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Good goin', Callaway!

Gator Fever said:
You just don't want Zaire coming here. The SEC talked about relaxing that rule before Zaire was likely coming here. If Franks or Trask is better than Zaire they can show it in practice and on the field to win the job.
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And you're just as FoS as I've come to expect from you. :confused:

Do you believe that I'll change my mind about the Grad-xfer rule next year? o_O

IF so, you're as totally clueless about me and my attitudes as I 'know' you are... :p

PS

And you forgot to tell me that if it was Trask instead of Callaway, that I'd want the transgressions completely overlooked.... :rolleyes:
 
Allegations and Arrests are media fodder and should be ignored imo.

Actual convictions or guilty pleas for breaking laws are what should matter, because anyone can be 'accused' of doing anything, even when innocent. o_O

Just like DT Caleb Brantley,,, or should he also be added to your list of guilty criminals? :oops:
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And as to who should get the blame and/or be held accountable, that should be judged by what they do after the facts are known.

Did Mc-staff hand out the PED's?
Did they approve their use or attempt to 'cover-up' their use?
Did they treat the guilty individual like nothing had happened?
Did they totally excuse the behavior and welcome them back, or did the guilty xfer out?

No coach or staff can prevent individuals from doing things that are unlawful or immoral, or just plain stupid. o_O
How you should judge the coaches and the school is by what they do about it.

The student/athletes in the entire Gator program are all counseled and given information and/or classes on what they can and can't do, and of what's expected of them as Gators. It is they that are held 'personally responsible' for their own action after that. They are voting age adults as college students and are therefore accountable. The young men and women in that same age group in our Armed Forces are held personally accountable and are expected to conform to the laws, so giving the much pampered 'college students' a free pass on 'personal responsibility' to total BS. o_O
 
instaGATOR said:
Allegations and Arrests are media fodder and should be ignored imo.

Actual convictions or guilty pleas for breaking laws are what should matter, because anyone can be 'accused' of doing anything, even when innocent. o_O

Just like DT Caleb Brantley,,, or should he also be added to your list of guilty criminals? :oops:
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So we should have kept Porter around until he was convicted in a court of law?

Who is to make the determination someone is innocent when the state usually just says they aren't going forward with the case because they are unlikely to be able to make the charges stick with the evidence they have.

What would you think of a local business manager that had multiple employees causing havoc in the town bringing bad publicity to the company due to their actions. I think the owner might get rid of that manager that seemed to have a habit of having out of control employees serving under him. He might see the common factor with all the people in trouble - that they were managed by that individual.
 
Gator Fever said:
So we should have kept Porter around until he was convicted in a court of law?

Who is to make the determination someone is innocent when the state usually just says they aren't going forward with the case because they are unlikely to be able to make the charges stick with the evidence they have.

What would you think of a local business manager that had multiple employees causing havoc in the town bringing bad publicity to the company due to their actions. I think the owner might get rid of that manager that seemed to have a habit of having out of control employees serving under him. He might see the common factor with all the people in trouble - that they were managed by that individual.
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Using that same kind of 'twisted logic train,' I'd say that you should probably be disallowed from claiming to even be a Gator fan on any rivals message board...
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instaGATOR said:
Using that same kind of 'twisted logic train,' I'd say that you should probably be disallowed from claiming to even be a Gator fan on any rivals message board...
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Well I did say the forgiveness factor should be higher when you are winning SEC Championships.
 
Gator Fever said:
Well I did say the forgiveness factor should be higher when you are winning SEC Championships.
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While I say that nothing about the W/L record should be affecting UF's already 'fair and reasonable' policy on student/athlete discipline...

It should be a standard that ALL are held to, be they star or a scout team player.

* And since you've never once contributed to the Gators winning squat, your own 'forgiveness factor' is a big fat ZERO, so you're outta here....
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instaGATOR said:
While I say that nothing about the W/L record should be affecting UF's already 'fair and reasonable' policy on student/athlete discipline...

It should be a standard that ALL are held to, be they star or a scout team player.

