In before the gun confiscation NUTS.....

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Sounds like you need a safe space.

I'm good. You're the one that complains every time a poster gets banned and tries to go on a victim parade claiming the board is targeting only lefty posters for bans.

I hate to educate you, but Trump supporters get warnings too. The difference is, Trump supporters HEED those warnings from the mods, and change their behavior as a result.

Lefty posters typically do NOT do this. They tell the mod to go eff himself, and they tend to get banned as a result.

When they get banned, you rush to their defense and claim they only got banned cause Trump supporters complained and we want safe spaces and gosh darnit it's just not fair!

No. Posters get banned when they can't follow the rules. It just so happens that Trump supporters take warnings from the mods to heart, whereas lefty posters usually do not.

Simple as that.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

I'm good. You're the one that complains every time a poster gets banned and tries to go on a victim parade claiming the board is targeting only lefty posters for bans.

I hate to educate you, but Trump supporters get warnings too. The difference is, Trump supporters HEED those warnings from the mods, and change their behavior as a result.

Lefty posters typically do NOT do this. They tell the mod to go eff himself, and they tend to get banned as a result.

When they get banned, you rush to their defense and claim they only got banned cause Trump supporters complained and we want safe spaces and gosh darnit it's just not fair!

No. Posters get banned when they can't follow the rules. It just so happens that Trump supporters take warnings from the mods to heart, whereas lefty posters usually do not.

Simple as that.

He is trolling you all. Ignore works well with him. Are you sure this is not DMF or BSC? I see many similarities.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

He is trolling you all. Ignore works well with him. Are you sure this is not DMF or BSC? I see many similarities.

His rushing to ray ray's defense is always amusing. I believe @Mdfgator is the only sock account for @BSC911 currently.

 

[GatorTheo]

I'm good. You're the one that complains every time a poster gets banned and tries to go on a victim parade claiming the board is targeting only lefty posters for bans.

I hate to educate you, but Trump supporters get warnings too. The difference is, Trump supporters HEED those warnings from the mods, and change their behavior as a result.

Lefty posters typically do NOT do this. They tell the mod to go eff himself, and they tend to get banned as a result.

When they get banned, you rush to their defense and claim they only got banned cause Trump supporters complained and we want safe spaces and gosh darnit it's just not fair!

No. Posters get banned when they can't follow the rules. It just so happens that Trump supporters take warnings from the mods to heart, whereas lefty posters usually do not.

Simple as that.

Be honest. How many times have you contacted the mods about my 'trolling'? I know you tagged one like yesterday.

 

[GatorTheo]

Is Trump a bigger asshole than Steve Spurrier?

Every Gator fan loves Spurrier. As they should, he won a lot of games.

Yet I've never heard a single Gator fan in my life that said he should have been fired cause he was an asshole, or that Florida should 'cancel' him and his legacy cause he's an asshole.

That would be ridiculous, it would be idiotic.

Yet there's no shortage of people who think Trump is an asshole, and claim him being an asshole means they can't support him. Despite that he accomplished more good for this country than any President in your lifetime.

No one has a problem with you thinking Trump is an asshole. Anyone with a brain has a problem with you thinking Trump being an asshole is more important than all the good he did and continues to do for America.

Spurrier didn't need to be elected. Trump does/did.

I've told you this about 20 times but it doesn't fit your cult's agenda.....I voted for Trump twice and I would again if he ran against a dem.

Obviously, I can overlook his assholiness. The problem is, many other people can't and Trump NEEDS votes to get elected. He's shooting himself in the foot over and over yet you want to blame everyone but him.

 

[RussellCasse]

Spurrier didn't need to be elected. Trump does/did.

I've told you this about 20 times but it doesn't fit your cult's agenda.....I voted for Trump twice and I would again if he ran against a dem.

Obviously, I can overlook his assholiness. The problem is, many other people can't and Trump NEEDS votes to get elected. He's shooting himself in the foot over and over yet you want to blame everyone but him.

