How come nobody cares about the multiple blacks killed in Chicago every weekend
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I know there’s no such thing as aliens.Don't know much of anything would have been closer to correct...
Don't know much of anything would have been closer to correct...
And as I've said before, it's not so much that you're ignorant, it's that you know so many things that just aren't true...
--- There's something about the concept of an 'infinite universe' that your tiny pea-brain can't encompass apparently.... I had a Top Secret clearance in the military. Did you?
I knew 1st hand about these things 51 years ago, that the public is just now getting a look at. These are just the very 'tip of the iceberg' of what's in the Pentagon's files....
Weather balloons.And as I've said before, it's not so much that you're ignorant, it's that you know so many things that just aren't true...
I had a Top Secret clearance in the military. Did you?
I knew 1st hand about these things 51 years ago, that the public is just now getting a look at. These are just the very 'tip of the iceberg' of what's in the Pentagon's files....
They are still working on an angle to link white guilt with those homicides. Once they get the perfect lie then CNN will run with it.
Another bloody weekend in Chicago. Dems haven't figured out how to leverage it politically, so it gets ignored.
Sheep still asleep?
They can't spin this for racism or they'd be all over the issue.
Hillary at Benghazi?
We'll never see her behind bars. But perhaps if we get the congress and senate and get rid of "talk but no action" Lindsey Graham, things may change.
Yeah, he has consistently been using the narrative that certain people will be held accountable and every time no one takes a hit. Rosenstein having to admit he was simply incompetent to avoid being charged with a crime was pretty fulfilling though.
Not me. I want a reckoning.
I know. I'm identifying them for them. You're welcome.
I sure as hell know they haven't been identified as aliens.
Chuckle....
However, the Navy Commander that was flying the F-18 Super Hornet said that whatever they were, they exhibited flight characteristics that exists nowhere 'man made' on Earth.
Black lives matter?
18 murders in 24 hours: the most violent day in 60 years according to state run Chicago Sun times.
where CNN? La Thug? Popobitch ?
https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/...violence-murder-history-homicide-police-crime
18 murders in 24 hours: the most violent day in 60 years according to state run Chicago Sun times.
where CNN? La Thug? Popobitch ?
https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/...violence-murder-history-homicide-police-crime
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The answer to the thread starter question is that nobody on the left, politicians and media, same thing, gives a crap about young black men dying by the dozens in Chicago because it's a very uncomfortable or impossible situation for progressives to talk about. Blacks killing blacks means nothing. If they bring attention to it, the finger points right back to them. If whites were being killed in a city in those numbers, there would be a national uproar.
So Black Lives Matter is bulls**t in this regard. Not ALL black lives matter. Many are expendable.
George Floyd being dead is worth a hell of a lot more to the left than George Floyd being alive was ever gonna be. I'm sorry folks but that man and his family have been exploited to an obscene level. Rahm Emanuel's famous words of "never let a crisis go to waste" have never rung truer.
Why doesn't Al Sharpton go to St Louis and eulogize a 77 year old black retired cop murdered by looters? Is it that he was a cop or was it being shot by a looter that doesn't fit the agenda?
So is the VALUE of David Dorn's life on the same level as that of George Floyd? Not in the eyes of the left or black lives matter or anybody else seeing George Floyd as a winning lottery ticket.
And those young black men in Chicago? Don' t expect to see Al or Jesse anytime soon.
And we even had a lib on here just a week ago in reference to Chicago shootings say the following:
"Gang Violence. Let them kill each other. It bothers me not". Which certainly proves that to some on the left, not ALL black lives matter. Just certain ones.
So Black Lives Matter is bulls**t in this regard. Not ALL black lives matter. Many are expendable.
George Floyd being dead is worth a hell of a lot more to the left than George Floyd being alive was ever gonna be. I'm sorry folks but that man and his family have been exploited to an obscene level. Rahm Emanuel's famous words of "never let a crisis go to waste" have never rung truer.
Why doesn't Al Sharpton go to St Louis and eulogize a 77 year old black retired cop murdered by looters? Is it that he was a cop or was it being shot by a looter that doesn't fit the agenda?
