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Louisville Offensive starters compared to ours? What is the issue?

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Gator Fever

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We have 6 blue chippers (4 or 5 star Rival recruits) starting on offense and Louisville only has 2 blue chippers starting on offense.

Our offensive line has a 5 star and a 4 star blue chip recruit starting on it. Louisville's offensive line has a walk on starting at center and the rest are 3 star recruits.

We have 3 sophomores starting on the O line and Louisville has 2 sophomores plus that walk on starting on the O line.

Louisville has a 2 star transfer starting at WR. We have no 2 stars starting on our offense.
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I know we have to wait and see how they do on offense against FSU etc. but what is our excuse on offense against lowly UMass?
 
1. Petrino is an offensive whiz and one of the best coaches in the country. Has taken two mediocre programs to BCS games. Pretty sure Meyer, Saban, and Rich Rod are the only other coaches to do that. His system is probably the closest to Spurrier's old fun n' gun today.

2. Jackson. An elite dual-threat QB in college is like having a cheat code. Defenses aren't sophisticated enough to contain em.

We knew missing out on Francois and Jackson hurt at the time. Not really Mac's fault he had basically two months to flip those guys. But now with hindsight and after losing Grier those losses now look kinda program defining. If we had Francois or Lamar Jackson right now with our defense we're playoff caliber. Of course they'd still take a beatin behind this line.
 
I don't really follow your point Fever, everyone knows Petrino is a great offensive mind. UofL chose to overlook the indiscretions and are now reaping the rewards.

UofL will never consistently get blue chippers, but for guys like Petrino(offense) and Saban(defense) a 3 star might as well be a 5. They can coach them up better than any coach in the country at their respective positions.
 
oozie7 said:
1. Petrino is an offensive whiz and one of the best coaches in the country. Has taken two mediocre programs to BCS games. Pretty sure Meyer, Saban, and Rich Rod are the only other coaches to do that. His system is probably the closest to Spurrier's old fun n' gun today.

2. Jackson. An elite dual-threat QB in college is like having a cheat code. Defenses aren't sophisticated enough to contain em.

We knew missing out on Francois and Jackson hurt at the time. Not really Mac's fault he had basically two months to flip those guys. But now with hindsight and after losing Grier those losses now look kinda program defining. If we had Francois or Lamar Jackson right now with our defense we're playoff caliber. Of course they'd still take a beatin behind this line.
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Sometimes I think the O line problem is just a little exaggerated when it comes to this anyway. Watching the replay in the 2nd half we had about the same time to pass you see in most SEC games (didn't have the breakdowns with Ivey not picking up guys like in the first half) yet we just dinked and dunked anyway. Louisville has a much less talented O line on paper than us and its not even close. They also are similarly inexperienced on the O line.

No doubt the QB is a huge issue in college ball and maybe one issue we just don't want to admit that has not been taken care of. That still doesn't account for a joke performance against UMass however. The jury is still out and KY will tell us more on that. It is just so frustrating these past 5+ years seeing so many less talented teams on paper produce good functional offenses.
 
ifuaintagatorumustbegatorbait said:
I don't really follow your point Fever, everyone knows Petrino is a great offensive mind. UofL chose to overlook the indiscretions and are now reaping the rewards.

UofL will never consistently get blue chippers, but for guys like Petrino(offense) and Saban(defense) a 3 star might as well be a 5. They can coach them up better than any coach in the country at their respective positions.
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Yep Petrino is a real good offensive mind but it just frustrates me having these poor offenses (hopefully that changes permanently this week) year after year. Mac's QB put up crazy good numbers at CSU and it just makes me shake my head we cant even blow out a UMass.
 
Agreed. We should be able to put up points today so it would be concerning if they don't. Didn't know this but we've only scored 30 points or more 3 times under Mac so far. And two of those were against ECU and New Mexico St. Have also gone 10 straight games without scoring 30 and that hadn't happened since 1989. We need a spark from somewhere to get out of this funk it's just been way too long.
 
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sadgator said:
Some guys just know how to adapt and work with what they've got. Petrino is one of those guys.

sadgator thought Mac was one of those guys too, but is beginning to doubt it. Today will tell us quite a bit. ISO this is a huge game for the outlook of our program under Mac.
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I'm also starting to wonder. Some coaches you know are just going to out scheme their opposition and have guys running loose. Houston ran two plays last week near the end zone where guys just ended up walking in, nobody within five yards. I also thought we were getting one of those guys, but our offense looks pretty run of the mill to me so far. It could be that what Mac runs is more traditional, but he just gets his guys to really execute and that will just take some time.
 
bradleygator said:
I'm also starting to wonder. Some coaches you know are just going to out scheme their opposition and have guys running loose. Houston ran two plays last week near the end zone where guys just ended up walking in, nobody within five yards. I also thought we were getting one of those guys, but our offense looks pretty run of the mill to me so far. It could be that what Mac runs is more traditional, but he just gets his guys to really execute and that will just take some time.
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Good point. The only game I really thought Mac had the defense on their toes (excluding total cupcakes) with the scheming was that Ole Miss game last season. The Tenn game was just basically on the fly in that 4th quarter after not doing much at all earlier and even in the Missouri game after Ole Miss we weren't out scheming anyone and looked pedestrian again on offense. I am holding out hope that changes today with the poor defense we will be facing.
 
bradleygator said:
I'm also starting to wonder. Some coaches you know are just going to out scheme their opposition and have guys running loose. Houston ran two plays last week near the end zone where guys just ended up walking in, nobody within five yards. I also thought we were getting one of those guys, but our offense looks pretty run of the mill to me so far. It could be that what Mac runs is more traditional, but he just gets his guys to really execute and that will just take some time.
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We are definitely more traditional from a scheme standpoint. It's kinda ironic because we were on the cutting edge with Spurrier and Meyer. And now with the rules favoring offense and everyone going wide open and tempo we're going backwards and operatimg from more traditional sets. Hell even Saban is going tempo offense.
 
Dannygator1989 said:
What formations would you like us to lineup in?
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Formations aren't the issue as much as it is things like pace. We go tempo at times but the majority of the time we slowly huddle up which really doesn't do anything except give the defense a chance to rest and make subs to match our formations. And if you watch our plays closely we almost always run out of 2 TE sets from pistol. We have about 3 base run plays.
 
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