* And since you've never once contributed to the Gators winning squat, your own 'forgiveness factor' is a big fat ZERO, so you're outta here....
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Well overall fan pressure does contribute to a coach's fate many times and its a lot more forgiving when you are winning your conference etc. It eventually makes hard head ADs like Foley even fire coaches like Zook using that incident at the frat house as one of the last straws and it makes him get up there in front of the press after firing Muschamp to tell us he is bringing the offensive punch back to Gainesville as the fans are asking him to. We are still waiting on that promise however.
 
Gator Fever said:
What did he have his first 2 years that compared to Mac coached players putting guns to the head of their girlfriend and the starting QBs taking PEDs and being suspended on rape allegations?
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Not sure...but come on...let's be honest. Like him or not Mc had a mess to clean up since he walked in the door. Arrests and drug use were an every month thing under Meyer and Muschamp had his share. Plus all of the attitude and poor culture of the team under Muschamp. Mc had to clean up a ton. He couldn't just wipe out the roster.

Sure it was under his watch but all the major figures you keep mentioning are Muschamp recruits. Grier, Harris, Porter, etc.

Callaway seems like the only Mc recruit that has his name consistently brought up.

You keep stressing First two years...first two years...let Mc get the arrogant and ignorant Muschamp funk out of the locker room. That usually takes a year or two.

It's usually fair to grade a coach on his judgement of players from the players he recruits. Not the assholes left behind by the last guy.
 
TennesseeGator said:
Not sure...but come on...let's be honest. Like him or not Mc had a mess to clean up since he walked in the door. Arrests and drug use were an every month thing under Meyer and Muschamp had his share. Plus all of the attitude and poor culture of the team under Muschamp. Mc had to clean up a ton. He couldn't just wipe out the roster.

Sure it was under his watch but all the major figures you keep mentioning are Muschamp recruits. Grier, Harris, Porter, etc.

Callaway seems like the only Mc recruit that has his name consistently brought up.

You keep stressing First two years...first two years...let Mc get the arrogant and ignorant Muschamp funk out of the locker room. That usually takes a year or two.

It's usually fair to grade a coach on his judgement of players from the players he recruits. Not the assholes left behind by the last guy.
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You do have a good point about most of the really bad stuff not being Mac's actual recruits.
 
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instaGATOR said:
Allegations and Arrests are media fodder and should be ignored imo.

Actual convictions or guilty pleas for breaking laws are what should matter, because anyone can be 'accused' of doing anything, even when innocent. o_O

Just like DT Caleb Brantley,,, or should he also be added to your list of guilty criminals? :oops:
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And as to who should get the blame and/or be held accountable, that should be judged by what they do after the facts are known.

Did Mc-staff hand out the PED's?
Did they approve their use or attempt to 'cover-up' their use?
Did they treat the guilty individual like nothing had happened?
Did they totally excuse the behavior and welcome them back, or did the guilty xfer out?

No coach or staff can prevent individuals from doing things that are unlawful or immoral, or just plain stupid. o_O
How you should judge the coaches and the school is by what they do about it.

The student/athletes in the entire Gator program are all counseled and given information and/or classes on what they can and can't do, and of what's expected of them as Gators. It is they that are held 'personally responsible' for their own action after that. They are voting age adults as college students and are therefore accountable. The young men and women in that same age group in our Armed Forces are held personally accountable and are expected to conform to the laws, so giving the much pampered 'college students' a free pass on 'personal responsibility' to total BS. o_O
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Actually, you can judge the last 4 F-U coaches by how fast they could dial Huntley Johnson and make the charges get swept under the rug.
 
Musclecramp never won an SECe-C, with Meyer's guys, nor with his own. :cool:

Mc-staff comes in to a cluster on offense with virtually no OL, and he takes the M&M cluster roster to back-2-back SECe-C's, losing the 1st bowl, but beating the snot outta the 2nd in the Outback Bowl. (UF 30 - 3 Iowa)

SEC Media days have predicted him to win 7 at best and finish #4-5 in the SECe in 2015, and then finish with 8 wins at best with a #3 finish in the SECe in 2016. In both seasons, he's had more than 8 wins and B-2-B SECe-C's. :eek:

This says that Mc is doing way better than anyone had any reason to believe he could when he arrived here. He also took a #8 defense that everyone said would fall off with the chumps departure, to #8 in 2015 and #5 in 2016.
How-bout some >>> credit where CREDIT is due <<< for a change??? o_O

He won't have all of his own recruited guys on the team until the 2018 season.
But it looks like he has pretty much solidified his coaching staff in 2 seasons.

