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How did those two idiots even find the UF campus???

You just don't get it, (on purpose?), and I'm not interested enough to spend the time needed to clarify it for you.

I will continue to focus on the Content of Character, (or lack thereof) and you can continue to 'cherry pick' focus on anything (including color) that makes you happy.... (but you got squat)
 
I got 'it' just fine. And that 'it' is you flailing around after having shown yourself. Keep at it.
 
I'm still confused why oozie is the perfect candidate to wipe athletes asses because...you know...black lives matter...


Still not sure how that plays but I assume insta will explain.

And I'll take him at his word that it wasn't racist, because that implies he actually knows anything, and therefore knows ooz is black (even though he totally does because it's been discussed for years with his days playing college ball)

So why else would he bring up BLM?

God Insta it has to suck when people actually do read your posts and get soaked in your nonsense.
 
oozie7 said:
So why are you willing to wait until a players senior year to judge his abilities, i.e. give him a chance to mature on the field, but you're not willing to give kids fresh out a HS a chance to mature off the field after one silly mistake before declaring them useless idiots? Try and make sense of that one for us.
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I felt like 2nd degree felonies are a bit much for bebe guns. I think I'll see it play out...yeah tearing up property isn't good but pay some restitution and move on. REALLY not that big of a deal IMO...
 
Dannygator1989 said:
I'm still confused why oozie is the perfect candidate to wipe athletes asses because...you know...black lives matter...


Still not sure how that plays but I assume insta will explain.

And I'll take him at his word that it wasn't racist, because that implies he actually knows anything, and therefore knows ooz is black (even though he totally does because it's been discussed for years with his days playing college ball)

So why else would he bring up BLM?

God Insta it has to suck when people actually do read your posts and get soaked in your nonsense.
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He knew what he was doing. But now he's doing the usual Insta thing...do something outlandish and then play the victim when called on it. You know, kinda like how he's been banned in pretty much every board he's ever been on but the reason for his bans is always because of everyone else, not him. Like how Swami only banned him because you and Swami were friends. LMAO.
 
oozie7 said:
So you don't care about color, you just chose to inject it into the thread because...potato. Got it.
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How I picture insta

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Oh, I totally agree with that alright.... o_O
There has never in history, been a player that didn't shine before his Sr season, so he should just be shunted off to the scout team until they can be rid of him....(kee-rist!) :rolleyes:
Now, go review WR Travis McGriff's career at UF, he's another with no SEC abilities... :cool:
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Before this thread got political and way off track was going to quote this and make a point.

McGriff shared a depth chart with some of the best WR's in UF history. Ike Hillard had a pretty descent and long NFL career. Jacquez Green and Reidel Anthony were at one point NFL starters. Then there is Chris Doering, the same WR you use in many examples of being a great WR.

When you have a talented roster at one position, one tends to not have a breakout year until the stars have graduated. Similar happened to Riley Cooper.

Tell me what stud WR's have been keeping Fullwood from shining the past three years? Andre Debose and DeMarcus Robinson?

Look I'm hoping Fullwood has 80 receptions for 1456 yards and 18 TD's but that view is a little hazy. If he didn't have a breakout year last year, I don't think he will this year.

But back to the regular scheduled program....
 
:confused: -- :rolleyes: -- :p -- :D:D:D

A-holes have no specific color,,, to whom it may concern (or whomever it might apply to). o_O

"The key to success is not just the players’ work ethic in the weight room or at practice, but their behavior and decision-making off the field — especially during the off season when they have a lot of free time on their hands." -- Jim McElwain

As bad as what the players did, is this kind of 'TEAM' repercussion...
Unfortunately for coach Jim McElwain, his ESPN Car Wash was tainted Tuesday by having to repeatedly address what happened.“I spend a day at ESPN talking about that rather than the fact that we were SEC East champions,” McElwain said on the Paul Finebaum Show.
 
instaGATOR said:
:confused: -- :rolleyes: -- :p -- :D:D:D

A-holes have no specific color,,, to whom it may concern (or whomever it might apply to). o_O

"The key to success is not just the players’ work ethic in the weight room or at practice, but their behavior and decision-making off the field — especially during the off season when they have a lot of free time on their hands." -- Jim McElwain

As bad as what the players did, is this kind of 'TEAM' repercussion...
Unfortunately for coach Jim McElwain, his ESPN Car Wash was tainted Tuesday by having to repeatedly address what happened.“I spend a day at ESPN talking about that rather than the fact that we were SEC East champions,” McElwain said on the Paul Finebaum Show.
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If your position is either we shouldn't recruit these kind of players, or else we should dismiss them immediately when they pull this kind of stuff, why quote McElwain? He recruited them and he's going to keep them.

