Jumping Ship?

[KingofHedgehogs]

So you feel like you know more than Napier, without any idea of him or his plans, but were totally on board with Mullen, who PROVED he had no idea how to handle a coaching staff by retaining and defending the worst DC in college football, and also being totally on board with the ACTUAL worst DC in college football.

Instalogic. You gotta love it.

He's also suggested that a coaching hire from the AD should not be questioned because we are just mere fans(though he still does it), such cases of Mullen and White. Well if a person trusts the AD that much, than they should not only trust the choice of the HC, but the coaches that work under the HC.

It's all or nothing, unless you're insta.

 

[LizardGrad89]

Problem with it is you aren't usually going to get players that are really SEC dominant except at QB here and there. We did get that pass rusher a few years back but the norm I think will be basic SEC starter most times like we got with the current DT transfers. Blue chippers that didn't get the nod early at their current schools and a few grad transfers. I guess I may be underestimating getting top players with this from head coaching changes.

Agreed. Real difference makers will be rare. A lot of them will be guys who were in the wrong scheme, got stuck in a numbers game, or just didn't like where they were (homesick). This is why IMO you look first at guys who had the recruiting accolades and were from Florida but went out of state. I feel like your best shot at getting a guy who is going to blossom is the homesick kid. I just feel like a 4-5 star kid from, say, Colorado, who went to OSU and now wants to come to Florida is less likely to be someone ready to blossom and more likely to be someone who is just a prima donna looking to be treated like a king. Going to a school where you have no ties than moving to a different school where you have no ties just smells a bit funny to me. But as I said, that's just IMO and a general concept. I certainly will support and believe in any player CBN feels good enough about to offer.

 

[LizardGrad89]

He's also suggested that a coaching hire from the AD should not be questioned because we are just mere fans(though he still does it), such cases of Mullen and White. Well if a person trusts the AD that much, than they should not only trust the choice of the HC, but the coaches that work under the HC.

It's all or nothing, unless you're insta.

This. @instaGATOR has no principles, or if he has them he doesn't show them here. He just likes to take a position contrary to the majority of the board so he can argue with and insult people. The saddest part of this is how lousy his insulting skills are. I really don't know why he bothers, all he manages to do is showcase his lack of skill with the English language.

 

[Jeff from Jax]

I can respect that approach, one of patience and confidence.....not panic and fear. This also gives him more availability for the next class.

King,

I am not an expert on scholarship math.

This quote is old & I don't know if its true -

"I know Bama has at times back counted more than the usual amount by retroactively revoking scholarships after the season was over and making the kids pay back the tuition money. Not sure if anyone else does this."
https://www.secrant.com/rant/sec-re...ed-back-to-the-previous-years-class/51301482/

I don't know if there is a limit to the number of early entry recruits that you can count back to the prior class.

I assume that we will have a small recruiting class & that someone will do the math & post it.

I believe the SEC limit of 25 counters/ new scholarship players (?) in any one year is still in force.

How soon the NCAA will return to the 85 player total limit is anyone's guess.

Quality vs quantity; I would rather hold onto the ships than waste them on non SEC caliber players & then have to force them to transfer; gives us a huge PR blackeye.

 

[KingofHedgehogs]

King,

I am not an expert on scholarship math.

This quote is old & I don't know if its true -

"I know Bama has at times back counted more than the usual amount by retroactively revoking scholarships after the season was over and making the kids pay back the tuition money. Not sure if anyone else does this."
https://www.secrant.com/rant/sec-re...ed-back-to-the-previous-years-class/51301482/

I don't know if there is a limit to the number of early entry recruits that you can count back to the prior class.

I assume that we will have a small recruiting class & that someone will do the math & post it.

I believe the SEC limit of 25 counters/ new scholarship players (?) in any one year is still in force.

How soon the NCAA will return to the 85 player total limit is anyone's guess.

Quality vs quantity; I would rather hold onto the ships than waste them on non SEC caliber players & then have to force them to transfer; gives us a huge PR blackeye.

King,

I am not an expert on scholarship math.

This quote is old & I don't know if its true -

"I know Bama has at times back counted more than the usual amount by retroactively revoking scholarships after the season was over and making the kids pay back the tuition money. Not sure if anyone else does this."
https://www.secrant.com/rant/sec-re...ed-back-to-the-previous-years-class/51301482/

I don't know if there is a limit to the number of early entry recruits that you can count back to the prior class.

I assume that we will have a small recruiting class & that someone will do the math & post it.

I believe the SEC limit of 25 counters/ new scholarship players (?) in any one year is still in force.

How soon the NCAA will return to the 85 player total limit is anyone's guess.

Quality vs quantity; I would rather hold onto the ships than waste them on non SEC caliber players & then have to force them to transfer; gives us a huge PR blackeye.

