Smh. Hope you don’t have any kids that look up to you. All you can teach them to do is follow and obey Trump. You're a weak man, the worse kind of man. I'll ignore you moving forward.
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Smh. Hope you don’t have any kids that look up to you. All you can teach them to do is follow and obey Trump. You're a weak man, the worse kind of man. I'll ignore you moving forward.
yes. My kids don’t hate. So theres that shining citizen example you have set if you have any. Buy hey, thats what libs do, so sort of expected
What exactly did Trump do that was bad for America? When someone claims "Make America Great Again" is a bad direction, it really throws shade on your intentions. So far, the only answers I get is "the Orange Man had mean tweets". 😂
I never said that he is bad for America. I just said that I don't get the people who are loyalist to him and whatever he says is true. It's pretty sad. The man is a sore loser and he can't accept that he loss, so he says that the election was rigged. Then people like you believe it because he said it.
Question for you. You say there is no voter fraud. My father-in-law, is not a US citizen. He is a legal resident (Greencard). About 7 years ago, we took him to get a MD State ID card. The DMV office, without our knowledge or consent, sent all of his information to our County Election Office and registered him as a Democrat. He receives in the mail, prior to every election, a sample ballot. He received a card asking him if he wanted a mail-in ballot for the 2020 Presidential election. He is not a citizen, but no one would stop him if he went to vote. His name is on the list as a registered voter. That is voter fraud. Now, he has never gone to vote, because he knows it is not right. Know, I do not have proof that this has happened to any other non-citizen, but I would wager that it has. Other states openly allow non citizens to get Driver Licenses. It's not a far stretch to think if they wanted to, they could also vote and noone would stop them. They talked about on the news this past election that in one County in Arizona, the Dominion software changed about 5000 votes from Trump to Biden. It was found on a manual recount. That is voter fraud. There are claims of states receiving more mail-in ballots then they sent out. That would be fraud. There are claims of dead people and people who live out of state voting in GA. A truck driver who said he delivered a truck load of ballots from NY to PA's election office at 4:00 o'clock in the morning, the day after the election, stopping counting and sending home the Repub poll watchers, then starting to count again, cities not letting Repub poll watchers actually watch all smells like VOTER FRAUD. Maybe it wasn't. No one or no court wanted to look at any of the evidence. The SCOTUS didn't want to get invovled, even though 3 of the Justices were not happy with that decsion. Now, was there enough Fraud to change the outcome, we will probably never know. But there were enough "strange things" to cause the losers to wonder. . But to say there is NO VOTER FRAUD is just plain stupid, in my opinion.
Oh yeah, DEMS have also claimed voter fraud and challenged election results every single elction they lose in the past 30 years. And even took it to court when Bush won FL.
There is no widespread voter fraud. Of course you can find a few cases. Nothing is perfect. Besides your father in law, the rest is fake news to the core. FYI, the republican poll watchers admitted in court that they were allowed in the building. Also, it's live stream. Stop bringing that right wing conspiracy theories to this board. Go to paler (whatever it's called) with that.
I don't believe that FL was stolen from Gore. I don't believe that there is widespread voter fraud period.
So you're admitting that your a crazy right person, like you crazy left people who contested the previous elections?
Anyone with an open mind can see the groundwork that went into opening the election into a breeding ground for voter fraud.
Mail in votes not verified? Check
No signature matches for voting? Check
Oddball Dominion software failing the eyeball test (in real time) on television? Check
Counting votes days after the election that state legislatures specifically prohibited? Check
America went to bed with Trump winning the electoral votes. What happened in the wee hours of the morning and subsequent days? Check
Blue site poll workers refusing to allow observers close enough to verify voting integrity? Check, even with court rulings mandating such procedures.Check
The SCOTUS punting and refusing to hear cases of voter fraud, voting irregularities, and ignoring state legislature voting rules? Check
This isn't differential equations, a complex concept to grasp.
Your wrong, not fake news. I had the wrong the State, it was Michigan that they found the votes switched.
Failure to Update Software Temporarily Switched Votes from Trump to Biden in Michigan County
It may very well be that after all the smoke clears former Vice President Joe Biden has defeated President Donald Trump to become the 46th President of the United States....
pjmedia.com
That’s the biggest issue you have, you are saying there was no voter fraud because that’s what you believe. You have no proof the election was perfect nor do you have the needed proof that is a stolen. Where you think of us as conspiracy theorists or Trumpers or whatever name comes to mind, we’re looking at some major anomalies regarding the election where you are taking the word of msm.
