Debunking 4 Big Errors Made in Lawsuit to Stop Trump’s Birthright Citizenship Order
The lawsuit seeking to stop Trump’s birthright citizenship order from going into effect has arguments offered that are largely terrible.
nice opinion piece of birth right citizenship
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The libs will be crying over this. They hate facts. But they cry about everything.
Hopefully they can stop this:
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China has been sending them over here to give birth for decades.
Birth Tourism: Uncovering the Hidden Secrets
Birth tourism, also known as maternity tourism, refers to the practice of traveling to another country for the purpose of giving birth there. This allows the
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Ummmmm regardless of how that article tries to "explain" it, and how folks want it fixed. The only way to do so is to repeal the 14th Amendment. For a party that hollers that "abortion isnt stated in the Constitution", its crazy the mental gymnastics this article is doing. The language is crystal clear...
"Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
"All persons born...." there is no "interpretation" of this clear language.
Is preggo tourism an issue?
Yes, if so stop granting travel visas to preggos. Make them take a preggo test at the application appointment.
Or ratify a new amendment that states as of the date of the ratification any one born in the US, after the date of the ratification of said amendment, is not a US citizen unless they have at least 1 parent born in the US to a US parent or a parent that was a naturalized US citizen prior to the ratification of this Amendmet. Then include the rest of the 14th Amendment language.
That's how you fix it. Otherwise any law outlawing birthright citizenship is per se unconstitutional.
"Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
"All persons born...." there is no "interpretation" of this clear language.
Is preggo tourism an issue?
Yes, if so stop granting travel visas to preggos. Make them take a preggo test at the application appointment.
Or ratify a new amendment that states as of the date of the ratification any one born in the US, after the date of the ratification of said amendment, is not a US citizen unless they have at least 1 parent born in the US to a US parent or a parent that was a naturalized US citizen prior to the ratification of this Amendmet. Then include the rest of the 14th Amendment language.
That's how you fix it. Otherwise any law outlawing birthright citizenship is per se unconstitutional.
You are leaving out the MOST important part of the first sentence:
"Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,
IF the parent is here illegally, they are not subject to the jurisdiction thereof, and so it goes to follow, any child born while the parents are here illegally would not be subject to the jurisdiction thereof.
If you look into the history and the intention of the 14th Amendment, it was to ensure that all the slaves, who were brought here against their will, and any child they might have had while they were here, would become citizens.
BC, you have got to stop listening to those folks with GOOGLE University JDs....😉
#1. That is incorrect and a stretch. 1. If the parents are here, illegally or not they a subjected to the jurisdiction of the United States. If what you are saying, then why is the guy who killed LiRi, sitting in jail convicted of a crime? Or folks sitting in Fed Pens convicted of rico, drug traffic, murder etc. If what you said is true, then their cases should be dismissed as the US has no jurisdiction. 2. US citizens in foreign countries that commit certain crimes can be arrested/or the US can request an arrest and extradited to the US, if not extradited then a standing arrest warrant is issued, or non-US citizens that commit crimes against the US in foreign countries that are arrested and prosecuted here. Or better yet, drug runners arrested by the Coast Guard in the Gulf of Mexico/the Pacific/Carribean sea/Atlantic ocen, outside the 100mile range of US waters, that are brought in and prosecuted. If what you're suggesting is correct, there are tons of folks in US fed pens illegally.
2. I know why it was created, it doesn't matter. The language is clear. If it were to only apply to children and decendants of former slaves, logically there are a whole bunch or "illegal" kids in this country. How many, Jewish, italian, irish, polish, etc arrived here after the 1860s who before being naturalized had those "anchor" babies? If what your suggesting is true, a whole bunch of folks need to be deported.
3. The party that essentially overturned Roe v Wade on the strict reading of the Constitution, i.e. abortion isnt mentioned in the Constitution, can't now start talking about the original intent of those who wrote it. Kind of hypocritical don't you think?
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Lib know NOTHING about following laws...and conveniently quote them to fit their agenda's
Are you a Supreme Court Justice in disguise? Lets let REAL litigators interpret this...its all that really matters...not your opinion. You MAY end up being correct...but I prefer to let the REAL authority decide...not someone who HOPES that it falls their way.
Secondly...we would be the only Country on earth that does this if true. STUPID is as stupid does. So much momentum OUIR way right now on this subject...we MAY just revoke the 14th...or change it
It is word for word in the Constitution. Real litigators🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I ve been a criminal defense and prosecutor for 20+ years. I m sure I know the Constitution, and how it is applied a little bit more than you
. Any law enacted denying birthright citizenship is unconstitutional. It flies in the face of the actual language of the Constitution. You can't say, "well abortion isn't written in the Constitution,therefore it isn't protected." Then turn around and deny a right actually written into the Constitution.
Again, you always talk out of your ass about how I feel about something and are always wrong.
You just like to argue don't you. Take your Google JD and go sit down somewhere. You can't even duspute the jurisdiction argument coherently because your go to response is always a dumb ass comment. "But but but libs".
You're ignorant and uneducated... "but but but libs". I ll wait for your other educated comments like "pussy, sissy, snowflake, etc".
Which is what I said needs to be done if you weren't so triggered and read further.....
Dumb ass
This made me laugh!! You are crying like a little 12 year old girl over on the football board about name calling back here....and you post like this! Jason would be proud of you. I just laugh at you. And let me educate you AGAIN...being a criminal defense lawyer( ASCUM BAG job) does not even help you SPELL Constitution. And either quit crying like you are being abused back here, son....it HAS to be embarrassing for a man(oh, you are a lib...so this is very much in question)
Blah blah blah blah blah.... 12 yr old girl, blah blah blah, a scum bag job (yeah until you need one) blah blah blah.... cant spell Constitution( on a phone ohhhh no) blah blah blah.
Yeah, this was the most educated you've sounded on this board.... you hate non-white folks soooooo much. It smells through the phone.
BTW, if a phone keyboard is your standard of spelling, you cant spell OUR correctly.
Dumb ass
LOLOLOLOL The lib battle cry when they lose any argument !!! RACIST RACIST RACIST Go back to the rock you crawled out from under, son.
Blah... blah... blah.. blah.. "son" (I forgot that one) learn how to spell OUR before you speak to me again.
It is. O. U. R.,
You can't wait until the allow you to turn people in. You probably have that ICE hotline number on speed dial. That ish is your viagra.
Dumb ass.
Please make your point without the name-calling, thank you, brother ...
Fres... for sure.
I see he told on me....
Can I at least opine he is soft after all the ish he called me in other threads on this board?
He didn't tell me anything I read the thread.
You can speak in general terms without making it personal. You're an attorney you know how to do that, haha ...
