comes to campaigning. As a member of the elephant party I have a long memory and what the turd did to Cruz will not be forgotten by me. I can forgive but his lies against Cruz will color my primary choices and disqualify HIS statements about ANY candidate running against him.

Default- Trumps says X against Y ...Its a lie.

My order of vote for the primary will be Desantis and Viveck

I will vote GOP in the general unless they nominate Satan. Trump ONLY gets my vote in the general

My primary votes or support
1996 Keyes
2000 Keyes
2008 Thompson
2012 Cain then Santorum
2016 Cruz
 
And that would be VERY easy to do

Not really when it would kill him on taxes in NY or NJ and the lefties could stalk him in Nevada and claim by case law he never truly established residency. Even before DeSantis pulled this stuff I think it was always close to a zero chance of it happening short of DeSantis being willing to give up 2 years as Governor if they lost by moving himself.
 
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