My thoughts on Trump the politician

[kalimgoodman]

I have to admit that you guys were right about Trump's appeal to voters, Trump is an unicorn and once in a lifetime candidate (I hate to say that) like Obama was for the Dems. When Trump is on the ballot, Republicans can win and compete almost anywhere. When he is not, they are very beatable and struggle to win. So my suggestion to the R party is to, not follow the Dems and nominate the next in line candidate like they did with Hillary or Joe Biden. They need to find someone that inspires and can be a close to an unicorn. I have no idea who that will be for the Rs. I thought DeSantis but naw, he couldn't beat Haley. You guys tell me.

 

[Gator Fever]

I have to admit that you guys were right about Trump's appeal to voters, Trump is an unicorn and once in a lifetime candidate (I hate to say that) like Obama was for the Dems. When Trump is on the ballot, Republicans can win and compete almost anywhere. When he is not, they are very beatable and struggle to win. So my suggestion to the R party is to, not follow the Dems and nominate the next in line candidate like they did with Hillary or Joe Biden. They need to find someone that inspires and can be a close to an unicorn. I have no idea who that will be for the Rs. I thought DeSantis but naw, he couldn't beat Haley. You guys tell me.

Vance is the clear choice at this point. There is no other Trump out there. We just have to hope he can resist the real crooked GOPe characters some if he is the nominee. I think things would have to be pretty bad in 2028 for DeSantis to recover from his Trojan horse run in 2024.

 

[kalimgoodman]

Vance is the clear choice at this point. There is no other Trump out there. We just have to hope he can resist the real crooked GOPe characters some if he is the nominee. I think things would have to be pretty bad in 2028 for DeSantis to recover from his Trojan horse run in 2024.

VPs usually loses especially directly following their president. I think it will someone that we aren't thinking about right now. I do think running in 24 ruined DeSantis myself.

 

[Gator Fever]

VPs usually loses especially directly following their president. I think it will someone that we aren't thinking about right now. I do think running in 24 ruined DeSantis myself.

I think it's on the nominee mostly and how things are at the time. Gore barely lost but I think the country usually leans to change after an 8 year run. Bush Sr benefitted from facing a pretty bad candidate. Hard to see anyone beating Vance for the nomination unless things are pretty bad then I think. Trying to think how many times a sitting VP lost a primary.

 

[grandhavendiddy]

I have to admit that you guys were right about Trump's appeal to voters, Trump is an unicorn and once in a lifetime candidate (I hate to say that) like Obama was for the Dems. When Trump is on the ballot, Republicans can win and compete almost anywhere. When he is not, they are very beatable and struggle to win. So my suggestion to the R party is to, not follow the Dems and nominate the next in line candidate like they did with Hillary or Joe Biden. They need to find someone that inspires and can be a close to an unicorn. I have no idea who that will be for the Rs. I thought DeSantis but naw, he couldn't beat Haley. You guys tell me.

It's true. I have seen the same. as Suzy Wiles said recently, he has also matured and become more disciplined. He learned from 1.0 and all of the lawfare.

DeSantis ain't it.

I happen to like JD Vance a lot - guys is sharp and fearless on his feet. He is not Trump though.

It is very clear that downballot republicans are exceptionally beatable. They tend to be clumsy and boorish.

 

[GatorTheo]

DeSantis can recover.....not saying he will. There are multiple political lifetimes before the election.

 

[gatorspeed]

VPs usually loses especially directly following their president. I think it will someone that we aren't thinking about right now. I do think running in 24 ruined DeSantis myself.

JD is no where near Trump In appeal too voters, he would get smoked in an election

 

[Gator Fever]

DeSantis can recover.....not saying he will. There are multiple political lifetimes before the election.

The reason I don't think he could ever have a chance against Vance in 28 without things being bad (which would doom any Rep nominee in the general) is because he pissed off so many in the Trump base pulling that and his fan club is still pretty active on X trying to hurt Trump (curious if the GOPe crooks are still paying a lot of them). We will see in 2026 if DeSantis wife runs for Governor as that will piss the base off even more and my thought is would lead to her defeat by Byron Donalds or whoever Trump endorses. She supposedly was really pushing him to listen to those GOPe crooks in 2024 and to try and take Trump down and was all for it.

 

[Gator Fever]

JD is no where near Trump In appeal too voters, he would get smoked in an election

My guess is if things aren't bad then it would come down to whether he could pull WI or PA and that MI would probably be off the table. I think Vance would take GA and AZ for sure needing just one of those 2 northern ones.

 

[GatorTheo]

The reason I don't think he could ever have a chance against Vance in 28 without things being bad (which would doom any Rep nominee in the general) is because he pissed off so many in the Trump base pulling that and his fan club is still pretty active on X trying to hurt Trump (curious if the GOPe crooks are still paying a lot of them). We will see in 2026 if DeSantis wife runs for Governor as that will piss the base off even more and my thought is would lead to her defeat by Byron Donalds or whoever Trump endorses. She supposedly was really pushing him to listen to those GOPe crooks in 2024 and to try and take Trump down and was all for it.

