No one's here to hold your hand. I'm sure AI pulled it from somewhere.I understand someone wrote 4.7M. I would like to see who arrived at that number and how they did it. If you guys can't provide that, no problem.
It's not my data.
No one's here to hold your hand. I'm sure AI pulled it from somewhere.I understand someone wrote 4.7M. I would like to see who arrived at that number and how they did it. If you guys can't provide that, no problem.
Yeah, I would distance myself from those numbers too.No one's here to hold your hand. I'm sure AI pulled it from somewhere.
It's not my data.
You have a link to me claiming "that there are only a few thousand DGUs a year at best"?Everyone here understands exactly what you are trying to do. Everyone but you understands that it's not working.
You've always claimed that there are only a few thousand DGUs a year at best, because that's all the media reports.
Both Gemini and Grok agree that the source of that claim, GVA, is way off. Both sources agree the actual number of DGUs a year is over a million, if not millions.
This is why it's a good idea to research these issues yourself, instead of blindly believing propaganda from the gun crazies.
From earlier in this thread:What are you talking about "your claims of a couple thousand a year"?
Weird. There are 'millions' of DGUs each year (83K+ per month) but you only hear about 1-2 a month.
So your theory is that the government and the media are successfully covering up over 2,700 DGUs every single day?
There are obviously some DGUs but 2,700 each day is very far-fetched.
And that's precisely what you are doing. You want no part of those numbers because they destroy your claims that '2700 DGUs each day seems far-fetched' LOLYeah, I would distance myself from those numbers too.
You think I am saying there are only 2,700 in a year?From earlier in this thread:
Your claims were off. Insanely so. Oh well, now you know better. The real number of DGUs a year is thought to be over a million, possibly millions.
Correct, it's thought to be at least 50-100% higher than that number. As both @fatman76 and I have told you.You think I am saying there are only 2,700 in a year?
That is some poor comprehension on your part!
For your future reference, I am saying THERE IS NO WAY THERE ARE 2,700 DGUS EVERY DAY.
How am I distancing myself?Yeah, I would distance myself from those numbers too.
He's desperate to try to spin that no one NEEDS a gun. No one NEEDS to be terrified of an inanimate object, but here we are.How am I distancing myself?
I took 6 seconds, did a one sentence search, and posted the AI recap.
What part of the recap is wrong? What proof do you have that AI is making that number up?
The difference is one of us is open to research and looking at what it says. The other is so terrified by the result you're SURE it's complete BS...but you can't really provide any details, just feelings.
One should not mud wrestle with pigs.Ask AI like I did. It takes seconds.
Why am I doing your work for you?
"Never argue with stupid people. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."One should not mud wrestle with pigs.
You posted a number in excess of 4 million DGUs annually. When I pressed you on it, you danced around and eventually said they weren't your numbers. Obviously, you've correctly recognized that the 4 million number is far beyond a rational estimate and don't want to be associated with such lunacy.How am I distancing myself?
I took 6 seconds, did a one sentence search, and posted the AI recap.
What part of the recap is wrong? What proof do you have that AI is making that number up?
The difference is one of us is open to research and looking at what it says. The other is so terrified by the result you're SURE it's complete BS...but you can't really provide any details, just feelings.
EVENTUALLY as in the VERY FIRST RESPONSE?You posted a number in excess of 4 million DGUs annually. When I pressed you on it, you danced around and eventually said they weren't your numbers. Obviously, you've correctly recognized that the 4 million number is far beyond a rational estimate and don't want to be associated with such lunacy.
You posted a number in excess of 4 million DGUs annually. When I pressed you on it, you danced around and eventually said they weren't your numbers.
He's right, theo. You told a blatant lie.EVENTUALLY as in the VERY FIRST RESPONSE?
You posted something you found on the internet. No problem.....we all do that.EVENTUALLY as in the VERY FIRST RESPONSE?
JFC you're trying to troll too hard. It was an AI recap, I copied and pasted the entire thing, showing it was the AI recap.
Here's the exact same copy and paste from the search. Try it yourself if you don't believe me.
Google: "how many dgu's happen per year"
Did you mean: how many dogs happen per year
AI Overview
AI Overview
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Estimates of the number of defensive gun uses (DGUs) in the United States each year range from 55,000 to 4.7 million, depending on the study. The most widely accepted estimate is around 70,000 DGUs per year.
