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There is no telling what there payin or saying to Gelsey. I said before that they would go all in to have a headline over UF. They still SUCK
 
Think we had an outstanding class with possibly the most memorable and improbable closes we’ve ever had.

Go get Otis Cranberries and work the portal like it stole something. Which..it kinda did
Thanks, I'll forever think of him by that name now...LOL
 
I didn’t add anything outside of BG's development ability and ability to recruit. I poi ted out a recent example was RP.

You added(or someone did) and disputed that by saying he only got drafted that high because of his combine work out. I said the same would equally apply for tOSU receivers.

Until one of these kids say its BG and I'm not going. Take Dallas today, he told UF and Miami he was coming. So does BG get credit for that in your eyes?

You think BG pissed him off between 1AM and 9AM today, or was it something else ($$$$$) that changed his mind.

What about Ffrench and Texas($$$$)?

Shouldn't BG get credit for sign VB ... according to ON3 these are the rankings of the 3... DW>Ffrench>VB

97.09>95.91>95.60. Rank. 2>7>9.

Then looking at each service individually, all are within 1-4 spots in the WR rankings.


Oh wait, the next argument is "VB is a legacy" you think VB JR, is letting his son go where he wont be developed?

You say he hasn't developed here, ignoring his past, ignoring the impact of NIL, ignoring this most recent tenure he has recruited 1 class, and the kids are Fr/ RFr and last year the Oline was bad as was the play calling. Development would be difficult to ascertain for those kids at this point.
I have my reasons and you have your reasons. You say I ignore stuff and I say the same to you. Do you ever wonder why we have to keep going to the portal to look for starters? Could it be that all the upperclassmen have been Billy G guys who haven't developed?
 
We live in Miami Beach, my wife still has trouble cutting the umbilical cord, his fiance and her family live near Aventura and she just matched with UMiami/Jackson Hospital for a 3 year fellowship in Fertility. My money is on the Miami area.
You’re one lucky guy if they end up that close to you especially when you the grandkids come.
 
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I have my reasons and you have your reasons. You say I ignore stuff and I say the same to you. Do you ever wonder why we have to keep going to the portal to look for starters? Could it be that all the upperclassmen have been Billy G guys who haven't developed?

I think you're wrong.

Billy G has been here since March 2023, what upperclassmen are you talking about?. He was here for only the 2023 and 2024 class.

The kids he "started" with are RFr and Fr at this point. The kids he recruited are Fr.

This is who he inherited last year...


0Ja'Quavion FraziarsWRJr.6-4215Dunnellon, Fla. / Dunnellon
1Ricky PearsallWRSr.6-1190Chandler, Ariz. / Corona Del SolArizona State
3Eugene Wilson IIIWRFr.5-10170Tampa, Fla. / Gaither
4Caleb Douglas WRSo.6-3200Missouri City, Texas / Hightower
6Andy JeanWRFr.6-1190Miami, Fla. / Miami Northwestern
11Aidan MizellWRFr.6-2170Orlando, Fla. / Boone
16Thai Chiaokhiao-BowmanWRSo.6-0200Minneapolis, Minn. / ArmstrongIndependence CC
19Alex GonzalezWRR-Fr.5-10190Fort Myers, Fla. / Lehigh
22Kahleil JacksonWRR-So.6-3210Hawthorne, Fla. / Hawthorne
30Taylor SpiertoWRR-So.6-0205Franklin, Tenn. / Franklin
33Daniel CrossWRR-Sr.6-0180Orlando, Fla. / East River
43Jaden EdgecombeWRFr.5-8165Cocoa, Fla. / Cocoa
80Zak SedarosWRR-Fr.5-10175Melbourne, Fla. / Viera
83Jackson WadeWRFr.5-11170Dallas, Ga. / North Paulding
84Brian Green Jr.WRFr.6-0195Jacksonville, Fla. / Orange Park
88Marcus BurkeWRR-So.6-4200Jacksonville, Fla. / Trinity Christian

Ricky P, Caleb Douglas and KJack were the starters, yr 1. C.D. gets hurt. Tre comes in AND becomes a star Fr.

2024 returned

KJack, Burke, Tre, Frazier, Mizell, jean and a buch of walk-ons. KJack, Tre, Jean all get hurt. So a bunch of walk-ons and 5 Fr, Burke, Mizell, and Fraziers.

What upperclassmen is BG responsible for and their lack of development?

Can you see why they hit the Portal?

Jean is gone, KJack and Tre recoveri g from significant injuries Dike and Badger gone.