So is the VALUE of David Dorn's life on the same level as that of George Floyd? Not in the eyes of the left or black lives matter or anybody else seeing George Floyd as a winning lottery ticket.
And those young black men in Chicago? Don' t expect to see Al or Jesse anytime soon.
And we even had a lib on here just a week ago in reference to Chicago shootings say the following:
"Gang Violence. Let them kill each other. It bothers me not". Which certainly proves that to some on the left, not ALL black lives matter. Just certain ones.
Didn't happen in Chicago, but we've seen this before, haven't we?
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...-racist-anti-black-graffiti-salisbury-campus/
A 54-year-old man says he will plead guilty to charges relating to racial graffiti found on Salisbury University’s campus.
Jerome Kevin Jackson, of Princess Anne, plans to plead guilty to maliciously defacing school property “while exhibiting racial animosity,” according to the State’s Attorney’s Office. The crime is labeled as a hate crime.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...-racist-anti-black-graffiti-salisbury-campus/
A 54-year-old man says he will plead guilty to charges relating to racial graffiti found on Salisbury University’s campus.
Jerome Kevin Jackson, of Princess Anne, plans to plead guilty to maliciously defacing school property “while exhibiting racial animosity,” according to the State’s Attorney’s Office. The crime is labeled as a hate crime.
Now big businesses are slowly starting to bail on liberal run cities.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...ow-pleading-walmart-companies-not-leave-city/
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...ow-pleading-walmart-companies-not-leave-city/
Black lives don't matter if the same race decides to kill them.
Last weekend in Chicago, 30 shot, 5 dead.
But that was a relief, not as bad as the weekend before last.
50 shot with 18 dead..
So obviously, in the Windy City, black lives matter very little....
And none were killed by those nasty racist police.
But that was a relief, not as bad as the weekend before last.
50 shot with 18 dead..
So obviously, in the Windy City, black lives matter very little....
And none were killed by those nasty racist police.
Soon the rash of businesses that leave these areas will be labeled as racist for leaving. White America and systemic racism will be blamed as well....which will be partly true because there were a lot of white faces mixed in with the antifa crowd that were burning these businesses to the crowd.
Irony is ironic.
Almost have no sympathy for Target when they initially planned to install Obama bathrooms and eliminate all gender signs(boys, girls, men's and women's clothing signs) throughout their stores.
trannys play hide the carrot with young boys. Target can rot
Chcago Mayor Lori Lightfoot (D), one of the loudest and most vocal supporters of the recent Antifa and BLM riots, is now in the uncomfortable position of having to beg and plead with large retailers not to permanently close up shop:
It’s not certain whether the Democrats understand how civilization works anymore; they probably forgot to learn that in between the gender studies and ethnic studies that passes for “learning” in schools these days.
If they stay in that chit-hole, they will deserve whatever happens to them in the future.
https://www.spartareport.com/2020/06/panicked-mayor-begs-big-business-not-to-leave-chicago/
It’s not certain whether the Democrats understand how civilization works anymore; they probably forgot to learn that in between the gender studies and ethnic studies that passes for “learning” in schools these days.
If they stay in that chit-hole, they will deserve whatever happens to them in the future.
https://www.spartareport.com/2020/06/panicked-mayor-begs-big-business-not-to-leave-chicago/
Chcago Mayor Lori Lightfoot (D), one of the loudest and most vocal supporters of the recent Antifa and BLM riots, is now in the uncomfortable position of having to beg and plead with large retailers not to permanently close up shop:
It’s not certain whether the Democrats understand how civilization works anymore; they probably forgot to learn that in between the gender studies and ethnic studies that passes for “learning” in schools these days.
If they stay in that chit-hole, they will deserve whatever happens to them in the future.
https://www.spartareport.com/2020/06/panicked-mayor-begs-big-business-not-to-leave-chicago/
“One of the hallmarks of basic civilization is security. If there isn’t security, businesses cannot operate and commerce cannot thrive.”
A key point I have made on several occasions in response to this looting and unfunding police
Hmmmm.
