Just 2 years ago UF basketball was ranked #1
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Planned maybe?
The easy way to get out of town is to go downhill in a hurry.
BillyD made it easy for himself to finally exit Gainesville for the NBA,
unlike the chit-storm that occurred when he tried to leave after his 2nd NC.
He really was tired of G'ville/College, and was ready to move on.
After that 2014-15 loser season, most Gator fans were ready to let him.
Note: Foley is an absolutely terrible AD. And that's why UF has the NCAA Record for Consecutive (32) years to finish in the Top 10 in the National All Sports rankings....
And since we're talking STUDENT/athletes at UF:
UF not only leads the SEC, they are in the Top-10 National rankings in Academic All-Americans.
The easy way to get out of town is to go downhill in a hurry.
BillyD made it easy for himself to finally exit Gainesville for the NBA,
unlike the chit-storm that occurred when he tried to leave after his 2nd NC.
He really was tired of G'ville/College, and was ready to move on.
After that 2014-15 loser season, most Gator fans were ready to let him.
Note: Foley is an absolutely terrible AD. And that's why UF has the NCAA Record for Consecutive (32) years to finish in the Top 10 in the National All Sports rankings....
And since we're talking STUDENT/athletes at UF:
UF not only leads the SEC, they are in the Top-10 National rankings in Academic All-Americans.
Patric Young, Wilbekin and Prather graduated. It's pretty rare that a big-conference team relies on Seniors to the extent that that team did. People were on here calling Young a bum for the three years prior, so sometimes it just takes time. Kasey Hill might average 15 and 8 next year and take us to the Sweet 16 and everyone will be on here wondering why we can't bring in more like him.
As far as our national "all sport" ranking, how hard do you think it is to bring in great: swimmers, track and field athletes, field hockey players, etc..., as a very well-funded flagship university in a state with good academics, year round great weather and a large and growing population? Football, basketball and to a lesser extent baseball is where the competition is.
As far as our national "all sport" ranking, how hard do you think it is to bring in great: swimmers, track and field athletes, field hockey players, etc..., as a very well-funded flagship university in a state with good academics, year round great weather and a large and growing population? Football, basketball and to a lesser extent baseball is where the competition is.
See FSU, Miami, UGA, LSU, UA, USC, UCLA, Stanford, Tx, as they all have similar advantages to those that you listed.
It's very easy in your mind apparently, for any Gator coach to being in great athletes.
No need to even recruit, they just take their pick among the ones that beg to be Gators.
Only question that bring up for me is; why don't we win NC's every year in all of those other sports?
Now, to confirm that, could you list the All Sport rankings for FSUcks, scUM over the last 32 years for us. I won't even ask about the other FL-D1's - USF, UCF, FL-Atl, and FL-Int, or all of those other schools with similar advantages....
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JFYI
#1 Baseball 31 Total
FL = 25
One each from - Iowa, TX, NC, PA, Md, Minn.
List CWS Championships for UF, FSU & Miami.
#1 UF Softball (by state)
Total of 19 on the Roster
Players from:
FL = 8 (less than 1/2 from FL)
CA = 7
One each from - Kan, Tx, NY, GA
#3 Lacrosse 35 Total
FL = 3 (less than 10% from FL)
MD = 16
NY = 10
One each from - NJ, Tx, Conn, VA, PA, Mass
Men's Swimming and Diving 35 Total
FL = 13
The rest are from all over the US & World.
Women's Swimming & Diving 29 Total
FL = 14
The rest are from all over the US & World
Men's Track & Field 52 Total
FL = 37
The rest (15) are from all over the US & World
Women's Track & Field 41 Total
FL = 24
The rest (17) are from all over the US & World
Downplaying UF's 32 Consecutive Top 10 finishes for the All Sports Award is imo, doing a disservice to Foley and to all of the Gator coaches that are outside of the men's Big 3.
Also, UF is doing it with just 18 of the allowed 20 sports (10 men's & 10 women's) for the combined points total (8 men's & 10 women's).
