Good point. We must use tact when dealing with people that do not know Christ. But, for those that are hardened of heart and know Christ they are not to be trifled with. You must not allow dust to settle on your feet and go to the people who thirst for his Word.
Yes, and i will pray and love thy neighbor always. It is written.
I do not mean to be intentionally offensive and antagonistic. I mean that the truth, as it is in the Bible, is offensive on its face to the unbeliever. I mean that the modern American Christian is far to willing to water down God's commands in an attempt to be loved by the culture. Jesus Christ was hated during his ministry. He told Jewish leaders who sought to kill him that they were children of the devil. The Gospel of Jesus Christ is OFFENSIVE to those who seek to live a life of darkness, and desire ignorance of its truth. Christians should never water down the truth as a means of thriving in this world.
With all due respect, and I do mean that....I know what the truth is in regards to the Gospel
And as an unwashed heathen living in darkness, I'm pretty sure I know more about that than you do.
Sounds to me like you have hardened your heart. You may have read the words in the Gospel, but with a hardened heart, you are incapable of seeing the truth. I am not trying to offend you. I am not an alter boy. I was once an unwashed sinner sowing wild oates myself. Depraved. Wicked, violent and controlled by own natural desires. Not only have heard and read the Gospel, I have LIVED its transformational power. I know that I am a broken sinner that rely's TOTALLY on the forgiveness and grace of Christ.
Not all unbelievers are offended though. Some are simply unbelievers who haven't been exposed to Christian beliefs or teachings in a way that made sense or resonated.
I suppose that's technically true.
unless you shape up, im afraid you will have plenty of time for wallowing...but suspect there will be no peace
No matter what our opinions are we all have free will. My faith in Jesus would mean nothing if I was automatically created to follow Christ. I will still pray that you also find him.
Its not my case. I take no pleasure in it. I know that there is broad road taken by many, and narrow one taken by few. I know that the only way to salvation is to come to the foot of the cross, repent and take the gift He has given to all of us. I want every single one of God's children to accept His gift, and for us all to be together in Paradise. The Bible tells me that this will not be the case. I don't want anyone to settle into spiritual death. I don't know you, but I assume that there is a human being, with a soul on the other end of your screen name. The things you say lead me to believe you have settled into a rut of spiritual decay. I do not want this to happen to anyone, and if a few rough and tumble words could stir the spiritual pot, so be it. I want Christ to work in your heart. Genuinely.
Unless you are a Fisher of Men like the Doc, your concern is both creepy and unwanted. There are several billion people, myself included, who are perfectly happy with their religion and don't want to hear about yours.
Well, they don't recognize Jesus as our Lord and Savior so they are not a Christian faith.
That's you brother. I personally think waking someone up to tell them their religion is wrong makes you a presumptuous asshole.
I am personally sorry to hear this, but I respect your decision. We've had a few of these religious discussions on the UK board that have always failed to change anyone's mind. I'll just say that if a person changes their beliefs based on what an anonymous poster has typed on a message board, then their beliefs probably weren't very strong to begin with.
Thank you. You are a credit to your family.
So just to make sure I understand, I did fetch the post, you did ask? You were disappointed that I answered it, and aggreived at the content of the answer to the question. To further clarify the sting of events, I engaged posters on this board about whether or not the issues we face are political or spiritual. First, you engaged in what is now clear to me a passive aggressive mocking of my point, by placing the dreaded laughing emojii on each one of my posts. When you could no longer stand to be passive, you responded to me with an open ended statement to the effect of....true, but no for the reason you think....almost begging for a response. I gave a short, closed statement of I know what I believe. Then you tell me how you know more about it than I do...not sure how you would come to that conclusion. You begged for an interaction, that you finally got. YOU were the one trolling. Now you cry about what I have to say. Please pardon me, the whole you would do best to X, Y and Z doesn't have any effect on me. I don't intimdate easy, I say what I mean and mean what I say. You can choose to ignore me, thats up to you. But you kinda seem triggered
You still haven't shown me where I asked to be shown the error of my ways or to hear your testimony, because I didn't. Apparently they don't have sarcasm where you're from.
Well, let me speak in your terms. When you openly mock someone, don't be suprised when they give you their unrequested point of view. Like I said, you asked the question but you expected no answer. You were wrong to assume you would get no answer. For someone who doesnt care, you seem to spend a lot of time time bitching and moaning. You are so offended you feel like throwing the ole Karen thing from like 5 years ago out there like thats gonna hurt my feelings. Pathetic. I know what I know, I will say what I would like to say...if you dont want to hear it, ignore it. But for real, most Christian people expect to be responded to the way that you have reponded...youre not an outlier, youre the norm of the culture. If you read the posts that came before YOU CHOSE TO RESPOND TO ME, you would have already known where I was going to come from. I'm not your khacki slacks and polo shirt at the country club Christian.
You did threaten to take your ball and go home not that long ago, so. Don't sit there and act as if you never get riled on a message board. 🤣
Curiosity forces me to ask, what culture would that be?
Simply put, "the culture" is the phrase I use ( and I believe other s use it as well ) when refering to the body of people who sow to the worldly kingdom, rather than the Heavenly Kingdom.
Thanks for clarification but you realize that's through your lens, that is to say your pov and your religion.
I used the term unwashed sinner becasue I believe you used the term a few posts above. I know that you used it tongue in cheek, so did I, sort of.....I do think we are all broken sinners in need of forgivenss. I believe we are all wicked in our nature. Seems like you got the point with the Ned Flanders, as was my original point when posting in this thread, societies ills stem from Christians being to afraid to be forceful about the the truth. Im a different breed. You can hate the way I frame it, but that aint changing from me. Luckly for you, I wont be around much. I may stop in for a burst every once in a while, but I hate the internet. Love Gator football. I have no concept of your life, but ( and I know you are gonna hate it, but I aint changing ) we all share one thing...broken sinful hearts. Clever salesman? I almost appreciate this description. Nope, not selling anything. God has been good to me even though I havent deserved it. A wretched depraved man. Now im not a criminal, I found legal outlets for my propensity for violent behavior...legal but not moral, as defined by my heart. Unrestrained fulfilment of my own desires. He still took me back.
Which is weird. They believe he existed, they believe he was sacrificed on the cross and they believe he is currently ruling the heavenly kingdom. And allegedly they got all this from the same Bible as everyone else.