George Floyd, Derek Chauvin Had Friction Working Together as Nightclub Security Guards: Coworker
David Pinney's remarks echo claims made by Floyd's family that George's death was, in part, personal
CHRIS HARRIS
According to a man who claims he worked at the same Minneapolis nightclub that once employed George Floyd and his alleged killer, disgraced policeman Derek Chauvin, the two men were well acquainted, and, at times, "bumped heads" over the officer's aggressive handling of the club's patrons
George Floyd, Derek Chauvin Had Friction Working Together as Nightclub Security Guards: Coworker
David Pinney's remarks echo claims made by Floyd's family that George's death was, in part, personal
CHRIS HARRIS
According to a man who claims he worked at the same Minneapolis nightclub that once employed George Floyd and his alleged killer, disgraced policeman Derek Chauvin, the two men were well acquainted, and, at times, "bumped heads" over the officer's aggressive handling of the club's patrons
If true then he's in deeper crap than previously believed, as he should be. If not, the crap is still pretty freaking deep.
@BamaFan1137
This is NOT a news source nor do I claim any type of veracity about the information inside including evidence presented or claims of the author that he is a lawyer.
Found this interesting and disturbing. Is this another "hand up dont shoot?" If the "lawyer" is correct and Chauvin walks what happens in regards to violent protests?
Should neck restraints be banned as a tool? Do you feel you can do you job without having that "tool" available?
Anyway have a look at the possible exculpatory evidence and give your opinion.
be sure and read his links to his blog for the actual case he makes
This is NOT a news source nor do I claim any type of veracity about the information inside including evidence presented or claims of the author that he is a lawyer.
Found this interesting and disturbing. Is this another "hand up dont shoot?" If the "lawyer" is correct and Chauvin walks what happens in regards to violent protests?
Should neck restraints be banned as a tool? Do you feel you can do you job without having that "tool" available?
Anyway have a look at the possible exculpatory evidence and give your opinion.
be sure and read his links to his blog for the actual case he makes
A lot to digest and I have many comments and questions. But quickly...
Neck restraints, choke holds are typically prohibited unless used in the defense of human life (your own, theirs or the public's). See exigent circumstances.
There are gaps in the video but the case can be made that those circumstances existed at some point in this case. I do not believe that it can be justified for the length of time it was used however. Once he was no longer a threat to himself or others, your tactics must change. That never happened and that's why I say Chauvin is in "deep crap."
I have more to read and probably more to add but I'm headed to the doctor so I'll try later. Interesting stuff though, nice find.
Read a bit more and closely watched all the video. Like I thought, neck restraint and choke holds are viable options but only under certain circumstances and even then certain protocols must be followed.
I don't know for a certainty that those conditions existed for the type Chauvin used but I believe that it is probable they did. Where Chauvin is going to run into problems is that he continued to use that hold for longer than reasonable and that, imo, will lead him to be convicted of Murder 3.
I don't believe that a reasonable person would have remained on his neck for almost 9 minutes. In fact, a reasonable LEO would have changed tactics once he felt Floyd's muscles begin to relax especially since he had help on scene in the form of fellow officers.
Suspended from duty and then fired. (correct immediate action imo)
Thoroughly Investigated (correct action imo)
Charged for manslaughter not murder, if the above is factual and correct.
A drugged up career criminal attempting to pass counterfeit money.
To treat career criminal George Floyd like he's Mother Theresa is BS imo....
A bad cop imo, and any like him should not be on any Police force.
That is the management job of the Mayor, the City Council, and/or Police Commissioner.
If you're going to de-fund the police, then start with the above mismanagement group.
While the other 98% of the police force should be further instructed to prevent a repeat.
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1st comes political corruption.
Then follows abuse of authority at many levels.
Root cause is ignorance and/or apathy concerning all citizens personal civic responsibilities.
Results, everybody points a finger at someone else, instead of everyone dealing with the problems.
Solution, riot, loot, and burn until the full scale civil war breaks out.
Kill them all and let God sort them out.... (cynical military slogan)
The winners, if there are any, can start all over and try to get it right next time....
Don't blame me for that,,, I had a dental appointment today....
Thoroughly Investigated (correct action imo)
Charged for manslaughter not murder, if the above is factual and correct.
A drugged up career criminal attempting to pass counterfeit money.
To treat career criminal George Floyd like he's Mother Theresa is BS imo....
