It was ALWAYS Mullen...
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You mean because our first two choices didn’t want it? Otherwise, why did our athletic department fly up to meet Kelly? Im pretty good with Mullen, but Kelly was pretty clearly our first choice.
agreed. I think the OP must be saying UF's realistic HC was Mullen all along. Nothing wrong with swinging for the fences as long as you don't have two strikes. Just need to make contact after a couple swings and misses and Mullen wanted to be in Gville whereas the other two were not that gung ho about the possibility.
For the morons who think we missed on Kelly you are wrong. Kelly would be getting announced tomorrow if Mora had won big at UCLA. Kelly chose comfort over job, and there’s nothing wrong with that.
I do think Kelly probably wasn't satisfied with some answers he got about control - probably compliance related. I don't believe that Shannon rumor at all.
If the AD wanted to put on a show making it appear he really wanted Kelly over Mullen he did a good job of convincing people loading the president in the plane and all that crap.
If the AD wanted to put on a show making it appear he really wanted Kelly over Mullen he did a good job of convincing people loading the president in the plane and all that crap.
Don't think so but it doesn't really matter anyway. Kelly and Frost were top 2 but just because Mullen was third choice doesn't mean he isn't and can't be good for us regardless. Us going after them wasn't a slight on him as much as the fact that both of them were the two hottest coaches on the market. One guy with 4 BCS games and a title birth on his resume and the other the hottest young coach out there. You take that swing each time.
Never doubt me - I still run this run down joint
Yes. Foley would have never tried for the homerun in Chip, would have then completely ignored a solid coach in Mullen who wants to come and instead gone straight to Jeremy Pruitt and hired him
He just was not a good fit. He realized it and decided to go west for less money at a program with less resources.
That is fine.
it doesn't matter now, it actually worked out for the better, we now finally know exactly what we are getting and what type of offense with identity we will run.. We've already seen it win multiple rings for us with the same exact guy at the same exact school.. Even if we lose 4 games next year we will be much improved, score points, and try to win and have chances to compete with everyone.. Mullens offense dominates with elite talent, and it can do it again like it worked from 05-08..
All this was a blessing in disguise that was meant to be, Gators should have hope again and be excited, because Mullen won't let us down and will build us back up to where we are supposed to be, knows what it takes, how to recruit and how to win here.. I can't wait to watch how much better the product on the field is and be happy to see Florida games again..
Great times ahead, and Stricklin delivered and saved us from the depths of despair and did something Foley could never do for us in football.. He hired the perfect guy in all facets, long term build, a schematic advantage coach that can get more out of players than their ability, and gets to do it with high level talent. He made MSU #1 and has had multiple QB's with vastly different skill sets thrive and win games while putting up big numbers...
All this was a blessing in disguise that was meant to be, Gators should have hope again and be excited, because Mullen won't let us down and will build us back up to where we are supposed to be, knows what it takes, how to recruit and how to win here.. I can't wait to watch how much better the product on the field is and be happy to see Florida games again..
Great times ahead, and Stricklin delivered and saved us from the depths of despair and did something Foley could never do for us in football.. He hired the perfect guy in all facets, long term build, a schematic advantage coach that can get more out of players than their ability, and gets to do it with high level talent. He made MSU #1 and has had multiple QB's with vastly different skill sets thrive and win games while putting up big numbers...
The cow-Chip would have been a disaster, sooner rather than later.
Thank gawd that he's back on the leftist coast, where his type belongs.
Frost was a bit intriguing, but being a Neb. alum and with them firing their coach, IF he goes anywhere, it will be home to his parents and Neb. Good for him and all of them if that happens. Tough nuggies for UCF.
Both were talked to and about, but it was mostly just smoke & mirrors before hiring the guy that Strictlin wanted from the get-go imo.
Mullen is the right guy at the right time, and I'm thrilled with the hire.
GoooooooooGATORS!
Thank gawd that he's back on the leftist coast, where his type belongs.
Frost was a bit intriguing, but being a Neb. alum and with them firing their coach, IF he goes anywhere, it will be home to his parents and Neb. Good for him and all of them if that happens. Tough nuggies for UCF.
Both were talked to and about, but it was mostly just smoke & mirrors before hiring the guy that Strictlin wanted from the get-go imo.
Mullen is the right guy at the right time, and I'm thrilled with the hire.
GoooooooooGATORS!
What offense doesnt dominate with elite talent?
Not busting on Mullen, i actually think he is a fine coach and will do well at UF. Was happy when he left the first time and he would have beenn in my top 5 for fsu if jimbo ever left.
The offense that can’t recruit elite talent.
But the fact that he’s done it before at Florida should help him get those recruits.