Bar none, the states that circumvented legislation in particular swing states to change laws they are not authorized to change as it is plainly stated in Constitution is illegal and those states electoral votes should not count. This is not debatable PERIOD! Those election officials broke the law. Call it what you want, could care less if the Republicans in those states stood idly by or cheered it on, the Constitution was violated.
If we had a SCOTUS who believed in the Constitution, then that would most likely put Biden under 270 and pushed the vote to the House and Senate. Had that happened, this ****ing circus of an administration wouldn’t be our reality.
I cannot speak for the other people on this board but I have personally accepted that Biden is the elected president as much as it makes me want to throw up.
No, there is no proof that the election was stolen. Bill Barr said there was no evidence that there was enough voter fraud to change the election.
Your wrong, not fake news. I had the wrong the State, it was Michigan that they found the votes switched.
Being allowed in the building and being allowed to actually watch the counting are 2 different things. And I have not heard or seen anyware they all the people who made that claim, tested in Court. They showed pictures on ABC news of poll watchers being kept some 30 to 40 feet away from the counting area. Also on ABC news, they showed the Democratics covering the glass windows with cardboard and paper to block the view of poll watchers. DID you not pay attention to anything that went on during the elction????Failure to Update Software Temporarily Switched Votes from Trump to Biden in Michigan County
It may very well be that after all the smoke clears former Vice President Joe Biden has defeated President Donald Trump to become the 46th President of the United States....
Did you read the article? Another person who doesn't read what they've sent. 6000 votes that was fixed immediately. I don't care what people say on TV, you can lie on TV. In court, those pollsters admitted to having access. Also, In a couple of states, Trump lawyers said in court that they are not arguing voter fraud.
There's no proof it was NOT stolen. You know why? No one looked, and when it was brought to light, investigation was blocked at every turn, from the district courts straight up to the SCOTUS. Nothing to see here, move along!
There's no proof it was NOT stolen. You know why? No one looked, and when it was brought to light, investigation was blocked at every turn, from the district courts straight up to the SCOTUS. Nothing to see here, move along!
So i if claim you robbed me, is it on me to provide evidence that I didn't rob you, or is it on you to provide evidence that you were?
If you robbed me, I called the cops and they refused to search you, your vehicle, because it might hurt feelings and lead to more riots..........you good with that? 😂
Ok, let’s slow this down
What does the Constitution of the United States say about legislators of each state on election laws?
As he explained, we are using your words and positions as a way of defining you...just as you are doing with us.
Oh God lol. I just don't understand how Trump can claim massive voter and it's everyone to prove he's lying. Not on him to prove he's telling the truth.
I know where you are going but multiple judges said the time to challenge that was before the election not after. No judge is going to throw out votes. Nobody wants their name tied towards changing a result. So they let it stand as is.
I am conservative on some things. I'm liberal on somethings but to say I'm not an overall moderate because I buy into right wing conspiracy theories is laughable. Bring up some left wing conspiracy theories, ill debunk them. Case and point, I stood up for Joe Manchin because the left was saying he's racist/sexist for not voting for Tanden. I just call out BS when I see it.
I don't buy into any of the conspiracy theories either. We aren't close, politically speaking.
FTR I don't even understand what QAnon is all about and I have zero motivation to find out. I have serious questions about the election results, for my own reasons which I've stated here several times, but I have absolutely no proof...therefore, until proven otherwise, Biden is the duly elected POTUS.
Name another right wing conspiracy and I'll respond honestly...I'm just not a believer.
But again, you and me are not close politically speaking.
My brother is a Qtard. I would love to lock up BSC and my brother up for a day, just to see what happens. Then a week, and do a study. Televise it and the we would really have reality TV.
I don't really know about Q either and like you, I don't care to find out. I don't question the election results. I am not naive to think there was no fraud but nothing was widespread to change the results. There was people who voted illegally for Trump too now but of course that gets ignored. I actually enjoy debates and conversations about politics and sports. I have no problem admitting I was wrong about something.
The frustrating part is the people who will refuse to admit they were wrong like the other guy I was debating, so he got me out of character.
We can be different but we also can be respectful.
Agree save the election fraud. I just have a VERY hard time believing that Biden outperformed Obama. I simply cannot get my head around that. Frankly I just do not believe that it is possible. Without proof, my suspicion doesn't matter.
Just my hunch but one day I will not be surprised if we are provided with said proof.
Oh no. He didn't outperform Obama. The election turnout just increased. % wise he's on par with Obama, so that's about right. Biden performed on par with Clinton and Obama. The 81 mil is just because more people voted. I think that was because of the pandemic. People were looking for reasons to get out of the house. I full expect 2024 to be between 55-60% turnout, unlike the 66% in 2020.