And yet the polls have him up. Interesting.

You know, polls that have never been favorable to pubs.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Be honest. How many times have you contacted the mods about my 'trolling'? I know you tagged one like yesterday.

Zero. What would I report you for? You don't break the rules.

And my point still stands. The posters that get banned were banned for breaking the rules. They got warned first, they didn't heed the warnings.

Trump supporters get warned too, but they are smart enough to heed the warnings and change their behavior. Lefties often do not, and get banned.

Then you rush in and blame the Trump supporters.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Spurrier didn't need to be elected. Trump does/did.

Sure he did. Fans hire and fire coaches all the time. If the Gator fans would have been united in saying Spurrier needed to be fired cause he was an asshole, he would have been fired for being an asshole.

It would have been an insanely stupid thing for Gator fans to do, but...

I've told you this about 20 times but it doesn't fit your cult's agenda.....I voted for Trump twice and I would again if he ran against a dem.

Obviously, I can overlook his assholiness. The problem is, many other people can't and Trump NEEDS votes to get elected. He's shooting himself in the foot over and over yet you want to blame everyone but him.

This is where I am intrigued by your posts because I can't tell if you are trolling or if you really believe this.

I am focusing on this statement you made: "The problem is, many other people can't and Trump NEEDS votes to get elected. He's shooting himself in the foot over and over yet you want to blame everyone but him."

There is nothing in reality that supports this statement. Trump is the most popular politician in American history. He can announce a rally anywhere in America on 24 hours notice and get 20,000 people to show up.

Trump's behavior is making him MORE POPULAR, it's clearly not hurting him.

So again, are you trolling here or do you really believe this?

Give us the evidence that Trump's behavior is hurting his chances of wining in 2024. Put your cards on the table for once.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

And yet the polls have him up. Interesting.

You know, polls that have never been favorable to pubs.

There's literally zero evidence for what @GatorTheo is claiming.

 

[GatorTheo]

Zero. What would I report you for? You don't break the rules.

And my point still stands. The posters that get banned were banned for breaking the rules. They got warned first, they didn't heed the warnings.

Trump supporters get warned too, but they are smart enough to heed the warnings and change their behavior. Lefties often do not, and get banned.

Then you rush in and blame the Trump supporters.

You tagged a mod in #1087 when you were complaining about my 'trolling'.

I think the question is: What do YOU desire? Your trolling attempt over 'bear arms' meaning only 2 but 'people' means everyone is.....accomplishing what, exactly?

What was your goal in doing this?

@FresnoGator this is why we have an echo chamber.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

You tagged a mod in #1087 when you were complaining about my 'trolling'.

Replying to you and tagging @FresnoGator isn't the same thing as reporting you to Fresno. You have been a mod before so you know the difference, this is just another lame troll attempt.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Give us the evidence that Trump's behavior is hurting his chances of wining in 2024. Put your cards on the table for once.

@GatorTheo? What evidence do you have that Trump's behavior is making it harder for him to win elections?

And if you don't have any, it''s ok to admit that. It's even ok to admit you were just trolling and know Trump is amazing and the most popular president ever.

The honestly from you would be refreshing, actually.

 

[GatorTheo]

Replying to you and tagging @FresnoGator isn't the same thing as reporting you to Fresno. You have been a mod before so you know the difference, this is just another lame troll attempt.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

MAKING GOOD PEOPLE HELPLESS DOES NOT MAKE BAD PEOPLE HARMLESS.



Read this 25 times Theo for your remedial education

 

[fatman76]

What shall not be infringed?

Your right to unlimited guns or your right to bear arms?

Why do you keep going back to the same well?