Overall, I think that he has done an EXCELLENT job. My only diss on Mc-Nuss is their choices and development of the QB's. IF they can finally cure that one major problem, if not this year then by next, I'd call him/them a total success.

IF not, then the door begins to open for the next guy's staff to attempt to bring the Gator's all the way back. Either way, IF a next guy is needed, he will begin in a WAY BETTER place than Mc-staff had to begin with..... :confused:
 
instaGATOR said:
Musclecramp never won an SECe-C, with Meyer's guys, nor with his own. :cool:

Mc-staff comes in to a cluster on offense with virtually no OL, and he takes the M&M cluster roster to back-2-back SECe-C's, losing the 1st bowl, but beating the snot outta the 2nd in the Outback Bowl. (UF 30 - 3 Iowa)

SEC Media days have predicted him to win 7 at best and finish #4-5 in the SECe in 2015, and then finish with 8 wins at best with a #3 finish in the SECe in 2016. In both seasons, he's had more than 8 wins and B-2-B SECe-C's. :eek:

This says that Mc is doing way better than anyone had any reason to believe he could when he arrived here. He also took a #8 defense that everyone said would fall off with the chumps departure, to #8 in 2015 and #5 in 2016.
How-bout some >>> credit where CREDIT is due <<< for a change??? o_O

He won't have all of his own recruited guys on the team until the 2018 season.
But it looks like he has pretty much solidified his coaching staff in 2 seasons.

Overall, I think that he has done an EXCELLENT job. My only diss on Mc-Nuss is their choices and development of the QB's. IF they can finally cure that one major problem, if not this year then by next, I'd call him/them a total success.

IF not, then the door begins to open for the next guy's staff to attempt to bring the Gator's all the way back. Either way, IF a next guy is needed, he will begin in a WAY BETTER place than Mc-staff had to begin with..... :confused:
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Man, you were kissing Misschimps arse for 4 years. Bragging about his COY award and 11 win season as if he were the 2nd coming of Steve Spurrier. So quit pretending that you EVER were anything but a Misschimp lover.


Huntley Johnson has earned millions from F-U boosters for getting drug charges, assault charges, DUIs, Underaged drinking, illegal weapon possession, sexual assaults all swept under the rug to keep Swamp Donkey players eligible over the last 20+ years.


The man is good at what he does. I will give him his due.
 
-MDVOL said:
Actually, you can judge the last 4 F-U coaches by how fast they could dial Huntley Johnson and make the charges get swept under the rug.
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The Head-BJ and the Fulmer Cup, sponsored by the Mad-Dog-Dollie...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ball-players-arrested-at-knoxville-area-party

Butch Jones, head coach of the Volunteers football team, addressed the situation in a statement on Sunday morning. “We are aware of the situation and are still in the preliminary stages of gathering all facts and information,” Jones said. “We have very high standards and expectations within our football program at the University of Tennessee, and appropriate action will be taken.”
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As much fun as it is to mess with the underclassmen and nickname kids “Flounder,” partying with underage kids can only be to your detriment. o_O

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Tennessee Vols receiver Josh Smith arrested on domestic assault charge.
http://www.knoxnews.com/story/sport...h-arrested-domestic-assault-charge/101365570/
And on and on and on it goes in no-Knox, when the tennis-sea police even bother to respond to what goes on with players at UT... (Eric Ainge) :cool:
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Tennis-sea QB Eric Ainge:
By the time I was a senior in college, I was an addict. I played my whole senior season with a broken finger on my throwing hand. It was really badly broken. Just taking the snap, throwing the ball, handing it off, getting tackled -- everything that goes along with playing quarterback -- it was very painful.
Throughout that process, I became hooked on pain killers. I got them from the team doctor. I went through the prescriptions pretty fast. After he had been giving them to me for quite a while, he said he couldn't give them to me anymore.
I was hooked on them and I was playing football, and there was no way I was going to cancel my senior year by going to rehab. I started getting them from people, buying them, getting them off the street. I wasn't the only player on the team that was doing it, so we knew people. It wasn't, like, super sketchy or anything. We knew people who had them, and we were Tennessee football players, so they pretty much just gave them to us.
http://nesn.com/2011/03/erik-ainge-...ntal-illness-i-had-to-get-help-before-i-died/