I think dismissal would be harsh for this particular offense, presuming there's nothing more to it then what's been reported, but I don't think it's nothing. Shooting up your dorm with a bb gun a couple months after you show up to campus sounds like pretty entitled behavior. Whatever punishment Cleveland gets, I hope it's enough to wake him up to the opportunity he has at UF.
 
As usual Insta picks and chooses what to report. McElwain also said this:

"As a teacher, as a coach, you go through every single day trying to help all these young men learn from past historical data. And that's where we're at. These guys will be dealt with and it will be taken care of."

See, unlike you he understands young people will make mistakes and they don't have to be tossed aside after one of em. Particularly because he goes into living rooms and tells parents he can help turn their young boys into young men. But you probably see all these players as replaceable chips, so the first time one dares displease you just replace them with another rented mule. Why even try to educate them? They're just there to amuse.
 
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Wrong and stupid as always. I had (before now) no clue who is white, black, or other posting here. I guess I don't pay enough attention to pick out the tells, cause I don't freakin' care. Best I can see/tell, A-holes can come in any color and from any culture. Good and Bad, right and wrong, are the choices, not white, black, or other. And in my dictionary, the N-word applies to actions, not skin colors.

I do however find it funny (hypocrisy) that cracker, whitie, honkey, redneck, etc. are not on the forbidden list of 'racist' words that can't be said in public. o_O

What many don't realize is that the difference between the whitest white, and the darkest white, has a larger color contrast that comparing the average white to the average black. Color doesn't matter at all, to anyone with a working brain and even a half way decent upbringing.

The insinuation that I only go after black Gator players is an outright and obvious BS lie.
Was skitzo Kyle Morris black?
Was rich MLB contract Doug Johnson black?
Was pretty party-boy Rex Gross-man black?
Was 'screw the pooch' Will Grier black?
~ Was Chris Leak (who I've always defended, player or coach) white?
~ Was Kelvin Taylor white?
~ Is Ahmad Fulwood white?

It's the choices you make that define who and what you are once you are an adult.
At 18, you can vote and you can kill or die for your country. Kids are U-14, not 18+.

Ask not what your color can do for you, ask what you can do for your color.... :rolleyes:

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Did I advocate for any specific punishment in my initial post? ---- No
I said that I wouldn't blink if their ships were pulled, and I wouldn't.
I also stated that it was unlikely to happen.
And I asked a rhetorical question about how smart they both were.
I then invited the 'entitled athlete' excuses that I was sure to come.
I was not disappointed. Carry on....:cool:

PS

I wouldn't have any of you excuses/excuse-makers for my children, given the option... :p

When you were born, I'm betting that the doctor slapped your momma instead of you. :D
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Here is the thing though bro if your are from FLORIDA it doesn't matter if your white, black, green, purple, blue, or jew, your a CRACKER!!!!
 
You guys should probably just boot them. Any kid who gets into bb gun fights never amounts to much anyway.
 
TennesseeGator said:
Before this thread got political and way off track was going to quote this and make a point.

McGriff shared a depth chart with some of the best WR's in UF history. Ike Hillard had a pretty descent and long NFL career. Jacquez Green and Reidel Anthony were at one point NFL starters. Then there is Chris Doering, the same WR you use in many examples of being a great WR.

When you have a talented roster at one position, one tends to not have a breakout year until the stars have graduated. Similar happened to Riley Cooper.

Tell me what stud WR's have been keeping Fullwood from shining the past three years? Andre Debose and DeMarcus Robinson?

Look I'm hoping Fullwood has 80 receptions for 1456 yards and 18 TD's but that view is a little hazy. If he didn't have a breakout year last year, I don't think he will this year.

But back to the regular scheduled program....
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And we are deeper now with playmakers at that position than in the past 3 years. I just don't see Fulwood being a key contrbuter with the explosive playmakers we finally have at that position. Calloway was a playmaker from day 1, sorry, WR rarely take 4 years to show they are playmakers. Fulwood is a typical Muschamp tape measure recruit, nothing more
 
That is a joke. A 2nd degree felony equal to DUI manslaughter for BB guns. Somehow I don't think the legislature intended that when they drew up that charge. Too bad the UPD didn't use a little discretion and let the state make the call on that charge. That arrest will follow them the rest of their lives whether the charge is dropped later or not.
 
