How long does Ron DeSantis stay in 2nd place to Trump in primary polling? Will they pull the plug on him before he announces?
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I dont believe that he couldnt have fired Fauci it he wanted to. You really gonna throw a CNN piece at me? C'mon man, we disagree on this and still respect one another...dont throw CNN at me, disrespectful. Th article even states he could have fired him and kept him sidelined during appeal. Donald was way off on this.
Ok, you can believe whatever you want. You can also do your own research so you will at least know what you are talking about instead of going with your 'gut feeling'.
Or not.
Not exactly a gut feeling. It is a fact that Trump awarded Fauci. The article YOU linked states that Trump could have shelved Fauci by firing him and keeping him on the sideline during appeals. Thats the facts
I want the person who can do the best job. That is DONALD TRUMP. Next. I DO NOT want someone the Bush's and Karl Rove control. May as well be a democrat. If DeSantis goes this route...the writing is on the wall for people who pay attention. I do NOT think you do. You are lazy, and do not care about performance. you care about who is nicer. I do not give one half a **** about that.
No, that's not what the article stated. Here's what the article stated:
'Under federal law, Trump doesn’t have the power to directly fire Fauci, a career civil servant, and remove him from government. And while Trump could try ordering his political appointees to dismiss the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, Fauci could appeal – a time-consuming process.
The President does, however, have the power to sideline Fauci, keeping him away from press briefings and media interviews – as has happened in recent weeks, though Fauci has proven adept at pushing his message through different channels."
And you can't show this mystery 'award' that you believe Trump gave Fauci either.
This is why I don't waste my time arguing with people who are blind to reality. You want to believe that Trump chose not to fire Fauci, then turned around and gave him an award.
Ok, you do you.
She just wants Trump out. She thinks as long as that happens, it's best for America as well.
Dems completely agree with her position, as they usually do. Huh.
Trump issues commendations to Operation Warp Speed members, including Fauci, Birx
President Donald Trump issued commendations to a number of people, including Dr. Anthony Fauci and Dr. Deborah Birx, for their contributions to Operation Warp Speed on his final day in office.
Oh an award for Operation Warp Speed. Thought you were claiming he was given an award for working on the covid shots.Trump issues commendations to Operation Warp Speed members, including Fauci, Birx
President Donald Trump issued commendations to a number of people, including Dr. Anthony Fauci and Dr. Deborah Birx, for their contributions to Operation Warp Speed on his final day in office.www.fox2detroit.com
Mommy, DJT won the election in 2020.
A Soros+Rat STEAL is not winning, it's criminal election theft....
If there's a free and fair election in 2024 (questionable at best), he'd win again imoho....
If you believe otherwise, then imo, you need an honest election voter reality mind douche... 🤓
This goes back actually to 1881, when President James Garfield was assassinated by a would-be job seeker.We had a spoils system that had dominated the government employment base and it didn’t work. You had people coming into positions of public import who were there not because of their capability but because of their political connections. (imo, it's a worse spoils system now than it was in 1881)
Why, under the 'Pendleton Civil Service Reform Act' are FJB's appointments not being thrown out of their totally unearned positions???
This is a rule system that does not allow political leaders to remove or demote career civil servants without justification. And the justification has to be around poor performance, or failure to follow orders. (Dr Faulty is a many times proven LIAR)
And then there is a process that has to be followed even if there are allegations of performance or misconduct issues, and that process requires written notification and opportunity to respond.
So the President would not in this context be able to fire Dr. Fauci on the basis of not liking what Tony Fauci had to say. (but he certainly could on the basis of him being a proven LIAR!)
And I would have told Dr. Faulty that if he appealed his firing, that I'd then go after him with criminal prosecution for his involvement in the millions of murders due to his 'Gain of Function' paid for viral research with the Communist Red Chinese at WuHan..... (but then I'm not a swamp Rat or a RINO)
Why, under the 'Pendleton Civil Service Reform Act' are FJB's appointments not being thrown out of their totally unearned positions???
This is a rule system that does not allow political leaders to remove or demote career civil servants without justification. And the justification has to be around poor performance, or failure to follow orders. (Dr Faulty is a many times proven LIAR)
And then there is a process that has to be followed even if there are allegations of performance or misconduct issues, and that process requires written notification and opportunity to respond.
So the President would not in this context be able to fire Dr. Fauci on the basis of not liking what Tony Fauci had to say. (but he certainly could on the basis of him being a proven LIAR!)
And I would have told Dr. Faulty that if he appealed his firing, that I'd then go after him with criminal prosecution for his involvement in the millions of murders due to his 'Gain of Function' paid for viral research with the Communist Red Chinese at WuHan..... (but then I'm not a swamp Rat or a RINO)
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My theory that the DeSantis campaign will end before he officially announces he is running suddenly has legs.