A bad cop imo, and any like him should not be on any Police force.
That is the management job of the Mayor, the City Council, and/or Police Commissioner.
If you're going to de-fund the police, then start with the above mismanagement group.
While the other 98% of the police force should be further instructed to prevent a repeat.
==========
1st comes political corruption.
Then follows abuse of authority at many levels.
Root cause is ignorance and/or apathy concerning all citizens personal civic responsibilities.
Results, everybody points a finger at someone else, instead of everyone dealing with the problems.
Solution, riot, loot, and burn until the full scale civil war breaks out.
Kill them all and let God sort them out.... (cynical military slogan)
The winners, if there are any, can start all over and try to get it right next time....
Don't blame me for that,,, I had a dental appointment today....
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From the blog:
If factual here is the exculpatory evidence
1.) Floyd is dead of heart attack/failure at 8:24
At 8:24:24 P.M., Mr. Floyd stopped moving. At 8:25:31 P.M., the video showed Mr. Floyd ceased to breathe or speak. Lane said, “want to roll him on his side.” Kueng checked Mr. Floyd’s right wrist for a pulse and said, “I couldn’t find one.” None of the officers moved from their positions.
See point 6
He is dead!
2.) He has probably ODed or had a heart attack due to the situation , health issues and drugs combination
However, the complaint states that the Medical Examiner’s preliminary findings state that George Floyd did NOT die of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation. This means that all possible causes of death that come from Derek Chauvin’s knee were NOT the cause of George Floyd’s death. Instead, it says that a combination of coronary artery disease, hypertension, and (this is where the case falls apart) potential intoxicants in his system. That means “drugs.”
3.) stats show 66% of EXD victims die before they can get to hospital under ideal situations . Floyd's situation is less than ideal!
Approximately two thirds of EXD victims die at the scene or during transport by paramedics or police. Victims who do not immediately come to police attention are often found dead in the bathroom surrounded by wet towels and/or clothing and empty ice trays, apparently succumbing during failed attempts to rapidly cool down. It appears that in all cases, victims died of either respiratory arrest or fatal cardiac dysrrhythmia.
ME claims Floyd died of just those causes supporting death by EXD.
4.) Lane questions the senior officer about the current use of force and is assured that the reason that force is being used is because of suspected EXD. Remember paramedics were called before Floyd was restrained probably out of concern for EXD and EXD kill 66% of its victims before they get to hospital. Since paramedics have been called, they choose to restrain him until they arrive and can deal with the probably medical issue of EXD instead of continuing to get him into the car for transport.
Officer Lane said, “I am worried about excited delirium or whatever.” The defendant said, “That’s why we have him on his stomach.” None of the three officers moved from their positions.
5.)MPD rules and definitions:
Neck Restraint: Non-deadly force option. Defined as compressing one or both sides of a person’s neck with an arm or leg, without applying direct pressure to the trachea or airway (front of the neck). Only sworn employees who have received training from the MPD Training Unit are authorized to use neck restraints. The MPD authorizes two types of neck restraints: Conscious Neck Restraint and Unconscious Neck Restraint. (04/16/12)
Conscious Neck Restraint: The subject is placed in a neck restraint with intent to control, and not to render the subject unconscious, by only applying light to moderate pressure. (04/16/12)
6.) Video transcript shows Chauvin reaches for mace right after Floyd has expired but puts it back. He says nothing and continues to follow procedure. No one but him and his men know for sure that Floyd is dead for those last 3 min and he has a hostile crowd watching. Procedure explains the odd behavior of just staring at Floyd when they know he is dead:
After a neck restraint or choke hold has been used on a subject, sworn MPD employees shall keep them under close observation until they are released to medical or other law enforcement personnel.
Well if true doubt they can prove anything beyond a reasonable doubt even though Chauvin has/had a history of complaints about his performance and use of force.
If acquitted how bad do the riots get?
Personally and I am not in your shoes I would like to see cops receive less paramilitary/ martial arts type training and not be allowed to use choke hold or other potentially lethal measures of force. SWAT excluded. If it escalates to lethal force then shoot the offender. That being said its possible and probable that the knee did not cause Floyds death. Video can not show the level of pressure being exerted.