Gator Fever said:
That is a joke. A 2nd degree felony equal to DUI manslaughter for BB guns. Somehow I don't think the legislature intended that when they drew up that charge. Too bad the UPD didn't use a little discretion and let the state make the call on that charge. That arrest will follow them the rest of their lives whether the charge is dropped later or not.
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Immature, borderline moronic... well maybe. Habitual criminal, protect society from them .... please... not so much. Sit for a cupcake, restitution, community service , set an example, and call it a learning opportunity .
 
Nolec said:
Immature, borderline moronic... well maybe. Habitual criminal, protect society from them .... please... not so much. Sit for a cupcake, restitution, community service , set an example, and call it a learning opportunity .
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The problem is most companies will toss your resume in the trash once they see a felony arrest if you make it to a background check whether it was dropped or not.
 
MJWilliamson said:
A first time offender can get the charge exhumed.
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Not if they have an adjudication for anything no matter how minor the charge is. If you have even a no DL charge that isn't dismissed you are ineligible for that. I could be wrong but if this is downgraded to 2 misdemeanors that they serve any sentence on that makes them ineligible also because of the 2nd charge.
 
Gator Fever said:
Not if they have an adjudication for anything no matter how minor the charge is. If you have even a no DL charge that isn't dismissed you are ineligible for that. I could be wrong but if this is downgraded to 2 misdemeanors that they serve any sentence on that makes them ineligible also because of the 2nd charge.
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You are the lawyer, so I will take your superior knowledge on the matter.

I think a pre-trial diversion can *exhume* (for you Evilwayz) certain kinds of first time arrests.
 
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You are the lawyer, so I will take your superior knowledge on the matter.

I think a pre-trial diversion can *exhume* (for you Evilwayz) certain kinds of first time arrests.
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I am not a lawyer I just know if you have any misdemeanor in Florida no matter how minor and it isn't dismissed basically you are ineligible to have any other arrest record expunged. I am not 100% sure if a misdemeanor that had the adjudication withheld makes you ineligible or not - my memory is a little bad on that but I know most people get adjudicated on misdemeanors not even knowing that could be an issue in the future. I remember that from when I worked parole/probation years ago.

I did just read something talking about if the charges are from the same incident it changes the rules some on sealing/expunging a record.
 
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At least 3x loserTH is now gonzo, (his choice apparently)... :oops:

Dragging down UF is not a problem, just like felony arrests are not a problem.
I'm converted now. Sit them down and ask them nicely to learn (cause they arrived empty headed apparently), and beg them not to do it again.

After all, that's always worked in the past (TH), and anyway, the 'entitled athlete' is way more important than the University of Florida will ever be, cause they have made UF what it is, it's not the other way around... :confused:

PS

I defended Chris Leak as UF's QB and as a coach. I defended Kelvin Taylor. And most recently I've defended Ahmad Fulwood, so those guys are all white, right? (character)

I now have it on good authority that only crackers, whities, honkys, rednecks, etc, can be called racist. It's impossible for anyone of 'color' to ever be a racist, so just damn on me... :(Some of my own black relatives explained it to me so that my old dumb-azz could understand it... :cool: --- So exxxxxcuuuuusseeeeeee me! :confused:

BTW, has anyone informed George Carlin that it's 8 censored words, not just 7.... ;)
 
So you're once again bringing race into the equation after going on another nonsensical rant for what purpose? You have severe issues. You're so dumb you can't even see the flaw in your own 'thinking.' You assume people are defending the players because they're black, that's a racist assumption. You assume a black poster supports BLM and then go on a political rant for no reason at all, that's a racist assumption. Do you get it now or have the meds not sunk in yet? If it was about character from the beginning why bring race into it at all? Or are you just spinning and deflecting like you always do?

I also find tons of comedy of a character speech coming from you when you've been found to be lying on this very board numerous times, sometimes even in the same thread. What man feels the need to lie on a message board? Safe to say whatever players you are bashing probably have more character than you.
 
Wow! I guess I should just be happy that you haven't formed a lynch party for me yet... :eek:

Judgment and Prejudice are not the same things.
Also, there is a very large gap between words and actions.
What amuses me most, is that you believe that you are not a racist, but that I certainly am....

Despite all of your delusions and assumptions, YOU don't know me.
I also don't know you, nor do I wish to at this point. o_O

Nothing that you claim / that I assume, will change you or your own bogus attitudes.
I fully expected that several here would come out full force in support of their entitled athletes, and I admit to not having been disappointed. You and a few others have done exactly as I expected you to do, so thank you very much and bub-bye... :cool:

I will now leave this thread to any who still wish to beat the 'entitled athletes' dead horse...
 