The Head-BJ “We have very high standards and expectations within our football program at the University of Tennessee, and appropriate action will be taken.”
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[When contacted by ESPNNewYork.com, a spokesman for the Tennessee football program declined to comment on Ainge's story of his time in Knoxville.]
>>> Imagine That... :rolleyes:

I went to Tennessee to visit friends, and I had some trouble (DUI) with the law. It never got reported because the cops were Tennessee fans, and they saw how bad a shape I was in. It was so bad (falling down drunk while driving) that I don't even want to talk about it. I was cuffed, but instead of busting me, the cops called somebody in town that knew me.
 
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I agree with whoever posted that the only way to evaluate coaches on these things is to look at what they do after the players screw up, because everybody is recruiting the same kids, basically, and some of them are just inevitably going to go bonkers when they get a taste of life, playing college ball (or else they're screw ups to begin with). I think McElwain and Muschamp represent pretty well in this respect. Muschamp 86ed Janoris Jenkins right off the bat and he's an all-pro at the most important skill position on the defense. Both compared very favorably to Urb, who unfortunately knows more about winning at big time college football than both of them put together x 1000. There's probably a life lesson in there and not one that reflects favorably on humanity.
 
he finally jumped ship to cane and nole land, and telling everyone how not smart they are as weed addicts...
 
bradleygator said:
I agree with whoever posted that the only way to evaluate coaches on these things is to look at what they do after the players screw up, .
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bg, that would be iG, although I'm probably not the only one to have ever said it. :)
 
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-MDVOL said:
Man, you were kissing Misschimps arse for 4 years. Bragging about his COY award and 11 win season as if he were the 2nd coming of Steve Spurrier. So quit pretending that you EVER were anything but a Misschimp lover.


Huntley Johnson has earned millions from F-U boosters for getting drug charges, assault charges, DUIs, Underaged drinking, illegal weapon possession, sexual assaults all swept under the rug to keep Swamp Donkey players eligible over the last 20+ years.


The man is good at what he does. I will give him his due.
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Despite all of Muschamps flaws...he still to this day in his career has never lost to bUTch.

Mischimp is even credited with an assist to UF winning the east last season.
 
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Despite all of Muschamps flaws...he still to this day in his career has never lost to bUTch.

Mischimp is even credited with an assist to UF winning the east last season.
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Goes to show what a lousy coach Lyle( his real 1st name) is.


He hired Brady Hoke to coach DL. I am hoping that Hoke replaces him after they go 6-6 this season. All new backfield this year. Mediocre veteran OL but with a T/F likely to win the OLT spot and be a Freshman AA. He is that good.

Got hammered in DE loss after last season. Got 2 returning who have seen SEC action but one has already had 3 shoulder surgeries. Got an over rated JUCO. That's it. Got 6 incoming Freshmen DEs that some will be pressed into action as Lyle did a crappy job of recruiting DEs in the 2015 & 2016 classes. Got 3 returning DTs who all spent the last 1/3rd or more of the season on the DL. Got the best M/LB in the SEC but beyond that, the L/B Corps are either green or less than SEC worthy. Got 2 good safeties, best punter in the SEC and an adequate PK. Oh, got Evan Berry the best Kick returner in all of college football. But after that, not much.