Also how much of this rioting has been ginned up by the left and the media?
Rahm Emmanuel is probably smiling like a Cheshire cat right now.
If factual here is the exculpatory evidence
1.) Floyd is dead of heart attack/failure at 8:24
At 8:24:24 P.M., Mr. Floyd stopped moving. At 8:25:31 P.M., the video showed Mr. Floyd ceased to breathe or speak. Lane said, “want to roll him on his side.” Kueng checked Mr. Floyd’s right wrist for a pulse and said, “I couldn’t find one.” None of the officers moved from their positions.
See point 6
He is dead!
2.) He has probably ODed or had a heart attack due to the situation , health issues and drugs combination
However, the complaint states that the Medical Examiner’s preliminary findings state that George Floyd did NOT die of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation. This means that all possible causes of death that come from Derek Chauvin’s knee were NOT the cause of George Floyd’s death. Instead, it says that a combination of coronary artery disease, hypertension, and (this is where the case falls apart) potential intoxicants in his system. That means “drugs.”
3.) stats show 66% of EXD victims die before they can get to hospital under ideal situations . Floyd's situation is less than ideal!
Approximately two thirds of EXD victims die at the scene or during transport by paramedics or police. Victims who do not immediately come to police attention are often found dead in the bathroom surrounded by wet towels and/or clothing and empty ice trays, apparently succumbing during failed attempts to rapidly cool down. It appears that in all cases, victims died of either respiratory arrest or fatal cardiac dysrrhythmia.
ME claims Floyd died of just those causes supporting death by EXD.
4.) Lane questions the senior officer about the current use of force and is assured that the reason that force is being used is because of suspected EXD. Remember paramedics were called before Floyd was restrained probably out of concern for EXD and EXD kill 66% of its victims before they get to hospital. Since paramedics have been called, they choose to restrain him until they arrive and can deal with the probably medical issue of EXD instead of continuing to get him into the car for transport.
Officer Lane said, “I am worried about excited delirium or whatever.” The defendant said, “That’s why we have him on his stomach.” None of the three officers moved from their positions.
5.)MPD rules and definitions:
Neck Restraint: Non-deadly force option. Defined as compressing one or both sides of a person’s neck with an arm or leg, without applying direct pressure to the trachea or airway (front of the neck). Only sworn employees who have received training from the MPD Training Unit are authorized to use neck restraints. The MPD authorizes two types of neck restraints: Conscious Neck Restraint and Unconscious Neck Restraint. (04/16/12)
Conscious Neck Restraint: The subject is placed in a neck restraint with intent to control, and not to render the subject unconscious, by only applying light to moderate pressure. (04/16/12)
6.) Video transcript shows Chauvin reaches for mace right after Floyd has expired but puts it back. He says nothing and continues to follow procedure. No one but him and his men know for sure that Floyd is dead for those last 3 min and he has a hostile crowd watching. Procedure explains the odd behavior of just staring at Floyd when they know he is dead:
After a neck restraint or choke hold has been used on a subject, sworn MPD employees shall keep them under close observation until they are released to medical or other law enforcement personnel.
Well if true doubt they can prove anything beyond a reasonable doubt even though Chauvin has/had a history of complaints about his performance and use of force.
If acquitted how bad do the riots get?
Personally and I am not in your shoes I would like to see cops receive less paramilitary/ martial arts type training and not be allowed to use choke hold or other potentially lethal measures of force. SWAT excluded. If it escalates to lethal force then shoot the offender. That being said its possible and probable that the knee did not cause Floyds death. Video can not show the level of pressure being exerted.
Also how much of this rioting has been ginned up by the left and the media?
Rahm Emmanuel is probably smiling like a Cheshire cat right now.
Not sure that you can nail his time of death down quite so succinctly.
Also not an expert on Minnesota law but Depraved Indifference or Willful Indifference could also come into play.
Legit concern but I pray that is NOT a consideration in determining guilt or innocence. That's not justice and justice is required, period.
Agree to disagree here. That type of training saves lives. I don't have a number on the total lives saved but it has probably saved mine and I know it has prevented me from taking a life on one occasion. It's another tool in our bag and more tools are better imho.