Onething is for certain Florida was the first to terminate which opened all kinds of doors for other colleges… Really weird how it all happened this year just weird…
recruiting rankings doesnt equal elite talent. I believe that is offense and defense right?
I just dont think UF has elite talent....at all. Now, Dan will definitely recruit it.
Unfortunately our most 2 talented offensive players didn’t play this past week. It’s a good thing they plenty of eligibility left because Malik Davis and Kadarius Toney are going to really shine in this offense.
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UF can get elite talent in a hurry, i found that out with Meyer when he took Zooks recruits. Jesus, that was a squad.
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Your brain obviously badly needs an enema to clear up your thinking.
Besides that, Dan has done pretty well with 3 star talent, including his QB's.
Stars from some biased service are often 'fake news' anyway.
MsSt's 2017 class of 25 only had 6 that were even 4 stars, while 4 of them were 2 stars, but he still gives Bama hell anyway.
But he needs Five Star QB's like Tebow was to win, right?
Taken from rival recruiting:
2017 QB Keytaon Thompson 6-4 210 ****
2016 No QB's signed
2015 Nick Tiano 6-4 197 ***
2014 Elijah Staley 6-7 213 ***
2014 Nick Fitzgerald 6-5 205 ** <<------<<<<
2013 Cord Sandberg 6-3 205 ****
2013 Damian Williams 6-1 215 ***
2012 Nick Schuessler 6-4 190 **
2011 Dak Prescott 6-3 220 ***
Only 2 were even 4 stars, with 2 being 2 stars.
[QUOTE="fsu939913, post: 1179942, member: 37199. recruiting rankings doesnt equal elite talent. I believe that is offense and defense right?
I just dont think UF has elite talent....at all. Now, Dan will definitely recruit it.[/QUOTE]
We have a handful of elite guys, but not enough
I just dont think UF has elite talent....at all. Now, Dan will definitely recruit it.[/QUOTE]
We have a handful of elite guys, but not enough
We have a handful of elite guys, but not enough[/QUOTE]
WHen i say "elite" i mean, top 5 at their position.... what do you mean when you say elite? We may just have different definitions but i dont think UF has anyone on offense that is top 5 at their position. At least not that played this yr
WHen i say "elite" i mean, top 5 at their position.... what do you mean when you say elite? We may just have different definitions but i dont think UF has anyone on offense that is top 5 at their position. At least not that played this yr[/QUOTE]Couldn’t you say the same about FSUs offensive talent? Nobody elite on FSUs offense either.
UF has some good talent in Toney and Davis on offense but they need some help around them. Most notibly a QB. That is where Dan Mullen comes in.
I'm actually kind of okay with Mullen, not a splash but familiar and he's a hard worker. (no.......not in the Zook sense) I was a little concerned about Kelly in that he's a dick like Harbaugh and wouldn't be a fit here and would be running to the next opportunity if he wasn't winning 10 games a year his first two seasons. Mullen is more mature than he was when he left here, and has a lot more to work with than Stark-vegas. Expectations are high for next season, especially for the offense.
WHen i say "elite" i mean, top 5 at their position.... what do you mean when you say elite? We may just have different definitions but i dont think UF has anyone on offense that is top 5 at their position. At least not that played this yr[/QUOTE]
Toney and Davis are all conf players, we will see if scarlett and calloway return. Ivey will go in first 3 rounds of draft, but thats the handful on offense
Was 3 star Dak Prescott an Elite talent?
Is 2 star Nick Fitzgerald an Elite talent?
Was walk-on Chris Doering an Elite talent?
Rivals #16 RB Malik Davis was rushing on a pace to equal Fred Taylor's Fr year, is he an Elite talent?
Is 2 star Nick Fitzgerald an Elite talent?
Was walk-on Chris Doering an Elite talent?
Rivals #16 RB Malik Davis was rushing on a pace to equal Fred Taylor's Fr year, is he an Elite talent?
Yes, yes and yes.
They all are absolutely elite talent. Unquestionably.
Recruiting rankings and services aren’t perfect nor are they complete.
There are tons of kids that are undiscovered or underrated or that simply grow and get bettter after high school.
Toney and Davis are all conf players, we will see if scarlett and calloway return. Ivey will go in first 3 rounds of draft, but thats the handful on offense[/QUOTE]
UF had a shitload of talent this year, unfortunately squandered by coaching, lack of discipline, suspensions, and a rash of injuries. And as usual, since Grier shit the bed the QB position was null and void. Franks personally gave away the UF-FSU game. At this point I'm not convinced he's coachable, has the head skills, or is just damaged goods due to lack of coaching. But there are two guys who never saw the field or got snaps in practice, and then there is Corral if he hold his commitment. I think he will with Mullen coming. It's always brighter the year before, but I really believe the program will be back competing for the East next season.