If Desantis is EVER tied to these RINO's...he stands ZERO chance of being elected. RINO's somehow believe we do not see right through them. Trump exposed them for EXACTLY what they are...and they will NEVER be in power again in America. they think Trump and his movement in an anomaly.
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I do think Ron wants to be President, and I think he has allowed the RINOs to get in his ear and convince him that they can help push him to a win in 24.
If that's what happened, that makes him dumb, but it doesn't make him a RINO.
But it DOES mean he will never get my vote, and I'm guessing 99.99% of Trump supporters agree with me, which means he has a snowball's chance in Guam of winning even the primaries in 24.
RINOs are dems. I don't think DeSantis is a RINO, but maybe I am naive.
I do think Ron wants to be President, and I think he has allowed the RINOs to get in his ear and convince him that they can help push him to a win in 24.
If that's what happened, that makes him dumb, but it doesn't make him a RINO.
But it DOES mean he will never get my vote, and I'm guessing 99.99% of Trump supporters agree with me, which means he has a snowball's chance in Guam of winning even the primaries in 24.
I do not either. But if he has RINO support...he will owe them. And I cannot trust him if he does. He is rubbing elbows with Jebs supporters. Same people who love Romney, McCain, McConnell etc. Those peoples careers are over. There will be less and less of them, and they will be replaced by people who are REAL conservatives
He is definitely a globalist like the establishment Reps. Their strategy of trying to fool people on that backfired with his Ukraine waffling but we already have his past votes and interviews to show what he actually is.
A fair and honest election with one ID proven registered citizen to one vote, or who's running won't matter,,,, AGAIN! 😡
Fox News poll, survey dates March 24-27. His dig on Trump was March 20th. 30 point lead for Trump.
It's a long way to the finish line in the primaries. Trump would do well to focus on fighting the left, instead of slinging barbs at DeSantis. Same goes for DeSantis. Right now there is no real challenger to Trump except Trump himself. And that is the truth.
This is actually worrisome. I think the dems are beginning to see that they can't take Trump out legally. DeSantis was their hope, and as you can see, Trump has doubled his lead over Ron in a month.
And I think they see now that any Trumped up charges against him simply makes him more popular.
They are running out of options. I fear where this is headed.
Trump had better lay off of the personal attacks on OUR side. Friggin IDIOT Brandon and his dysfunctional family are VERY fair game...as well as everything he has done in his life have been failures
I guess Goldmom got surveyed...someone had to claim Liz Cheney.....
Well, nevermind. I forgot the Cardinal Rule of dealing with the dems: Never underestimate their capacity for stupidity LOL
You guys laughed at me when I said this a while back, but don’t be surprised if Christie or Pompeo are on the GOP ticket in 2024.
If Christie wins the nomination, our elections process has officially become compromised...and there could be no more doubt.
I get that he seems like a reasonable choice from a liberal perspective. But he isn't from a conservative perspective. At all.
This is spot on.
You and I have disagreed on plenty. You have been absolutely right on DeSantis and how he should be approaching 2028 (and not 2024).
I prefer (greatly) DeSantis to Trump.
He should ONLY enter 2024, if Trump pulls out.
Trump is a barbarian, per a prior post, he IS running a disciplined campaign and the primary base views Trump in messianic terms. That is a really bad set of headwinds to run against.
Thank you @grandhavendiddy. If you PM me your address, I will have my media relations team send you an 8X10 autographed (facsimile) picture.
I've said all along that the America First movement MUST go past Trump. If all we end up with is 1-2 terms of Trump, then it's back to RINOs and Dems, we've done nothing but delay the inevitable.
I have always hoped that DeSantis was the one that will take up the torch from Trump in 2028 and 2032. Maybe he still can. But it's vital that SOMEONE does.
Krispy Kreme wouldn’t make it through the first debate and primary
Glenn Beck is right
Of course. I see now that Trump surrendering is the right play vs fighting extradition. If he fights extradition, it would fire up his base, but it would force true independents to make a choice, and some would decide they didn't like his actions. Plus, it would give DeSantis some tailwind to help him fight it with no serious downside to DeSantis.
By surrendering, Trump provides a clear contrast between dems using the legal system to target political opponents while Trump stays true to Law and Order.
Everyone will side with Trump because he's the only one following the law here. The only few who will attack Trump for this are the TDS who would attack him for anything he does.
This doesn't surprise me as Team DeSantis/the Rep establishment wanted this in reality. The DeSantis statement doesn't even say Trump's name.
Also, to me, it kinda suggests that if he stayed and fought against it, it would appear to be a guilty defensive maneuver, whereas just going along suggests he has nothing to hide and will hit them hard.