And that right there is the issue. Instead of following what the Constitution says, we hide behind these dumb ass judges who perceive the Constitution as they see it and not as written. It’s in plain English what elected officials responsibilities are and the fact that the Republican elected officials are too chicken shit to put their foot down and follow the law.
Had election laws not been changed, then I’m fully confident that Trump would have won. That’s my opinion and my opinion only.
The motto of the left is and has always been that if they can’t get what they want then they move the goal posts. They did it for decades with judges when their crazy ass laws wouldn’t pass in the house or senate.
So... pass HR1 and watch the amount of fraud go through the roof. If that law passes then I encourage everyone on the right to buy printers and print ballots and cheat their asses off because that is the only way any Republican nominees will get elected or retain seats. Unfortunately, that is the road this country is heading down.
mine is simpler than that even. The mail in voting changes that were made, and then ALL of the odd things that happened on election night. The fake pipe burst issue in atlanta, the hesitancy to call florida when it was well in hand, yet calling Arizona when it wasn’t. The stopping of the counting in the battleground states, then restarting in middle of night, the boarding up of windows so no one can see in, removal of observers etc, weird suit cases under tables that were pulled out after observers were gone etc......the list goes on and on. Thats just some of the issues. Then, no one will allow forensic audits of the ballots, even with all those issues?
no one can convince me that states like, florida and Texas can get their elections wrapped up in one day but these smaller states can’t. Again, thats piss on my Leg, not rain.
Nobody follows the constitution literally because it's really not that simple. Every judge/law scholar can interpret a law differently. It's interesting when you think about it. I remember 2 judges using the same law except one believed it allowed slavery and the other didn't. That's your opinion and I have no issues with your opinion. It's no different than the Bernie crazies thinking he would've won easily if Biden didn't get Pete and them to drop out.
I still maintain that you don't know what's in HR1, you just automatically dislike it because it's a bill from the democrats. I've read a lot of your post because I respect your thoughts/opinions. You actually agree with about 95% (arbitrary number) of the stuff in the bill.
You don’t get it, it’s all a right wing conspiracy theory 🙄
It’s time to adopt the democrat way, win at all costs
You have to stop assuming things man, you don’t know if I’ve read it or not.
I’m not petty, if a democrat comes up with a law that benefits all Americans then I’ll listen. So far, they’ve produced nothing but dog shit including HR1. HR1 is another move the goal posts bill, you will not convince me otherwise, sorry.
Have you heard of the acronym K.I.S.S.?
Keep It Simple Stupid, HR1 does not do that.
Voter ID
Signature Verification
No mail in ballots
Have a damn good reason for absentee ballots
No voting machines
Paper ballots
No tabulating machines hooked up to the internet
Why is this so ****ing hard?
Obviously the bill isn't perfect but let's unpack this;
Voter ID - not in bill
Signature Verification - in bill
No mail in ballots - not in bill, just require states to provide postage/tracking IF they adopt the method.
Have a damn good reason for absentee ballots - same as above.
No voting machines - require Paper ballots for any state that uses voting machines to compare.
Paper ballots - in bill
No tabulating machines hooked up to the internet- not in bill
So of all the things you listed only 2 things you want is not in the bill...
People came out to vote for Biden in higher numbers, much higher numbers, than Obama. By definition that is outperforming Obama. Percentage has nothing to do with the sheer number of people who were apparently excited about voting for Biden...and that's difficult for me to fathom...or believe.
And the pandemic would be far more likely to prevent people from voting. I'm not one who was super scared of this virus but I certainly wasn't looking forward to standing in line with randoms or dealing with protocols that would make that wait longer.
I'm ignoring you until you can be a man and admit that you were wrong. If you can't then ignore me too.
We interrupt the information differently. I do think the anti-Trump vote was strong too.
There are two things I forgot to add.
1. This bill is not needed nor constitutional as it circumvents state legislation responsibility and makes it federal responsibility. That is not what is written in the Constitution. You’d need a constitutional amendment if you’re going to legally pull this off. As we both know, this won’t happen as most politicians wipe their ass with our Constitution
2. Ballot harvesting should be illegal in all 50 states. If you disagree with this then I’d love to know why you think harvesting is a great idea.
If you plan on sticking around, you will learn quickly with me that I am not a fan of the federal government or its overreach and power needs to be turned back over to the states. In my opinion, federal government needs to be reduced to about nothing
I also have no problem calling out Republicans. I just enjoy calling out Democrats more as I truly think they are pieces of shit. This is also coming from someone who used to vote Democrat.
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