Alabama -- Phootball Factory
Kentucky - B-Ball Factory
Vanderbilt - Private Academic Factory
Florida - The most total SEC-C's and the most Academic All Americans.
It is true that we lost a special group of guys with the 2014 basketball team. But behind them Billy D had recruited some very highly-rated kids - Kasey Hill was a consensus 5 star McDonald's AA, Devin Robinson was a 4-5 star, Chiozza a solid 4 star and Francis-Ramirez a 4-5 star, plus he had a highly rated Finney-Smith transferring in from Va. Tech and Egbunu from USF. What appears to have happened is that this new crop was either overrated or they haven't gelled as a team the way the guys before them did. As for the other issue being discussed on this board, I, as a Gator alumni, am extremely proud of the job Jeremy Foley has done in running a highly ethical program while insisting on excellence from all of the programs. He was at the forefront of upgrading women's athletics and the fact that we are an elite school in regards to Academic All Americans as well as having one of the absolute best athletic programs in the nation year after year is a source of great pride. I understand that football is the engine that drives the train, but those other athletes put in just as much time and effort and they consistently represent the University of Florida in an exemplary manner. What has been done with our lacrosse program is truly amazing and the quality of our track & field, swimming & diving, tennis, gymnastics, baseball and softball teams should make all Gators very, very proud.
See FSU, Miami, UGA, LSU, UA, USC, UCLA, Stanford, Tx, as they all have similar advantages to those that you listed.
It's very easy in your mind apparently, for any Gator coach to being in great athletes.
No need to even recruit, they just take their pick among the ones that beg to be Gators.
Only question that bring up for me is; why don't we win NC's every year in all of those other sports?
Now, to confirm that, could you list the All Sport rankings for FSUcks, scUM over the last 32 years for us. I won't even ask about the other FL-D1's - USF, UCF, FL-Atl, and FL-Int, or all of those other schools with similar advantages....
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JFYI
#1 Baseball 31 Total
FL = 25
One each from - Iowa, TX, NC, PA, Md, Minn.
List CWS Championships for UF, FSU & Miami.
#1 UF Softball (by state)
Total of 19 on the Roster
Players from:
FL = 8 (less than 1/2 from FL)
CA = 7
One each from - Kan, Tx, NY, GA
#3 Lacrosse 35 Total
FL = 3 (less than 10% from FL)
MD = 16
NY = 10
One each from - NJ, Tx, Conn, VA, PA, Mass
Men's Swimming and Diving 35 Total
FL = 13
The rest are from all over the US & World.
Women's Swimming & Diving 29 Total
FL = 14
The rest are from all over the US & World
Men's Track & Field 52 Total
FL = 37
The rest (15) are from all over the US & World
Women's Track & Field 41 Total
FL = 24
The rest (17) are from all over the US & World
Downplaying UF's 32 Consecutive Top 10 finishes for the All Sports Award is imo, doing a disservice to Foley and to all of the Gator coaches that are outside of the men's Big 3.
Also, UF is doing it with just 18 of the allowed 20 sports (10 men's & 10 women's) for the combined points total (8 men's & 10 women's).
Alabama -- Phootball Factory
Kentucky - B-Ball Factory
Vanderbilt - Private Academic Factory
Florida - The most total SEC-C's and the most Academic All Americans.
You have an odd definition of flagship, and of good academics.
Texas is the only other school on that list that has both
Planned maybe?
The easy way to get out of town is to go downhill in a hurry.
BillyD made it easy for himself to finally exit Gainesville for the NBA,
unlike the chit-storm that occurred when he tried to leave after his 2nd NC.
He really was tired of G'ville/College, and was ready to move on.
After that 2014-15 loser season, most Gator fans were ready to let him.
Note: Foley is an absolutely terrible AD. And that's why UF has the NCAA Record for Consecutive (32) years to finish in the Top 10 in the National All Sports rankings....
And since we're talking STUDENT/athletes at UF:
UF not only leads the SEC, they are in the Top-10 National rankings in Academic All-Americans.
BD Jr also graduated last year.