MsSt has had 4 seasons of 9 wins in their entire history.
Three of those 9 wins season belong to Mullen.
IF they win their bowl game, it will be 5 with Mullen having 4 of them.
His teams at MsSt have been made of mostly of 3 star rated recruits, with a few 4 stars thrown in and the once in a blue moon 5 star. So how does he win so much with that (recruit-rating) talent level in freakin' Stark-Vegas???
"He can take his-in and beat your-in."
"Then he could take your-in and best his-in."
Three of those 9 wins season belong to Mullen.
IF they win their bowl game, it will be 5 with Mullen having 4 of them.
His teams at MsSt have been made of mostly of 3 star rated recruits, with a few 4 stars thrown in and the once in a blue moon 5 star. So how does he win so much with that (recruit-rating) talent level in freakin' Stark-Vegas???
"He can take his-in and beat your-in."
"Then he could take your-in and best his-in."
So aside from this not being factually correct, you’re also comparing the modern 13 game schedule to past 11 or 12 game schedules.
Buhjeeezus there is always one in every group.
I've had family play at MSU...11 games or 13 games...MSU hardly had successful seasons and hardly got to compete for bowl games. Jackie Sherrill did do good things for State. However we all learned he stretched the rules. Before him MSU was lucky to be considered mediocre. After him Croom did his best to change the culture but winning just didn't normally work out. Mullen came in won a lot more than he lost.
11 games...12 games...13 games...had it been 13 games in the 60's 70's and 80's it would have been that many more losses.
Croom ran all our best guys off the team eithe literally from the hell we went through in training physically, made them quit, told them too.. or kicked them off for something off the field..
When he came into the meeting room the week of our first game and told us one of our other top RB's was deciding to leave the team because he told Croom "you expect too much out of me".. I knew we were in for a long season and long haul of rebuilding, I was only there for that season though and it was hell and the off season after fall camp and into the spring.. When I went to bama it was a f'in breeze in comparison in every way and we were treated like kings and pampered, but we had the talent and depth croom never got because, obviously.. Bama cuts corners and gets away with it, and I saw it first hand.. and I wasn't complaining, but I love when fans try to tell me I don't know what I AM talking about when I was actually there and was on the inside on the team like they would never be or know shit...
When he came into the meeting room the week of our first game and told us one of our other top RB's was deciding to leave the team because he told Croom "you expect too much out of me".. I knew we were in for a long season and long haul of rebuilding, I was only there for that season though and it was hell and the off season after fall camp and into the spring.. When I went to bama it was a f'in breeze in comparison in every way and we were treated like kings and pampered, but we had the talent and depth croom never got because, obviously.. Bama cuts corners and gets away with it, and I saw it first hand.. and I wasn't complaining, but I love when fans try to tell me I don't know what I AM talking about when I was actually there and was on the inside on the team like they would never be or know shit...
You are right and should know. You have watched your coach only dominate with one elite player.
When gone he's a not so fine coach.
When gone he's a not so fine coach.
Mullen never lost to FSU as a coach at UF. That’s good.
50 November 26, 2005 Gainesville #19 Florida 34–7
51 November 25, 2006 Tallahassee #4 Florida 21–14
52 November 24, 2007 Gainesville #9 Florida 45–12
53 November 29, 2008 Tallahassee #2 Florida 45–15
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50 November 26, 2005 Gainesville #19 Florida 34–7
51 November 25, 2006 Tallahassee #4 Florida 21–14
52 November 24, 2007 Gainesville #9 Florida 45–12
53 November 29, 2008 Tallahassee #2 Florida 45–15
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I apologize for hitting you where it hurt, it was intentional, unrustle the jimmies
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Your brain obviously badly needs an enema to clear up your thinking.
Besides that, Dan has done pretty well with 3 star talent, including his QB's.
Stars from some biased service are often 'fake news' anyway.
MsSt's 2017 class of 25 only had 6 that were even 4 stars, while 4 of them were 2 stars, but he still gives Bama hell anyway.
But he needs Five Star QB's like Tebow was to win, right?
Taken from rival recruiting:
2017 QB Keytaon Thompson 6-4 210 ****
2016 No QB's signed
2015 Nick Tiano 6-4 197 ***
2014 Elijah Staley 6-7 213 ***
2014 Nick Fitzgerald 6-5 205 ** <<------<<<<
2013 Cord Sandberg 6-3 205 ****
2013 Damian Williams 6-1 215 ***
2012 Nick Schuessler 6-4 190 **
2011 Dak Prescott 6-3 220 ***
Only 2 were even 4 stars, with 2 being 2 stars.
Yep, elite to most people means "high recruiting ranking". Stupid.