You lie/have lied on a message board numerous times. Thus your rants about character fall on deaf ears.
 
Gator Fever said:
I am not a lawyer I just know if you have any misdemeanor in Florida no matter how minor and it isn't dismissed basically you are ineligible to have any other arrest record expunged. I am not 100% sure if a misdemeanor that had the adjudication withheld makes you ineligible or not - my memory is a little bad on that but I know most people get adjudicated on misdemeanors not even knowing that could be an issue in the future. I remember that from when I worked parole/probation years ago.

I did just read something talking about if the charges are from the same incident it changes the rules some on sealing/expunging a record.
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I use to work in Law Enforcement so I can tell you about Expunge of cases. If you are found GUILTY or plead NO CONTEST you can have your filed SEALED or Expunge. Basically SEALED. There are certain crimes you cannot have them sealed such as Sexual Battery, Sexual Misconduct, Kidnapping, Murder, ....you get catch my point...The ONLY TWO misdemeanors I can think or remember that cannot be expunged is DUI and Domestic Violence. I left the SO in 2002 so there could be some more misdemeanors that were added but those were the TWO MOST COMMON off the top of my head that I could remember. In the case of these two players from the looks of it they can have their cases sealed IF they plea out but I can tell you it cost a lot of money to do that and it doesn't come cheap. I knew a few people who did it.
 
HardeeWildcatFan said:
I use to work in Law Enforcement so I can tell you about Expunge of cases. If you are found GUILTY or plead NO CONTEST you can have your filed SEALED or Expunge. Basically SEALED. There are certain crimes you cannot have them sealed such as Sexual Battery, Sexual Misconduct, Kidnapping, Murder, ....you get catch my point...The ONLY TWO misdemeanors I can think or remember that cannot be expunged is DUI and Domestic Violence. I left the SO in 2002 so there could be some more misdemeanors that were added but those were the TWO MOST COMMON off the top of my head that I could remember. In the case of these two players from the looks of it they can have their cases sealed IF they plea out but I can tell you it cost a lot of money to do that and it doesn't come cheap. I knew a few people who did it.
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On that first part my memory is a little bad but I do remember a few people getting a Felony 3 sealed but they all had their adjudication withheld on the charge when sentenced and no other adjudications ever for anything criminal so my guess would be misdemeanors would be the same as far as having them expunged. Pleading no contest I think has nothing to do with it legally just whether you were adjudication withheld or not by the court.

Saw this on the net and it pretty much backs up you can never have been adjudicated by a court for any other crime no matter how minor it is and it seems to say you must be adjudication withheld on the charge you are requesting to have sealed/expunged also. (other places confirm this also)

My memory was that misdemeanor DUIs that aren't reduced to a reckless driving etc. are by law ineligible to have adjudication withheld so they could never be sealed or expunged anyway.

Eligibility criteria to receive an expungement

To be eligible to receive an expungement in Florida, the applicant must:

1. Never have been adjudicated guilty of a criminal offense or comparable ordinance violation, or been adjudicated delinquent for committing any felony or a misdemeanor specified in s. 943.051(3)(b)

2. Never been adjudicated guilty of, or adjudicated delinquent for committing, any of the acts stemming from the arrest or alleged criminal activity to which the petition pertains;

3. Have had their charge(s) dropped or dismissed by the state attorney, statewide prosecutor, or by a court of competent jurisdiction, and not had any of charges related to the arrest or alleged criminal activity to which the petition to expunge pertains result in a trial;

4. Never have secured a prior sealing or expunction of a criminal history record in Florida or from any jurisdiction outside the state, unless expunction is sought of a criminal history record previously sealed for 10 years and the record is otherwise eligible for expunction.

5. Be eligible for such an expunction to the best of his or her knowledge or belief and must not have any other petition to expunge or any petition to seal pending before any court.

Edit: I also see some lawyers are saying only a dismissed case can be expunged basically and that an adjudication withheld case is only eligible for sealing of the record.
 
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oozie7 said:
You lie/have lied on a message board numerous times. Thus your rants about character fall on deaf ears.
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Proving that I'm not an entitled athlete that would get an automatic pass from you....

Mistaken, miss spoke, incorrect = Lied

Oopps, since I'd claimed to have already left this thread, this rebuttal means that I have lied yet again! Balif, wack his p-p..... :oops: ------------- :rolleyes: -- :p -- :cool:
 
LOL. Are you not entertained??? We have a legit clinical patient in our midst.
 
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