Technically, 25 is the goaline. However, it may not be so cut and dry depending on mitigating factors. If the recruiting class continues to dwindle, it's possible an exception might be made. Imo, that's why it's best not to sign or accept just any recruit for the sake of recruiting right now, especially if you don't think they have power 5 talent.

We currently have SEVEN recruits. They(See link below) consider the low 20s(20 or 21) to be barely acceptable. 18 or 19 to have possible exceptions to be made. I wonder what they think about 7.

Napier is on record saying he doesn't to offer recruits a scholarship without time to evaluate them. I don't think he would have this stance, this year, if he didn't know a "flexibility" might be allowed. Yes, there are other late HC changes....but how many are in this dire of a situation regarding loading back up?

""We have some institutions in the high teens for initial counters in the fall," Sankey said. "(They) only awarded 18 or 19 so they have some flexibility. ... We're monitoring that with our institutions."

SEC learning to live with new 25-player signing cap

Barring opposition, new rule will go into effect for all of NCAA on Aug. 1.

www.al.com

 

[Michi_Gator]

Technically, 25 is the goaline. However, it may not be so cut and dry depending on mitigating factors. If the recruiting class continues to dwindle, it's possible an exception might be made. Imo, that's why it's best not to sign or accept just any recruit for the sake of recruiting right now, especially if you don't think they have power 5 talent.

We currently have SEVEN recruits. They consider the low 20s(20 or 21) to be barely acceptable. 18 or 19 to have possible exceptions to be made. I wonder what they think about 7.

Napier is on record saying he doesn't to offer recruits a scholarship without time to evaluate them. I don't think he would have this stance, this year, if he didn't know a "flexibility" might be allowed. Yes, there are other late HC changes....but how many are in this dire of a station regarding loading back up?

""We have some institutions in the high teens for initial counters in the fall," Sankey said. "(They) only awarded 18 or 19 so they have some flexibility. ... We're monitoring that with our institutions."

SEC learning to live with new 25-player signing cap

Barring opposition, new rule will go into effect for all of NCAA on Aug. 1.

www.al.com

All of this back counting, take a small class and wait, is going to be irrelevant now that the portal is essentially free agency

Recruiting is going to completely change

 

[KingofHedgehogs]

All of this back counting, take a small class and wait, is going to be irrelevant now that the portal is essentially free agency

Recruiting is going to completely change

Excuses can still be made since the rule for transfers in the portal that they must IMMEDIANTLY be able to academically qualify to the new destination. This is fine for many schools, but for a higher tier academic school, such as UF, it further limits choices. The portal closes on July 1st, right? So certain schools making a mad dash are further hampered by a relatively small time window.


In the link I gave earlier, one of the things they said the strongly consider in availability is academic eligibility.

At 17 or 18 recruits the transfer portal excuse is solid. At 7? I doubt it.

 

[Dannygator1989]

Well a Billy is all over the recruiting trail right now.

Apparently went to IMG and afterwards 3 Clemson commits uncommitted. We have a 4-5 star safety visiting today that wasn't even considering us a few weeks ago.

 

[TEBOW TIME]

I would be fine with 12-15 commits and then getting 5-8 from the portal . Build on that and coach them up.

 

[Michi_Gator]

Well a Billy is all over the recruiting trail right now.

Apparently went to IMG and afterwards 3 Clemson commits uncommitted. We have a 4-5 star safety visiting today that wasn't even considering us a few weeks ago.

Trying to pull Kamari Wilson?

If he gets even a punter from IMG that is a huge breakthrough

 

[Dannygator1989]

Trying to pull Kamari Wilson?

If he gets even a punter from IMG that is a huge breakthrough

Kamari has been sharing Florida hype videos now.

Who knows how it will shake out but....that would be something.

 

[Michi_Gator]

Kamari has been sharing Florida hype videos now.

Who knows how it will shake out but....that would be something.

No shit, I can’t remember the last time we landed an IMG kid

 

[TEBOW TIME]

MSN

www.msn.com

 

[PacoGator19]

No shit, I can’t remember the last time we landed an IMG kid

IMG hates UF. Simple as that. I’d be shocked.

 

[Michi_Gator]

IMG hates UF. Simple as that. I’d be shocked.

Oh I get it, hell to pull a visit is amazing.

And no one can say it isn’t a thing, Seider pulls them for PSU but couldn’t here. Tells you just how much anti-Gator they are

 

[PacoGator19]

Oh I get it, hell to pull a visit is amazing.

And no one can say it isn’t a thing, Seider pulls them for PSU but couldn’t here. Tells you just how much anti-Gator they are

IMG has pretty much sent their kids everywhere but UF. I don’t even know why we bother but I get it the coaches will continue trying I guess.