3 Fr.

BG has always required a kid to block in the run game. If they can't do that, they usually, not always, don't start. That doesn't mean they aren't being developed.
 
I think you're wrong.

Billy G has been here since March 2023, what upperclassmen are you talking about?. He was here for only the 2023 and 2024 class.

The kids he "started" with are RFr and Fr at this point. The kids he recruited are Fr.

This is who he inherited last year...


0Ja'Quavion FraziarsWRJr.6-4215Dunnellon, Fla. / Dunnellon
1Ricky PearsallWRSr.6-1190Chandler, Ariz. / Corona Del SolArizona State
3Eugene Wilson IIIWRFr.5-10170Tampa, Fla. / Gaither
4Caleb Douglas WRSo.6-3200Missouri City, Texas / Hightower
6Andy JeanWRFr.6-1190Miami, Fla. / Miami Northwestern
11Aidan MizellWRFr.6-2170Orlando, Fla. / Boone
16Thai Chiaokhiao-BowmanWRSo.6-0200Minneapolis, Minn. / ArmstrongIndependence CC
19Alex GonzalezWRR-Fr.5-10190Fort Myers, Fla. / Lehigh
22Kahleil JacksonWRR-So.6-3210Hawthorne, Fla. / Hawthorne
30Taylor SpiertoWRR-So.6-0205Franklin, Tenn. / Franklin
33Daniel CrossWRR-Sr.6-0180Orlando, Fla. / East River
43Jaden EdgecombeWRFr.5-8165Cocoa, Fla. / Cocoa
80Zak SedarosWRR-Fr.5-10175Melbourne, Fla. / Viera
83Jackson WadeWRFr.5-11170Dallas, Ga. / North Paulding
84Brian Green Jr.WRFr.6-0195Jacksonville, Fla. / Orange Park
88Marcus BurkeWRR-So.6-4200Jacksonville, Fla. / Trinity Christian

Ricky P, Caleb Douglas and KJack were the starters, yr 1. C.D. gets hurt. Tre comes in AND becomes a star Fr.

2024 returned

KJack, Burke, Tre, Frazier, Mizell, jean and a buch of walk-ons. KJack, Tre, Jean all get hurt. So a bunch of walk-ons and 5 Fr, Burke, Mizell, and Fraziers.

What upperclassmen is BG responsible for and their lack of development?

Can you see why they hit the Portal?

Jean is gone, KJack and Tre recoveri g from significant injuries Dike and Badger gone.

3 Fr.

BG has always required a kid to block in the run game. If they can't do that, they usually, not always, don't start. That doesn't mean they aren't being developed.
Burke and Fraziars are Billy G guys. He recruited them. Billy came into a program with very little talent at WR in just Henderson and Shorter and had to go in the portal for Ricky. Henderson and Shorter transferred or graduated after the first year. Outside of Wilson and Pearsall there was very little production in '23 and having to resort to play bad players like Kahleil Jackson and Thai Bowman. We had to go into the portal again for Dike and Badger. And we're having to do it again this year.

The room is a mess because of Mullen and Billy G recruiting and Napier having to play catch-up.
 
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Burke and Fraziars are Billy G guys. He recruited them. Billy came into a program with very little talent at WR in just Henderson and Shorter and had to go in the portal for Ricky. Henderson and Shorter transferred or graduated after the first year. Outside of Wilson and Pearsall there was very little production in '23 and having to resort to play bad players like Kahleil Jackson and Thai Bowman. We had to go into the portal again for Dike and Badger. And we're having to do it again this year.

The room is a mess because of Mullen and Billy G recruiting and Napier having to play catch-up.
Very true. We’ve seen plenty of Billy G over the course of 6 season. Think it’s time to move in another direction
 
Burke and Fraziars are Billy G guys. He recruited them. Billy came into a program with very little talent at WR in just Henderson and Shorter and had to go in the portal for Ricky. Henderson and Shorter transferred or graduated after the first year. Outside of Wilson and Pearsall there was very little production in '23 and having to resort to play bad players like Kahleil Jackson and Thai Bowman. We had to go into the portal again for Dike and Badger. And we're having to do it again this year.

The room is a mess because of Mullen and Billy G recruiting and Napier having to play catch-up.

C'mon man you're reaching now. You talking about the Fraziers that was hurt at times this year, last year, the one who sat behind Shorter, Grimes and Copeland as TrF, behind Shorter and got injured, again in 2021. That Fraziers?

Or Burke the guy who was a Fr in 2021?


You think it's all BG's fault they haven’t emerged as consistent options since he returned?

Now it's his and Mullen's fault, yet you forget who was on the commitment list when Mullen was fired? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
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