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Look for that stuff to happen at your school as well at some point. Title IX does that you know. BTW, FSU got off much better than they would have taking it to trial and winning due to legal costs, but hey facts are confusing to some.
BTW, they got off much cheaper than losing, but hey, facts are ignored by some...
 
Don't you think Cervone deserved it? I think he was and still is a great supporter of your team. I think he is also on the UF payroll isn't he? No conflict of interest there of course. Nah.
Wait, I thought Willie Meggs was on the UF payroll, you know Willie, lifelong Gator fan who makes huge donations to the Gator program. BTW, the ring story was fabricated, same as the Gatorade story by the same people that also said the suspect was 5'6, you remember those people?
 
Wait, I thought Willie Meggs was on the UF payroll, you know Willie, lifelong Gator fan who makes huge donations to the Gator program. BTW, the ring story was fabricated, same as the Gatorade story by the same people that also said the suspect was 5'6, you remember those people?
You are confusing Willie with Bill. Willie prosecutes FSU players all the time (Dalvin Cook, Travis Johnson). Trouble is ole Willie can't get any evidence and the two players I just mentioned were acquitted in under 30 minutes by a jury. The ring story is true and is in Cervone's office. The person who said the suspect was 5'6 was Erica and I agree with you that she was lying.
 
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The only thing we know for a FACT is that fsu handed over $1m so that nobody would find out. The other is just your opinion.
Find out what? It is just your opinion that FSU settled because they were guilty. A more thoughtful idea is that if FSU WAS guilty it never would have gone to trial and they would have paid up front. The other fact is that Kinsman agreed to the settlement the day before her deposition under OATH. Funny that. Oh, just a coinky dink.:rolleyes:
 
You are confusing Willie with Bill. Willie prosecutes FSU players all the time (Dalvin Cook, Travis Johnson). Trouble is ole Willie can't get any evidence and the two players I just mentioned were acquitted in under 30 minutes by a jury. The ring story is true and is in Cervone's office. The person who said the suspect was 5'6 was Erica and Iwith you that she was lying.
Oh, that's right, Cervone has never prosecuted a Gator player.....Erica never said that. What next, you going to tell me about those nolie basketball national championships?
 
Find out what? It is just your opinion that FSU settled because they were guilty. A more thoughtful idea is that if FSU WAS guilty it never would have gone to trial and they would have paid up front. The other fact is that Kinsman agreed to the settlement the day before her deposition under OATH. Funny that. Oh, just a coinky dink.:rolleyes:[/QUOTE
Funny that, you mean the nolie admins that were piping off about how they had done nothing wrong for days leading up and then suddenly handed over $1m? Is that what you mean? Wow, hey, OJ was innocent too.
 
Oh, that's right, Cervone has never prosecuted a Gator player.....Erica never said that. What next, you going to tell me about those nolie basketball national championships?
ROFL, no he doesn't do many that is true. Erica did say that. You should read more.
 
No, I think the Kinsman's wanted more but when she was going under oath they decided to strike a deal. Her lawyers made out very well.
 
Find out what? It is just your opinion that FSU settled because they were guilty. A more thoughtful idea is that if FSU WAS guilty it never would have gone to trial and they would have paid up front. The other fact is that Kinsman agreed to the settlement the day before her deposition under OATH. Funny that. Oh, just a coinky dink.:rolleyes:

Yeah yeah... Crab legs were an honest mistake, getting kicked out of Burger King didn't really happen, and BB gun fights were part of the leasing agreement. Nothing to see here... Move along.
 
ROFL, no he doesn't do many that is true. Erica did say that. You should read more.
Maybe Angulo admitting he did not handle the case correctly or the FSU admin who admitted that the system is set up to protect athletes helped fsu make the decision to settle? Maybe that had something to do with it?
 
Yeah yeah... Crab legs were an honest mistake, getting kicked out of Burger King didn't really happen, and BB gun fights were part of the leasing agreement. Nothing to see here... Move along.
Crab legs? BB guns? Soda in BB King? LMFAO

What about murder, firing an AK in an apartment building, beating up guys in clubs? Now that's real crime there!
 
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Maybe Angulo admitting he did not handle the case correctly or the FSU admin who admitted that the system is set up to protect athletes helped fsu make the decision to settle? Maybe that had something to do with it?
Argulo admitted no such thing and it would have no relevance to the FSU case anyway. The former admin did not say that either. Where do you get this stuff? Quit reading these boards or attention grabbing headlines and look at some real documents. Don't embarrass yourself.
 
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Yeah I think "Jamie" number one draft choice and Rookie of the Year is doing quite well. Looking forward to her depo under oath.
 
Let me help you out. Every investigation ever done has missteps or mistakes. That does not mean the entire investigation was botched or mishandled or covered up. Otherwise all investigations are tainted. Do yourself a favor and read his depo. He did not cover up or in any other way impede or not investigate the accusation. You are reading a headline. Also, as I noted above what TPD did or did not do had no relation whatsoever to the FSU suit. Some more ed for you.
 
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Let me help you out. Every investigation ever done has missteps or mistakes. That does not mean the entire investigation was botched or mishandled. Otherwise all investigations are tainted. Do yourself a favor and read his depo. He did not cover up or in any other way impede or not investigate the accusation. You are reading a headline. Also, as I noted above what TPD did or did not do had no relation whatsoever to the FSU suit. Some more ed for you.
Let me help you out, first you told me that "he admitted no such thing". Then I show you proof that he did. Now you backtrack. Do yourself a favor and just say when something is your opinion and stop trying to pawn it off as fact. You are looking very foolish.
 
