Including the Vietnam war, has America ever looked more impotent then it does currently after this Afghanistan fiasco?
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Jimmy Carter and IranIncluding the Vietnam war, has America ever looked more impotent then it does currently after this Afghanistan fiasco?
Jimmy Carter and Iran
Over 400 days. HostagesMaybe, still doesn’t seem as bad though as this.
I will say it was an interesting corollary in reverse because notice how quickly those passages came home once the new Reagan was going to be the president and notice how quickly things fell apart once I knew Trump was no longer the president
Not in my lifetime, this is truly disgusting, every angle is a lie, or contradiction, they are inept & the world sees it on center stage.Including the Vietnam war, has America ever looked more impotent then it does currently after this Afghanistan fiasco?
I don’t think the US has seen this level of inept leadership in history.Including the Vietnam war, has America ever looked more impotent then it does currently after this Afghanistan fiasco?
When your posture is one of strength & you do what you say, the deterrence is there. When you’re a 50yr loser politician who everyone knows is a bag of hot air, it’s laughable, he’s known as the weak frail old man, there’s no deterrence there & our country is worse off for it.Maybe, still doesn’t seem as bad though as this.
I will say it was an interesting corollary in reverse because notice how quickly those passages came home once the new Reagan was going to be the president and notice how quickly things fell apart once I knew Trump was no longer the president
Just tin foil hattingNot in my lifetime, this is truly disgusting, every angle is a lie, or contradiction, they are inept & the world sees it on center stage.
Every situation is so sad and could have been avoided if it wasnt for politics.Maybe, still doesn’t seem as bad though as this.
I will say it was an interesting corollary in reverse because notice how quickly those passages came home once the new Reagan was going to be the president and notice how quickly things fell apart once I knew Trump was no longer the president
Ugh, it’s so depressingJust tin foil hatting
When you have a President whose whole family is compromised by other countries you could get leveraged and blackmailed.
Pulling out like this and destabilizing that area benefits China. And right on cue China conducted military exercises off the coast of Taiwan. They’ve also formally recognized the Taliban govt. Now China has an ally in a very strategic location. There’s no spin that makes that good for US interests.
No tin foil hatting, I don’t think you’re wrong, but it disgusting & treason for leaving Americans behind enemy lines should be punishable by death. Public firing squad in DC would do.Just tin foil hatting
When you have a President whose whole family is compromised by other countries you could get leveraged and blackmailed.
Pulling out like this and destabilizing that area benefits China. And right on cue China conducted military exercises off the coast of Taiwan. They’ve also formally recognized the Taliban govt. Now China has an ally in a very strategic location. There’s no spin that makes that good for US interests.
Jimmy Carter and Iran
Maybe, still doesn’t seem as bad though as this.
I will say it was an interesting corollary in reverse because notice how quickly those passages came home once the new Reagan was going to be the president and notice how quickly things fell apart once I knew Trump was no longer the president
I miss Ronald ReaganI think the hostage crisis was worse...at least so far. We were absolutely impotent. We could act now. We're making the choice not to.
Iran made us cry uncle...right up until we elected a guy who scared the shit out of everyone.
Biden administration definitely was caught off guard but ill say Iraq was worse. A lot of overreacting but that's how politics work.Including the Vietnam war, has America ever looked more impotent then it does currently after this Afghanistan fiasco?
I was Iraq worse? I’m not following you on that oneBiden administration definitely was caught off guard but ill say Iraq was worse. A lot of overreacting but that's how politics work.
And gifted the enemy with hundreds of billions of dollars in military hardware, equipment, and weapons?No. When have we ever abandoned 10,000 of our citizens in a war torn nation?
I believe the typical withdrawal format is civilians, equipment, soldiers last, Biden has reinvented that into soldiers first and then send them back in and try and rescue everything.And gifted the enemy with hundreds of billions of dollars in military hardware, equipment, and weapons?
Which won’t happen because it will likely take active combat - and we know he won’t engage in that.I believe the typical withdrawal format is civilians, equipment, soldiers last, Biden has reinvented that into soldiers first and then send them back in and try and rescue everything.
Let’s let this play out before we decide if we are overreactingBiden administration definitely was caught off guard but ill say Iraq was worse. A lot of overreacting but that's how politics work.
Any equipment left should be destroyed not abandoned.I believe the typical withdrawal format is civilians, equipment, soldiers last, Biden has reinvented that into soldiers first and then send them back in and try and rescue everything.
RightAny equipment left should be destroyed not abandoned.
I 1000% agree. Not sure why people want to make a conclusion after 2 days.Let’s let this play out before we decide if we are overreacting
The biometrics they have now have US troop information on them. There is nothing over reactive about this situation.Right
We didn’t even wipe the computers. Tolly Ban has the bios on everyone who helped us. They are going door to door. It’s awful.
🤣🤣🤣I 1000% agree. Not sure why people want to make a conclusion after 2 days.
Yeah, now we get the Trumpers acting like petulant children. Much better.I don’t think the US has seen this level of inept leadership in history.
The decline of the last 7 months has directly correlated to the reduction in angry liberals arguing in this forum.
Like petulant children who finally got the toy they wanted and then don’t play with it…
Plenty of that equipment was abandoned by the Afghan army after the US deal with the Taliban. They used it as leverage for freedom because they knew the Taliban was taking over again. Biden administration dropped the ball with the civilians but he still has time to correct it.🤣🤣🤣
Maybe because we got the order wrong, the order supposed to be evacuate the civilians evacuate the equipment evacuate the troops. Joe Biden’s plan was evacuate the troops forget about the equipment and oh shit we’ve got civilians over there?
Yeah this is not one you want to try and make excuses for, all of us that have been in the military know that this was a gigantic cluster **** because it was done incorrectly. The more people trying to finish the worse they look. This is when he just say we ****ed up, own it, fix itPlenty of that equipment was abandoned by the Afghan army after the US deal with the Taliban. They used it as leverage for freedom because they knew the Taliban was taking over again. Biden administration dropped the ball with the civilians but he still has time to correct it.
Lmao you really are a doltI 1000% agree. Not sure why people want to make a conclusion after 2 days.
So easy to spot someone who never served when they chime in on this topicPlenty of that equipment was abandoned by the Afghan army after the US deal with the Taliban. They used it as leverage for freedom because they knew the Taliban was taking over again. Biden administration dropped the ball with the civilians but he still has time to correct it.
I can’t imagine Trump living rent free like that. Must be hard for you!Yeah, now we get the Trumpers acting like petulant children. Much better.
Lmao holy shit you are really dumbBiden administration definitely was caught off guard but ill say Iraq was worse. A lot of overreacting but that's how politics work.
Naw, I enjoy mocking Trumpers.I can’t imagine Trump living rent free like that. Must be hard for you!
Why are you so hard on our military?Yeah this is not one you want to try and make excuses for, all of us that have been in the military know that this was a gigantic cluster **** because it was done incorrectly. The more people trying to finish the worse they look. This is when he just say we ****ed up, own it, fix it
Sad life but if you ain’t getting laid might as well find something else I guess. Good for you!Naw, I enjoy mocking Trumpers.
I get laid enough, thank you very much.Sad life but if you ain’t getting laid might as well find something else I guess. Good for you!