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Is 'The Hat' in trouble?

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One writer who has been covering them for 25 years thinks so:

It’s early yet, relatively speaking, and as can be expected, no one is eager to go public regarding Miles’ future at this point. But 25 years of covering LSU, cultivating a variety of knowledgeable sources, have led this writer to believe that there is a serious threat to Miles’ tenure here.
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Off the field, one would be hard pressed to find major boosters, big financial supporters of the program, who are in Miles’ corner. His cultivation of those relationships has been wanting, especially for someone who has won as much as Miles has. Word is the big-money folks will mass to help pay his buyout before rushing to Miles’ defense, though talk traditionally is cheaper than actually writing a check.

The buyout of course is literally a huge issue.

If Miles is terminated without cause before Jan. 1, he would be owed $15 million, payable over eight years (twice the time remaining on his current contract). His assistants would have to be paid roughly an additional $2 million for six months salary (thanks to the “Les Miles clause” in their contracts) for a total buyout of $17 million.

It’s a staggering sum, but apparently not a deal breaker
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Unlike Muschamp's buyout, the hat at least earned his buyout in case they fire him. He just hasn't gotten over the Alabama hump in 5 years now. That rankles people when you have the recruiting that LSU has instate. Hell we're on a 5 year losing streak to those turds and I'll be damned if I want to lose again this year in Atlanta to them.
 
Its the nature of the business, but he has won a lot of games for them,...who can they get that they know is better?
 
Read two stories last night, all these borderline decisions are tied to the desire to land Tom Herman. I would rather that FSU keep Dumbo and LSU keep Miles than have a guy like Herman or the like land at either school.
 
Why would they want the adult man midget who calls himself Jimbo? He is not an upgrade over Miles. Probably rumors Jimboy got his agent to start so he can extort another raise out of FSU and the Florida taxpayers. He has done this before.
 
If getting a raise is his sole purpose for feigning interest in LSU, I have no problem with that.
 
Read two stories last night, all these borderline decisions are tied to the desire to land Tom Herman. I would rather that FSU keep Dumbo and LSU keep Miles than have a guy like Herman or the like land at either school.

Yeah keep the guy who is 4-1 against UF with a national title and the best coach in the state.
 
Why would they want the adult man midget who calls himself Jimbo? He is not an upgrade over Miles. Probably rumors Jimboy got his agent to start so he can extort another raise out of FSU and the Florida taxpayers. He has done this before.

The boosters pay for the raises. Not the taxpayers.
 
Yeah keep the guy who is 4-1 against UF with a national title and the best coach in the state.
I note that you list his record against Florida first. That really is, and will remain the standard for FSU fans concerning their coaches, right?
 
How kind has history been to programs that dump decent coaches because they aren't the best of the best?

LSU hasn't always been a powerhouse. Who's to say that they won't end up being the next Tennessee if they push this guy out?
 
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I note that you list his record against Florida first. That really is, and will remain the standard for FSU fans concerning their coaches, right?

No. I used it first because it's odd why you want a coach to stay who has 80% winning percentage against your school.
 
No. I used it first because it's odd why you want a coach to stay who has 80% winning percentage against your school.
That should tell you something......
That 4-1 is an anomaly. He caught the Gators at the perfect time coinciding with Winston and company. NOBODY expects that to continue when we are healthy again.
 
Let me add this, the Gators had one good season in the last five. What happened to fsu that year?
 
No. I used it first because it's odd why you want a coach to stay who has 80% winning percentage against your school.
I have read your posts on your board. You are usually thoughtful and insightful. In light of that, do we really need to discuss the state of Florida football during that five years that contributed to that record?
 
How kind has history been to programs that dump decent coaches because they aren't the best of the best?

LSU hasn't always been a powerhouse. Who's to say that they won't end up being the next Tennessee if they push this guy out?
Louisiana is a much better recruiting state that Tennessee. UT started going down hill when Richt all but closed the boarder to Tennessee.
 
I have read your posts on your board. You are usually thoughtful and insightful. In light of that, do we really need to discuss the state of Florida football during that five years that contributed to that record?

It's no different than when Urban had his way with Bobby but FSUs lack of success was looked as if we were beneath you. You can't have it both ways.

Let's not act like Jimbo recruiting at a level only behind Saban helped allow for the shift. Why can't Jimbo get any credit? Baffles my mind. One reason why UF was down was because of Jimbo coming in after Bobby and getting FSU back on track in recruiting, facilities and developing talent.

Coach Mac was a good hire by you guys. I admitted it at the time. My wife also has three degrees from UF so it's not like I detest everything UF.

I just think Jimbo is better than some of you think. He's no rube.
 
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It's no different than when Urban had his way with Bobby but FSUs lack of success was looked as if we were beneath you. You can't have it both ways.