I've already shown you the historical context in which the amendment was written, which explains the meaning behind it.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

The "well regulated Militia securing a free state" means that We the People have the right to own any weapon necessary to defend liberty. It literally just happened to the Founders of the country as they were drafting these rights - we had to fight and die to gain independence. The entire purpose of this Representative Republic is decentralized power to the States (people) and limiting the power of the Federal Gov't, which was seen as a way to prevent the Patriarchal rule that they just fought for freedom from while avoiding the pitfalls of pure democracy seen in antiquity. The populace being armed and ready to defend themselves is "necessary to the security of a free state" quite literally.

Every time a law is passed that We can't own a certain kind of weapon, the 2A is infringed as written/intended.

And before you use the Biden quote about F16's...if the Feds wanted to take the country by force and we wanted to fight, they'd have nothing left when it was all over. We outnumber the armed forces 300:1. Wisconsin registered hunters alone (not just gun owners) is the 8th largest standing army in the world by the numbers....all registered US hunters is the biggest by far in the world.

You'd have to turn large swaths of the US to glass to completely take over, it it's even possible.

Regardless, this absurd threshold you've created of "bearing arms" is nonsense in historical context, and you know it.

 

[fatman76]

It actually does. The Constitution doesn't place a limit on how many guns can be bought.

You've been told this repeatedly. Please stop trolling. You are the problem with this board. If you don't like the 2nd Amendment fine, but be an adult about your dislike. Don't lie about what it says, that's something a child does.

We don't want children or trolls here. They are the problem.

It's amazing.

If you hate guns, hate them. Own it, and admit you don't believe the Constitution should hold water if you don't like what it says.

 

[fatman76]

Fresno is not here to ban hammer people and you know it.

Drama queen...

 

[fatman76]

Spurrier didn't need to be elected. Trump does/did.

I've told you this about 20 times but it doesn't fit your cult's agenda.....I voted for Trump twice and I would again if he ran against a dem.

Obviously, I can overlook his assholiness. The problem is, many other people can't and Trump NEEDS votes to get elected. He's shooting himself in the foot over and over yet you want to blame everyone but him.

Being a HBC requires you
1) Win
2) Win over the fanbase

People vote with ticket sales, if the Swamp isn't full on a primetime Sat and the team isn't winning, that coach is not going to last long.

 

[GatorTheo]

Why do you keep going back to the same well?

I've already shown you the historical context in which the amendment was written, which explains the meaning behind it.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

The "well regulated Militia securing a free state" means that We the People have the right to own any weapon necessary to defend liberty. It literally just happened to the Founders of the country as they were drafting these rights - we had to fight and die to gain independence. The entire purpose of this Representative Republic is decentralized power to the States (people) and limiting the power of the Federal Gov't, which was seen as a way to prevent the Patriarchal rule that they just fought for freedom from while avoiding the pitfalls of pure democracy seen in antiquity. The populace being armed and ready to defend themselves is "necessary to the security of a free state" quite literally.

Every time a law is passed that We can't own a certain kind of weapon, the 2A is infringed as written/intended.

And before you use the Biden quote about F16's...if the Feds wanted to take the country by force and we wanted to fight, they'd have nothing left when it was all over. We outnumber the armed forces 300:1. Wisconsin registered hunters alone (not just gun owners) is the 8th largest standing army in the world by the numbers....all registered US hunters is the biggest by far in the world.

You'd have to turn large swaths of the US to glass to completely take over, it it's even possible.

Regardless, this absurd threshold you've created of "bearing arms" is nonsense in historical context, and you know it.

I'm not adding interpretation, I'm just reading what it says.

 

[GatorTheo]

Fresno is not here to ban hammer people and you know it.

Drama queen...

What are you talking about?

 

[GatorTheo]

Being a HBC requires you
1) Win
2) Win over the fanbase

People vote with ticket sales, if the Swamp isn't full on a primetime Sat and the team isn't winning, that coach is not going to last long.

So Spurrier was never rejected by the people he needed to satisfy.

Trump was.

 

[fatman76]

So Spurrier was never rejected by the people he needed to satisfy.