It will depend on how the Trump administration is viewed at the time. If things are going well, Vance would have the advantage but it's possible that won't be the case.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

You guys aren't taking OP's troll bait. You are supposed to be telling him who will run in 2028 so OP can say they suck and get a fresh argument going.

Trump has already told us who is running in 2028: He is. /endthread.

 

[JimGaster]

DeSantis is okay.

Vance is a smiling savage! I’m 100% w JD!

 

[Gator Fever]

It will depend on how the Trump administration is viewed at the time. If things are going well, Vance would have the advantage but it's possible that won't be the case.

I think even if it was what a lot of people thought was so so then Vance is almost a lock. It would take things being clearly bad for anyone else to have a chance at the nomination. I don't think a sitting VP has ever lost a primary in more modern times 1960s on (I do think Harris might have though if that didn't play out the way it did). I think like Presidents without high approvals it would be pretty likely the VP still wins the nomination.

 

[GatorTheo]

I think even if it was what a lot of people thought was so so then Vance is almost a lock. It would take things being clearly bad for anyone else to have a chance at the nomination. I don't think a sitting VP has ever lost a primary in more modern times 1960s on (I do think Harris might have though if that didn't play out the way it did). I think like Presidents without high approvals it would be pretty likely the VP still wins the nomination.

Hopefully, it will be going so well Vance will be a 2-term President.

 

[fatman76]

VPs usually loses especially directly following their president. I think it will someone that we aren't thinking about right now. I do think running in 24 ruined DeSantis myself.

DeSantis is fine, he's just not presidential material.

He has a bobblehead and his voice is whiney and it sounds like it comes from his nose. Low information voters can only take in snapshots and sound bites, and he sucks at that.

He's a great Gov and perhaps Congressman someday.

Don't sleep on Vance. He's pretty special.

 

[fatman76]

You guys aren't taking OP's troll bait. You are supposed to be telling him who will run in 2028 so OP can say they suck and get a fresh argument going.

The MSM has already told us who is running in 2028: Trump is. /endthread.

FIFY

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

FIFY

That Trump/Elon ticket in 2028 gonna be lit.

BTW how many tears will Theo shed here if we amend the Constitution to let Trump run again, after we wouldn't amend it to protect him from inanimate objects?

 

[gatordad3]

It will depend on how the Trump administration is viewed at the time. If things are going well, Vance would have the advantage but it's possible that won't be the case.

As long as Vance doesn't pull some stunts the way Pence did.

 

[fatman76]

That Trump/Elon ticket in 2028 gonna be lit.

BTW how many tears will Theo shed here if we amend the Constitution to let Trump run again, after we wouldn't amend it to protect him from inanimate objects?

I don't think that's the angle for a 3rd term (which for the record I don't think he wants, he's just trolling the libs because they made this up to have something to clutch their pearls about).

The 22nd says "Elected". If Trump was, say, the VP pick for a Vance run...Vance could step down and Trump would assume office again.

In a way, he'd still have to win another election, so I don't think the dictator narrative would have teeth.

Again, this isn't going to happen but it's hilarious to watch him crush a fake scandal (Signal app) with another fake scandal.

 

[kalimgoodman]

DeSantis is fine, he's just not presidential material.

He has a bobblehead and his voice is whiney and it sounds like it comes from his nose. Low information voters can only take in snapshots and sound bites, and he sucks at that.

He's a great Gov and perhaps Congressman someday.

Don't sleep on Vance. He's pretty special.

Good stuff on DeSantis. I'm not sold on Vance, I always viewed him as fake but I appreciate your thoughts.

 

[NavigatorII]

The reason I don't think he could ever have a chance against Vance in 28 without things being bad (which would doom any Rep nominee in the general) is because he pissed off so many in the Trump base pulling that and his fan club is still pretty active on X trying to hurt Trump (curious if the GOPe crooks are still paying a lot of them). We will see in 2026 if DeSantis wife runs for Governor as that will piss the base off even more and my thought is would lead to her defeat by Byron Donalds or whoever Trump endorses. She supposedly was really pushing him to listen to those GOPe crooks in 2024 and to try and take Trump down and was all for it.

It's WAY to early to be talking about this. Vance was not a friend to Trump in 2016. The winds of political change swing swiftly. I like both Vance and DeSantis at this point, although I think DeSantis is more of a swamp creature than Vance. We'll see.

 

[GatorTheo]

That Trump/Elon ticket in 2028 gonna be lit.

BTW how many tears will Theo shed here if we amend the Constitution to let Trump run again, after we wouldn't amend it to protect him from inanimate objects?

Funny to see a gun nut break character and suggest amending their beloved constitution. 🤣

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Funny to see a gun nut break character and suggest amending their beloved constitution. 🤣

You could do the same thing at any time. All you have to do is find and support candidates that propose running government in the way you want to see it run.

That's what we have done. You are too lazy for that, and would rather stay on your porch and cry about how others gave you the government you don't want.

 

[fatman76]

Good stuff on DeSantis. I'm not sold on Vance, I always viewed him as fake but I appreciate your thoughts.

Guy should be on the streets given his terrible home life growing up.

Instead he didn't make excuses and is one of the more successful people in the country.