You forgot about Walker and how bad that turned out. Foley has done a fantastic job as AD. Less than a decade ago we had 4 titles in FB and BB within 5 years. BB and FB in one year and that has not been duplicated. 99% of the other major colllegs have not even smelled our success in the 21 century. But with our fans it is what have you done lately
As recently as ONE YEAR AGO,,, BillyD led his last Gator team to a 16-17 LOSER record.
Mike White took that core team, added his recruits, and he has exceeded that win total in just his 1st season. Not where Gator fans expect and want to be, but he's definitely headed in the right direction.
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There are currently 111 NCAA Division I women's lacrosse programs.
#8 Florida, beat Loyola by 9 points. (Loyola was out of the Top 20 but was receiving votes)
Then #7 UF stepped up and beat then #2 N.Caorlina @ Chapel Hill, 16-15. (NC is currently #5 and they were the Natl. Runner-up in 2015)
On Monday Mar. 1st, #3 UF beat #2 Syracuse @ the Carrier Dome, 11-10 in OT. (only 1 opponent has won in the Dome over the last 2 years,,, Florida)
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2016 Gator Lacrosse:
Exhibition: L - UF 8 - 19 U.S. National Team (breaking in all of the new Fr right)
W - #8 UF 15 - 6 Loyola (receiving Top 20 votes)
W - #7 UF 12 - 11 Mich
Exhibition: W - UF 16 - 5 Wales Nation Team
W - #7 UF 16 - 15 @ #2 N.Carolina (NC is currently #5)
W - UF 16 - 6 Dartmouth (receiving Top 20 votes)
W - #3 UF 11 - 10 @ #2 Syracuse in OT
UP next is NR Niagara, and then the rest of the MONSTER March schedule:
On 3-6-16, @ #8 Stony Brook, then #15 BC on 3-11-16, and #17 Towson on 3-14-16.
Their biggest test so far will come on 3-19-16 when they play @ #1 Maryland.
Keeee-rist!!!
What maniac set up the Gator Lacrosse schedule???
Mike White took that core team, added his recruits, and he has exceeded that win total in just his 1st season.
Not where Gator fans expect and want to be, but he's definitely headed in the right direction.==============
There are currently 111 NCAA Division I women's lacrosse programs.
#8 Florida, beat Loyola by 9 points. (Loyola was out of the Top 20 but was receiving votes)
Then #7 UF stepped up and beat then #2 N.Caorlina @ Chapel Hill, 16-15. (NC is currently #5 and they were the Natl. Runner-up in 2015)
On Monday Mar. 1st, #3 UF beat #2 Syracuse @ the Carrier Dome, 11-10 in OT. (only 1 opponent has won in the Dome over the last 2 years,,, Florida)
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2016 Gator Lacrosse:
Exhibition: L - UF 8 - 19 U.S. National Team (breaking in all of the new Fr right)
W - #8 UF 15 - 6 Loyola (receiving Top 20 votes)
W - #7 UF 12 - 11 Mich
Exhibition: W - UF 16 - 5 Wales Nation Team
W - #7 UF 16 - 15 @ #2 N.Carolina (NC is currently #5)
W - UF 16 - 6 Dartmouth (receiving Top 20 votes)
W - #3 UF 11 - 10 @ #2 Syracuse in OT
UP next is NR Niagara, and then the rest of the MONSTER March schedule:
On 3-6-16, @ #8 Stony Brook, then #15 BC on 3-11-16, and #17 Towson on 3-14-16.
Their biggest test so far will come on 3-19-16 when they play @ #1 Maryland.
Keeee-rist!!!
And just one year ago they were 16-17 with the same coach they were #1 with, so what's your point?
Football and basketball have fallen from their once lofty positions and I'm hoping both new coaches can get us back up to where we need to be. The University of Florida is one of the GREAT athletic programs in the country and has been for a long time. There is no excuse for the 2 most prominent sports not being among the nation's best.
Things happen. The sun does not shine on one dog's behind all the time. I am hopeful and optimistic as always.