Trump was.

By getting 12MM more votes than 2016 and more than any other Republican in history?

Yea, quite the rejection by the base.

The election was stolen, I know it's hard to see from the porch, but that doesn't change what happened.

 

[fatman76]

I'm not adding interpretation, I'm just reading what it says.

It says:

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State"

What does that mean? Or do you just want to cherry pick certain phrases?

 

[fatman76]

What are you talking about?

You're "yea sure" GIF responding to Ghost - his goal isn't to report anyone and Fresno isn't one to ban people that aren't totally out of line.

I'm talking about you being dramatic. That's what a drama queen is, someone who's being overly dramatic.

 

[GatorTheo]

You're "yea sure" GIF responding to Ghost - his goal isn't to report anyone and Fresno isn't one to ban people that aren't totally out of line.

I'm talking about you being dramatic. That's what a drama queen is, someone who's being overly dramatic.

Ghost claims he doesn't tattle but we all know that is not true, correct?

I mean, he tagged the mod in the same post he claimed I was a 'troll'.

 

[GatorTheo]

It says:

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State"

What does that mean? Or do you just want to cherry pick certain phrases?

I suppose 200+ years ago they saw the need for a 'well regulated militia'.

Not sure if gangs qualify or not.

 

[GatorTheo]

By getting 12MM more votes than 2016 and more than any other Republican in history?

Yea, quite the rejection by the base.

The election was stolen, I know it's hard to see from the porch, but that doesn't change what happened.

Unfortunately, the base isn't all that counts.

 

[fatman76]

Unfortunately, the base isn't all that counts.

And clearly he got more than just that, which is how you have record-setting results. But you don't get those types of numbers if you don't bring a massive majority of the Republican base as well.

No, he pissed off the wrong people in the DS and all stops were pulled to make sure he wasn't President again. And the same thing is happening again - now that much of the cheating in 2020 has been exposed and it doesn't look like Covid/mass mail-in is going to work again, they're trying to throw him in jail to keep him off the ballot....

They know if he's on the ballot again the amount of fraud required to "win" again will be impossible to hide.

I'm guessing if they don't throw him in jail there will be an assassination attempt.

 

[RussellCasse]

I suppose 200+ years ago they saw the need for a 'well regulated militia'.

Not sure if gangs qualify or not.

Wow. The board knows you struggle with vocabulary, but sentence structure is an issue for you as well? Yikes.

 

[RussellCasse]

Unfortunately, the base isn't all that counts.

Correct. And 74 million is quite a bit more than the base.

And if you believe Joe got 81 million votes, I have some glacier water I have been carrying around in my motorhome that I would like to sell you. Sure it stinks, and looks like mud, but the glacier was turning the ground to mud. Deal?

 

[fatman76]

I suppose 200+ years ago they saw the need for a 'well regulated militia'.

Not sure if gangs qualify or not.

Gangs?

Wisconsin alone had 600k registered hunters in 2018.

The entire armed forces, deployed and domestic, is 1.4MM people.

Add in non-hunters who own guns and one rural state alone is formidable. Add in the rest of the states and the Federal gov't would inherit absolutely nothing if they tried to take over by force, and any foreign enemy who tried to take the US by land would face massive resistance.

I don't think you grasp the scale of law abiding gun owners and how that ensures ongoing freedom from a takeover by force. Which is the entire point of the 2A.

 

[fatman76]

I suppose 200+ years ago they saw the need for a 'well regulated militia'.

Not sure if gangs qualify or not.

And why is it kosher to interpret "bearing arms" but we can't apply "a well regulated militia" anymore?

Either keep it all or throw it all out, which is what you're trying to do because you have an irrational fear of both guns and the Founder's intent when establishing the Republic.

 

[GatorTheo]

And why is it kosher to interpret "bearing arms" but we can't apply "a well regulated militia" anymore?