Show me one quote from Ms. Ashton where she said "the system is set up to protect athletes" at FSU as you allege she did. Reading is fundamental.

Oh, and many of the statistics she quoted did not involve athletes at all.
I give you the article and you still try to protect the lie....you are special.
 
Let me help you out, first you told me that "he admitted no such thing". Then I show you proof that he did. Now you backtrack. Do yourself a favor and just say when something is your opinion and stop trying to pawn it off as fact. You are looking very foolish.
No you said he admitted to not handling the case correctly and he never said that. He admitted to some procedural mistakes (as happen in all investigations) but did not say what you quoted. Facts are stubborn. And again, to educate you some more, TPD had nothing to do with Kinsman's suit against FSU. I'm glad to help you out.
 
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This thread was started to discuss UTs problems.

You FSU fans run along to the other threads about your program please
 
No you said he admitted to not handling the case correctly and he never said that. He admitted to some procedural mistakes (as happen in all investigations) but did not say what you quoted. Facts are stubborn. And again, to educate you some more, TPD had nothing to do with Kinsman's suit against FSU. I'm glad to help you out.
Again, so is it possible, given all of this, pieces of the case weren't handled correctly, fsu admin saying the system is set up to favor the players, played into the reason fsu setteled?
 
Again, so is it possible, given all of this, pieces of the case weren't handled correctly, fsu admin saying the system is set up to favor the players, played into the reason fsu setteled?
I am not sure why this is so hard for you. TPD's actions or lack thereof have nothing to do with this case. TPD is not subject to Title IX nor are they a part of FSU.

The FSU admin did not say the system is set up to favor players so no it did not factor in.

What did factor in was that the costs to take it to trial and win were more than the settlement by a factor of 2. Smart folk in an institution say, cut your losses and pay the settlement. Most of which the lawyers got. QED.
 
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All you have to do is read the headline?? It means the same damn thing you dumbass. Are you really this stupid???? By the way, it's a rhetorical question.
Headlines aren't quotes and even the headline does not say the system at FSU is set up to favor players. I would ask yourself that rhetorical question. But then that would be redundant.
 
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Why can't FSU fans post on their own website? The ones who post on this one come across as idiots and just take the thread away from its original intent. From what I read and hear, UT may be heading for major trouble. The original reaction of most universities anytime accusations are made is to circle the wagons and protect their turf at all costs. It takes time to sort through the BS and get to the facts of what really happened. And when those investigating and making decisions about whether or not to pursue the case have a bias one way or another, the outcome can be skewed. I hate to see innocent men falsely drug through the mud. But at the same time, if the accusers are being truthful, the guilty should be severely punished. And that's my position regardless of which university or program is involved.
 
TPD was lazy in their investigation likely due to not believing the accuser's story. They asked a few questions, emailed/called the cab company, and collected evidence for the rape kit. To our knowledge the rape kit was handled properly by the medical professionals, which was inconclusive for rape and negative for drugs/excess alcohol.

FSU AD knew about the incident and failed to report it. That's where they really messed up.

So, in summary the whole HUGE CONSPIRACY is that more could have been done by TPD in way of an investigation (Pottbelly's video surveillance could have been pulled, players could have been interviewed, etc.) and the member(s) in the FSU AD should have notified the FSU Admin. Once chit hit the fan, FSU did everything they could to rectify the situation as did TPD and the DA's office.

That's it. That's the HUGE CONSPIRACY and by.the.book EK (despite being the liar she is) deserved due process and fair/equal treatment under the law. Her lawyers know she has NO CASE, BUT they can still hold FSU by the balls because of the early onset failures under Title IX.

THAT is why they paid the 1 mil...to make this go away because it's just no longer worth it.

Why is this so hard for people to comprehend?
 
Headlines aren't quotes and even the headline does not say the system at FSU is set up to favor players. I would ask yourself that rhetorical question. But then that would be redundant.

It's ok, I see now, you really are that stupid. So what does she mean then? I can't wait for this..
 
I am not sure why this is so hard for you. TPD's actions or lack thereof have nothing to do with this case. TPD is not subject to Title IX nor are they a part of FSU.

The FSU admin did not say the system is set up to favor players so no it did not factor in.

What did factor in was that the costs to take it to trial and win were more than the settlement by a factor of 2. Smart folk in an institution say, cut your losses and pay the settlement. Most of which the lawyers got. QED.
None of this is true.
TPD was lazy in their investigation likely due to not believing the accuser's story. They asked a few questions, emailed/called the cab company, and collected evidence for the rape kit. To our knowledge the rape kit was handled properly by the medical professionals, which was inconclusive for rape and negative for drugs/excess alcohol.

FSU AD knew about the incident and failed to report it. That's where they really messed up.

So, in summary the whole HUGE CONSPIRACY is that more could have been done by TPD in way of an investigation (Pottbelly's video surveillance could have been pulled, players could have been interviewed, etc.) and the member(s) in the FSU AD should have notified the FSU Admin. Once chit hit the fan, FSU did everything they could to rectify the situation as did TPD and the DA's office.

That's it. That's the HUGE CONSPIRACY and by.the.book EK (despite being the liar she is) deserved due process and fair/equal treatment under the law. Her lawyers know she has NO CASE, BUT they can still hold FSU by the balls because of the early onset failures under Title IX.

THAT is why they paid the 1 mil...to make this go away because it's just no longer worth it.

Why is this so hard for people to comprehend?

You and rentech aren't on the same page with this. You need to regroup with him.
 
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