Explanation
Previous estimates
- Survey methods
Surveys can introduce bias, and surveys of rare events like DGUs can overestimate their frequency.
- Definition of DGU
Different studies define DGU differently, including whether to consider the individual's feelings about the situation or only those actively involved in violent crimes.
- Other factors
Other factors that affect estimates include the country, population, criteria, and time period studied.
- The CDC previously cited estimates of DGUs ranging from 60,000 to 2.5 million per year. However, the CDC reportedly removed these statistics after pressure from gun control advocates.
- The Gun Violence Archive (GVA) estimates the number of DGUs based on police and media reports.
Conclusion
The exact number of DGUs each year is difficult to determine, but guns are used more often in criminal activity than for defensive purposes.
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If I cared I wouldn't have responded either time.You posted something you found on the internet. No problem.....we all do that.
Part of what you posted referred to 4.7 million DGUs annually so I asked you about it.
Apparently, you didn't care for me asking you about what you posted.
Leave it up to FOX to sympathize the low life POS criminal who got his ass capped leaving this world with a 1-4 MMA record. What a dumb Fuchs!![]()
MMA fighter shot and killed during Florida home invasion in apparent ‘Stand your Ground’ case
MMA fighter Langston Sykes, 31, was shot an killed in Florida on Tuesday night in what police say may qualify under the state's "Stand your Ground Law."www.foxnews.com
What would you have done Theo?? Can you take a trained MMA fighter? THIS GUY saved his family from harm...he is a REAL Man.
Are you now frightened that an MMA fighter is going to invade your home?![]()
MMA fighter shot and killed during Florida home invasion in apparent ‘Stand your Ground’ case
MMA fighter Langston Sykes, 31, was shot an killed in Florida on Tuesday night in what police say may qualify under the state's "Stand your Ground Law."www.foxnews.com
What would you have done Theo?? Can you take a trained MMA fighter? THIS GUY saved his family from harm...he is a REAL Man.
THAT embarrassing to answer the question? I could not live with myself if I...being the MAN of the house was so afraid of an inanimate object that I could not protect my family. There is ZERO chance that you do not have a democrat in the woodpile in your family, and some of that blood carried in to you. And NO....the way my house is protected...I do not fear ANYONE coming in my house. You see, son...that is the whole idea here. To be prepared to do my job as a man. Now...your turn. WHAT DO YOU DO??? Can you defend your family from a trained MMA fighet meaning to harm them? I CAN....Are you now frightened that an MMA fighter is going to invade your home?
Have you thought about parking a pick up in the driveway? That way, potential home invaders will know a real man lives there.
What if a meteor falls on your house? You'd better get you a helmet. You don't wanna be unprepared.THAT embarrassing to answer the question? I could not live with myself if I...being the MAN of the house was so afraid of an inanimate object that I could not protect my family. There is ZERO chance that you do not have a democrat in the woodpile in your family, and some of that blood carried in to you. And NO....the way my house is protected...I do not fear ANYONE coming in my house. You see, son...that is the whole idea here. To be prepared to do my job as a man. Now...your turn. WHAT DO YOU DO??? Can you defend your family from a trained MMA fighet meaning to harm them? I CAN....
Did Theo ever say what his plan was if a burglar breaks in? @BSC911 said he would run out the back door and dive in the bushes and hope the criminal was scared off by his alarm and/or dog barking. I assume the wife and kids are on their own?THAT embarrassing to answer the question? I could not live with myself if I...being the MAN of the house was so afraid of an inanimate object that I could not protect my family. There is ZERO chance that you do not have a democrat in the woodpile in your family, and some of that blood carried in to you. And NO....the way my house is protected...I do not fear ANYONE coming in my house. You see, son...that is the whole idea here. To be prepared to do my job as a man. Now...your turn. WHAT DO YOU DO??? Can you defend your family from a trained MMA fighet meaning to harm them? I CAN....
Same logic applies to being terrified of an inanimate object (gun), doesn't it?What if a meteor falls on your house? You'd better get you a helmet. You don't wanna be unprepared.
Do you ever think before you type? Some of your responses are Kalim level stupid. This being one of them.What if a meteor falls on your house? You'd better get you a helmet. You don't wanna be unprepared.