Either keep it all or throw it all out, which is what you're trying to do because you have an irrational fear of both guns and the Founder's intent when establishing the Republic.

I'm not interpreting 'bearing arms'. If you have two guns, you are 'bearing arms', correct?

 

[GatorTheo]

Wow. The board knows you struggle with vocabulary, but sentence structure is an issue for you as well? Yikes.

What problem do you have with my sentence structure?

 

[RussellCasse]

Gangs?

Wisconsin alone had 600k registered hunters in 2018.

The entire armed forces, deployed and domestic, is 1.4MM people.

Add in non-hunters who own guns and one rural state alone is formidable. Add in the rest of the states and the Federal gov't would inherit absolutely nothing if they tried to take over by force, and any foreign enemy who tried to take the US by land would face massive resistance.

I don't think you grasp the scale of law abiding gun owners and how that ensures ongoing freedom from a takeover by force. Which is the entire point of the 2A.

Besides the fact that 2A was intended for we the people, to protect against tyranny…folks like Theo make me laugh with their ignorance to people that aren’t city slickers. Yes, Theo is a city slicker.

How do we know this? Let’s take Alaska for one example. You going to tell the locals that they can no longer protect themselves from bears with a sidearm?

What about bird hunting? You going to tell them they can’t prepare to survive winter by hunting birds?

What about big game? You going to tell them they can no longer hunt big game with larger caliber weapons?

Small game like rabbit, squirrel etc….no smaller calibers like .22?

The problem with folks like Theo is he lives in bubble city. He is a city slicker that has no clue what it takes to survive without the assistance of people like Sam Walton, Ray Kroc, and the Rupert Murdochs of the world providing for him, and telling him what his world view should be.

But when the shat hits the fan, he will be begging those bearing arms, for help.

 

[RussellCasse]

What problem do you have with my sentence structure?

None, YOU have a problem understanding it.

 

[RussellCasse]

I'm not interpreting 'bearing arms'. If you have two guns, you are 'bearing arms', correct?

Same as if you have 500. And….”shall not infringe”

Infringe: act so as to limit or undermine (something); encroach on.

 

[GatorTheo]

Besides the fact that 2A was intended for we the people, to protect against tyranny…folks like Theo make me laugh with their ignorance to people that aren’t city slickers. Yes, Theo is a city slicker.

How do we know this? Let’s take Alaska for one example. You going to tell the locals that they can no longer protect themselves from bears with a sidearm?

What about bird hunting? You going to tell them they can’t prepare to survive winter by hunting birds?

What about big game? You going to tell them they can no longer hunt big game with larger caliber weapons?

Small game like rabbit, squirrel etc….no smaller calibers like .22?

The problem with folks like Theo is he lives in bubble city. He is a city slicker that has no clue what it takes to survive without the assistance of people like Sam Walton, Ray Kroc, and the Rupert Murdochs of the world providing for him, and telling him what his world view should be.

But when the shat hits the fan, he will be begging those bearing arms, for help.

Cultist minds work so predictably.

If I want any restrictions on guns at all, I must want to totally disarm everyone (because I'm a liberal, of course).

The gun companies have trained you well.

 

[GatorTheo]

Same as if you have 500. And….”shall not infringe”

Infringe: act so as to limit or undermine (something); encroach on.

That's right but, if you have two guns, you ARE 'bearing arms' and that is what the constitution promises.

Your right to 'bear arms' shall not be infringed......not your right to unlimited weapons.

 

[RussellCasse]

Cultist minds work so predictably.

If I want any restrictions on guns at all, I must want to totally disarm everyone (because I'm a liberal, of course).

The gun companies have trained you well.

The left as a whole keeps parroting the word “cultist”. It’s really odd that an entire segment of society has been infected with this verbiage like it’s covid. Very choreographed, Almost like…

I guess racist, sexist, conspiracy theorists….were no longer working.

What will the next ist be?