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New We’re at the bottom of covid response by any meaningful metric

Not true...we're at the top with regards to testing compared to relative population. From the same website you linked...

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/full-list-cumulative-total-tests-per-thousand-map

We’ve also taken the biggest economic hit of any country in terms of unemployment, loss of gdp, debt.

Two things....of course we've taken a bigger hit economically. We are still the richest nation on planet earth (for now) so a shutdown will cause more economic loss here than in Latvia, Greece or Ghana. Likewise, if you didn't have a job prior to the pandemic, the pandemic didn't cost you your job. Unemployment was ridiculously low in the US prior to the pandemic and that wasn't the case for most every other developed nation.
 
Not true...we're at the top with regards to testing compared to relative population. From the same website you linked...

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/full-list-cumulative-total-tests-per-thousand-map



Two things....of course we've taken a bigger hit economically. We are still the richest nation on planet earth (for now) so a shutdown will cause more economic loss here than in Latvia, Greece or Ghana. Likewise, if you didn't have a job prior to the pandemic, the pandemic didn't cost you your job. Unemployment was ridiculously low in the US prior to the pandemic and that wasn't the case for most every other developed nation.

How about relative stats like unemployment rate and loss of gdp by percentage. How much debt have we taken on to even keep our numbers at these sub-depression levels?
 
Not true...we're at the top with regards to testing compared to relative population. From the same website you linked...

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/full-list-cumulative-total-tests-per-thousand-map



Two things....of course we've taken a bigger hit economically. We are still the richest nation on planet earth (for now) so a shutdown will cause more economic loss here than in Latvia, Greece or Ghana. Likewise, if you didn't have a job prior to the pandemic, the pandemic didn't cost you your job. Unemployment was ridiculously low in the US prior to the pandemic and that wasn't the case for most every other developed nation.

Im not talking about Latvia, Greece or Ghana. I’m talking about our competitors in the world. Do you know who they are? Show me some numbers on how we’ve done vs our competitors. Isn’t that who we’re supposed to be beating up on? How we doing on trade vs. China?
 
How are we doing on repatriating our supply chains? Wasn’t Trump all fired up about that for about 15 minutes?
 
Just save it dude. You can’t make a case that Trump has handled this well. By objective comparison to our contemporaries, it’s not the case. Just stick to the excuses.
 
How we doing on trade vs. China?

Who knows....because China has lied their ass off about the pandemic since the jump. Per their reporting, they're kicking our ass. So you believe their reporting? Please say that you do not.

Im not talking about Latvia, Greece or Ghana.

I used them as an example in comparing economic loss. Not as a measuring stick for how well we've done in response.
 
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Who knows....because China has lied their ass off about the pandemic since the jump. Per their reporting, they're kicking our ass. So you believe their reporting? Please say that you do not.



I used them as an example in comparing economic loss. Not as a measuring stick for how well we've done in response.

Its telling who you use as comparisons. That’s my point.
 
New Just save it dude.

Excellent advise. You are a waste of time.

You hate Trump. A Liberal would have protected us better...despite calling moves to shut down travel from China xenophobic.

And we should stop spending money....unless it's on shit that you approve of like the Green New Deal or the Paris Climate Accord...and let's not forget the redistribution of wealth.

No one would have kept it out of the US. Does the fact that it hits less developed nations slowest and last escape you? Why is that? Does that mean they're doing a better job or is there simple less international travel....or even internal travel FFS.
 
And you love blaming Trump......... Virus came from China-not Trump Tower

Fauci and quarantine to blame for economic situation.

You are so far into the Despise Trump mode you miss the obvious because you are gleeful this is happening!

You are about as intelligent as your avatar idiot!

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-eu-italy-idUSKBN22I145.
Italy by percentage
 
It was part of the point I was making. Poor countries lost less because they had less. This isn't that difficult.

You are a very stubborn person. I wish I could help.

OK so show me a competitor that has handled the disease or the economics worse.
 
OK so show me a competitor that has handled the disease or the economics worse.

You tell me which lib would have handled it better remembering that they weren't allowed to print money in the process (because one standard seems fair and you love to cry about the money Trump has spent) and maybe I'll consider wasting my time researching something that you will undoubtedly ignore if it says something that you don't want to hear.
 
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And you love blaming Trump......... Virus came from China-not Trump Tower

Fauci and quarantine to blame for economic situation.

You are so far into the Despise Trump mode you miss the obvious because you are gleeful this is happening!

You are about as intelligent as your avatar idiot!