And he's extremely smart.

He has all of the tools if being President is what he wants, and he's much more polished than Trump.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Guy should be on the streets given his terrible home life growing up.

Instead he didn't make excuses and is one of the more successful people in the country.

And he's extremely smart.

He has all of the tools if being President is what he wants, and he's much more polished than Trump.

First of all, everything I've seen so far from Vance has been stellar.

However...we don't know how he is going to act once Trump is out of the picture. Maybe he will continue on as he is now, maybe he will revert back to how he was before Trump. Unfortunately, DeSantis and Pence both were studs as long as they were tied to Trump. The second that ended, they flipped back in bed with the establishment.

Maybe Vance won't. Maybe Rubio won't. But the reality is, we just don't know and won't know till Trump is out of the picture.

 

[fatman76]

First of all, everything I've seen so far from Vance has been stellar.

However...we don't know how he is going to act once Trump is out of the picture. Maybe he will continue on as he is now, maybe he will revert back to how he was before Trump. Unfortunately, DeSantis and Pence both were studs as long as they were tied to Trump. The second that ended, they flipped back in bed with the establishment.

Maybe Vance won't. Maybe Rubio won't. But the reality is, we just don't know and won't know till Trump is out of the picture.

I think the mistake is to expect anyone to match Trump.

He's unique in his financial situation, experience set and personality traits.

He's also not a true Conservative, I think Vance is...not good or bad, just my opinion. I heard he's considering a tax increase on the top 1%. I'd love to see the Left spin that into a negative.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

I think the mistake is to expect anyone to match Trump.

He's unique in his financial situation, experience set and personality traits.

He's also not a true Conservative, I think Vance is...not good or bad, just my opinion. I heard he's considering a tax increase on the top 1%. I'd love to see the Left spin that into a negative.

I'm far more worried about the establishment getting leverage over these guys. They can;t with ppl like Trump and Elon, but they absolutely can with career politicians like Pence, DeSantis, Rubio and yes, likely Vance.

Doesn't mean it will happen, but its something I am concerned about.

 

[gatorspeed]

Funny to see a gun nut break character and suggest amending their beloved constitution. 🤣

Wait til the mid terms hit, you won’t hear a peep outta that goofball ghost, I put the rubber acorn on ignore, you should ask him how his retirement looks

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Wait til the mid terms hit, you won’t hear a peep outta that goofball ghost, I put the rubber acorn on ignore, you should ask him how his retirement looks

Scared money don't make no money. Your $500 will be fine.

 

[GatorTheo]

Wait til the mid terms hit, you won’t hear a peep outta that goofball ghost, I put the rubber acorn on ignore, you should ask him how his retirement looks

I still hold out hope that we'll see some positive results by the midterms.

 

[gatordad3]

Wait til the mid terms hit, you won’t hear a peep outta that goofball ghost, I put the rubber acorn on ignore, you should ask him how his retirement looks

That's what you said back on November, Kalim.

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[jsfgators]

I’m not endorsing the idea, but if he remains loyal, Lil’ Marco could have a head full of steam in 2028. If he’s loyal to MAGA, and he is a spearhead to Trump’s peace agenda he could be tough.

 

[kalimgoodman]

Guy should be on the streets given his terrible home life growing up.

Instead he didn't make excuses and is one of the more successful people in the country.

And he's extremely smart.

He has all of the tools if being President is what he wants, and he's much more polished than Trump.

I agree that he's extremely smart.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

I’m not endorsing the idea, but if he remains loyal, Lil’ Marco could have a head full of steam in 2028. If he’s loyal to MAGA, and he is a spearhead to Trump’s peace agenda he could be tough.

I hear you on Rubio. Not endorsing either, like Vance taking wait and see approach.

 

[FresnoGator]

DeSantis is fine, he's just not presidential material.

He has a bobblehead and his voice is whiney and it sounds like it comes from his nose. Low information voters can only take in snapshots and sound bites, and he sucks at that.

He's a great Gov and perhaps Congressman someday.

Don't sleep on Vance. He's pretty special.

Agree, he's an assassin. He will run on his record or if necessary reinvent himself.

I see DeSantis as a career senator, one of the pillars of the senate after his gov gig ...

 

[gatorspeed]

Scared money don't make no money. Your $500 will be fine.

Your stupid 💯

 

[mhillier13]

Your stupid 💯

How ironic

 

[treygator29]

Funny to see a gun nut break character and suggest amending their beloved constitution. 🤣

Touché. lol

 

[treygator29]

I'm far more worried about the establishment getting leverage over these guys. They can;t with ppl like Trump and Elon, but they absolutely can with career politicians like Pence, DeSantis, Rubio and yes, likely Vance.

Doesn't mean it will happen, but its something I am concerned about.

Good point. People like Musk and Trump will be ok if their political careers fail. And operate as such. Others don’t have that luxury. They have to bend to a certain degree

 

[treygator29]

Wait til the mid terms hit, you won’t hear a peep outta that goofball ghost, I put the rubber acorn on ignore, you should ask him how his retirement looks

How do you know what he said, or are you just assuming based on past posts? Literally only a question and nothing more