Let's not act like Jimbo recruiting at a level only behind Saban helped allow for the shift. Why can't Jimbo get any credit? Baffles my mind. One reason why UF was down was because of Jimbo coming in after Bobby and getting FSU back on track in recruiting, facilities and developing talent.

Coach Mac was a good hire by you guys. I admitted it at the time. My wife also has three degrees from UF so it's not like I detest everything UF.

I just think Jimbo is better than some of you think. He's no rube.

Pffftt. If dumbo goes back to LSU he'll just continue to get shut out by guys like Zook. Except Saban won't be there to cover his ass. :eek:
 
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It's no different than when Urban had his way with Bobby but FSUs lack of success was looked as if we were beneath you. You can't have it both ways.

Not trying to have it both ways. Bowden is the most successful coach in the history of FSU. If you guys don't like the way his last six years went, then that is on you. Just like it is on us for hiring and keeping Muschamp. All the records count. It's just that you guys can no longer depend on having Muschamp around anymore. Which is the foundation of Jimbo's record against Florida. And we CAN depend on having Fisher around

Let's not act like Jimbo recruiting at a level only behind Saban helped allow for the shift. Why can't Jimbo get any credit? Baffles my mind.

Who says Jimbo does not get credit for recruiting? Certainly not me. And no one else either. But once you say that, you have to include his ALL his recruiting, and ALL FSU's offensive performance, from the time he was hired by FSU.

Can't have it both ways

I just think Jimbo is better than some of you think. He's no rube.

Few said he was/is a rube. Certainly not me. But history suggests that unless he has a once in a coaching career kind of QB, he is going to lose at least one game and probably more to teams that are far less talented than his.

That is just who he is. Many, if not most Noles over on your board seem to understand that too.
 
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Not trying to have it both ways. Bowden is the most successful coach in the history of FSU. If you guys don't like the way his last six years went, then that is on you. Just like it is on us for hiring and keeping Muschamp. All the records count. I';s just that you guys can no longer depend on having Muschamp around anymore. Whihc is the foundation of Jimbo's record against Florida. And we CAN depend on having Fisher around



Who says Jimbo does not get credit for recruiting? Certainly not me. And no one else either. But once you say that, you have to include his ALL his recruiting, and ALL FSU's offensive performance, from the time he was hired by FSU.

Can't have it both ways



Few said he was/is a rube. Certainly not me. But history suggests that unless he has a once in a coaching career kind of QB, he is going to lose at least one game and probably more to teams that are far less talented than his.

That is just who he is. Many, if not most Noles over on your board seem to understand that too.
Oh they understand. They were willing, ready, and able to give Candi-less his walking papers before black jesus, the QB. . LOL
 
Who recruited Jameis? How about the other 29 guys he sent to the NFL the last three years?

Who is Spurrier without Wuerrfel? All great teams need great players.

Such poor arguments. One minute Jameis sucked and then the next Jimbo needed him. At least be consistent.
 
Who recruited Jameis? How about the other 29 guys he sent to the NFL the last three years?

Who is Spurrier without Wuerrfel? All great teams need great players.

Such poor arguments. One minute Jameis sucked and then the next Jimbo needed him. At least be consistent.
Typical idiot null. Spurrier took a 4th string QB and beat the nulls with their 5 star QB in 1992. Oh they called that QB the second coming of Joe Montana? That asshat is still on tv, not sure why. He is an efftard. Beat his ass so bad he lost 15 pounds and needed an IV that day. :)
Spurrier hated UGA much worse and really didn't have his eye on the ball out of conference but beat the POS Bowden when it mattered most.........on the National Stage for all the marbles. That 52-20 still leave a mark on your ass and psyche? :)
 
Who recruited Jameis? How about the other 29 guys he sent to the NFL the last three years?

Who is Spurrier without Wuerrfel? All great teams need great players.

Such poor arguments. One minute Jameis sucked and then the next Jimbo needed him. At least be consistent.
You put up straw men.

Winston was a great, great college player. He will probably be a good to great NFL player. Jimbo only lost one game with that guy. He gets credit for him.

But he also had two other first round draft picks as QBs. Every year he had those guys, he suffered multiple losses against inferior teams.

That is Jimbo Fisher.
 
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Oh they understand. They were willing, ready, and able to give Candi-less his walking papers before black jesus, the QB. . LOL

If it makes you feel better, Dumbo just signed the #1 Dual-threat QB last year and will sign the #2 Dual-threat QB this year.
 
Can anyone explain why LSU hasn't had more than two, perhaps three (if you really count Rohan Davies...and it's really a stretch to call Jamarcus and Flynn as "great" QBs) decent QBs in over 14-20 years.
 
Can anyone explain why LSU hasn't had more than two, perhaps three (if you really count Rohan Davies...and it's really a stretch to call Jamarcus and Flynn as "great" QBs) decent QBs in over 14-20 years.

Hard to attract top QBs to run pitch-dive 47 times a game. Same reason Chump struggled to get top tier offensive players in to UF
 
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