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-eu-italy-idUSKBN22I145.
Italy by percentage

Virus came from China for everyone. I’m saying Trump handled it worse than our competitors. Regarding your article, did you elect Trump to be better than Italy? And our numbers are worse than Italy’s. We’re going to lose more gdp, we’re going to lose more jobs on a percentage basis, and our virus deaths are going to end up 10x+ theirs. Their debt to gdp is worse, but our debt just tripled and our gdp is projected to drop 40 percent. But if you want to take a victory lap for maybe handling the virus almost as well as Italy, be my guest. Are you another Ghost alter ego? You seem to be similarly impressed by your intelligence for no reason.
 
You tell me which lib would have handled it better remembering that they weren't allowed to print money in the process (because one standard seems fair and you love to cry about the money Trump has spent) and maybe I'll consider wasting my time researching something that you will undoubtedly ignore if it says something that you don't want to hear.

That’s right. Stick to the excuses and speculative comparisons. I understand, the facts are not your friend. Wasting your time researching? Just ask the economics experts that you employ!
 
That’s right. Stick to the excuses and speculative comparisons. I understand, the facts are not your friend. Wasting your time researching?

You've got to be shitting me. You lecturing me on speculation? You have to be a troll.

Just ask the economics experts that you employ!

He's an economic adviser you dolt. Are you being an intentional asshole or is this just who you are?
 
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Bradley, are you pissed because I said that imo we will recover and overcome our bankruptcy issues or because it would piss you off if we did....and Trump was the president?
 
You tell me which lib would have handled it better remembering that they weren't allowed to print money in the process (because one standard seems fair and you love to cry about the money Trump has spent) and maybe I'll consider wasting my time researching something that you will undoubtedly ignore if it says something that you don't want to hear.

I love the argument from a guy that posts 1000 messages on a board in a day that he’s not going to “waste his time” researching to back up his assertions. It’s so Trump like!

Hey I just spout opinions. I don’t waste my time trying to educate myself on anything I’m talking about.
 
Bradley, are you pissed because I said that imo we will recover and overcome our bankruptcy issues or because it would piss you off if we did....and Trump was the president?

Im pissed because it’s all you dumb hicks’ fault that this obvious incompetent is driving this country into a ditch.
 
I love the argument from a guy that posts 1000 messages on a board in a day that he’s not going to “waste his time” researching to back up his assertions. It’s so Trump like!

Hey I just spout opinions. I don’t waste my time trying to educate myself on anything I’m talking about.

I educate myself daily. The waste of time part was in reference to you.

1,000 messages a day? Speaking of education....
 
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I love the argument from a guy that posts 1000 messages on a board in a day that he’s not going to “waste his time” researching to back up his assertions. It’s so Trump like!

Hey I just spout opinions. I don’t waste my time trying to educate myself on anything I’m talking about.

Bankruptcy issues? LOL. How about 30 million unemployed? How about a complete crash in consumer spending? How about global trade grinding to a halt. 9 trillion in new debt with no impact on demand. Limitless trillions in printed dollars. The Fed buying junk bonds.

This economy is going to be the worst we’ve seen in a 100 years you dumb hayseed.
 
Im pissed because it’s all you dumb hicks’ fault that this obvious incompetent is driving this country into a ditch.

So yea....this is the sort of thing I was referring to when I called you a waste of time.

Of the two of us, I am FAR more likely to listen to, and actually hear, an opposing idea or argument. If you doubt me, ask someone like sad or BSC. I believe that they will tell you a hard truth. If that makes me a "dumb hick" then I'm a big one.
 
Virus came from China for everyone. I’m saying Trump handled it worse than our competitors. Regarding your article, did you elect Trump to be better than Italy? And our numbers are worse than Italy’s. We’re going to lose more gdp, we’re going to lose more jobs on a percentage basis, and our virus deaths are going to end up 10x+ theirs. Their debt to gdp is worse, but our debt just tripled and our gdp is projected to drop 40 percent. But if you want to take a victory lap for maybe handling the virus almost as well as Italy, be my guest. Are you another GhostEetent alter ego? You seem to be similarly impressed by your intelligence for no reason.

You call the president an idiot, you question my intelligence and then you fail to mention that most of the overspending you note was by the incompetent congress and also fail to acknowledge that our numbers with Covid 19 are not generated in the same manner as other countries. But you have eyes and ears only for your Trump hating delirium so just hang in there for 4 1/2 years and stay on your meds. If you need some hydroxychlorquine I have the number of an aquarium store online, I will send you a coupon.Also I thought you liberals considered all other countries our brothers in some globalist new order; why are they competitors?
 
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