Could finish 4-8( play both LSU and Alabama this season) but will probably win enough to keep Lyle's job for another 2 mediocre years.
 
instaGATOR said:
The Head-BJ and the Fulmer Cup, sponsored by the Mad-Dog-Dollie...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ball-players-arrested-at-knoxville-area-party

Butch Jones, head coach of the Volunteers football team, addressed the situation in a statement on Sunday morning. “We are aware of the situation and are still in the preliminary stages of gathering all facts and information,” Jones said. “We have very high standards and expectations within our football program at the University of Tennessee, and appropriate action will be taken.”
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As much fun as it is to mess with the underclassmen and nickname kids “Flounder,” partying with underage kids can only be to your detriment. o_O

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Tennessee Vols receiver Josh Smith arrested on domestic assault charge.
http://www.knoxnews.com/story/sport...h-arrested-domestic-assault-charge/101365570/
And on and on and on it goes in no-Knox, when the tennis-sea police even bother to respond to what goes on with players at UT... (Eric Ainge) :cool:
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Tennis-sea QB Eric Ainge:
By the time I was a senior in college, I was an addict. I played my whole senior season with a broken finger on my throwing hand. It was really badly broken. Just taking the snap, throwing the ball, handing it off, getting tackled -- everything that goes along with playing quarterback -- it was very painful.
Throughout that process, I became hooked on pain killers. I got them from the team doctor. I went through the prescriptions pretty fast. After he had been giving them to me for quite a while, he said he couldn't give them to me anymore.
I was hooked on them and I was playing football, and there was no way I was going to cancel my senior year by going to rehab. I started getting them from people, buying them, getting them off the street. I wasn't the only player on the team that was doing it, so we knew people. It wasn't, like, super sketchy or anything. We knew people who had them, and we were Tennessee football players, so they pretty much just gave them to us.
http://nesn.com/2011/03/erik-ainge-...ntal-illness-i-had-to-get-help-before-i-died/

The Head-BJ “We have very high standards and expectations within our football program at the University of Tennessee, and appropriate action will be taken.”
hysterical-laughter-smiley-emoticon.gif


[When contacted by ESPNNewYork.com, a spokesman for the Tennessee football program declined to comment on Ainge's story of his time in Knoxville.]
>>> Imagine That... :rolleyes:

I went to Tennessee to visit friends, and I had some trouble (DUI) with the law. It never got reported because the cops were Tennessee fans, and they saw how bad a shape I was in. It was so bad (falling down drunk while driving) that I don't even want to talk about it. I was cuffed, but instead of busting me, the cops called somebody in town that knew me.
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That mis-maned cup was invented by a Swamp Donkey writer and Tennessee is NOT one of the 5 SEC teams to have won that cup, Mr. I believe in little Green Men Instantloon.



2016 Colorado

2015 Rutgers

2014 Cal Poly

2013 Vanderbilt

2012 Arkansas

2011 Auburn

2010 Georgia

2009 South Florida

2008 Alabama

2007 Illinois

2006 Marshall
 
Isn't the mad-dog-dollie so cute? He babbles on and on about his crappy loser team with yet another 2nd tier HC, like anyone here gives a chit about his loser rubber dollies. :rolleyes:

Have they even won the SECe this century? I know that they haven't won an SEC-C yet in this century... :oops:

Since I know how you always avoid answering pointed questions like that, I went and looked it up for you... :cool:

SECe-C Tennis-sea this century in the SEC-C games:
2001 Loser TN 20 - 31 LSU
2004 Loser TN 28 - 38 All-barn
2007 Loser TN 14 - 21 LSU
With not even a losers sniff of it in the last 9 years...

* With 6 Loser W/L record seasons mixed in this century for good measure.
Tennis-sea vaulted 'history & traditions' have taken a rather ugly has-beens turn imoho...:p

** In comparison, the Gators have only had 1 loser season since firing tennis-sea loser Dig Ducky back in 1978, with the resulting loser season in Pell's 1st season in 1979.

And it took 72 lost start injuries for the Gators to finally have another loser season. That's just 1 loser season in the last 37 years, with only 7 losing seasons going all the way back to 1950, 67 years. But you claim that UF has NO History or Traditions,,,, :rolleyes: what a pack of loser schmucks you rubber dollies are, making your Head-BJ the perfect HC'ing fit for you... o_O
 
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Moving right along, and back to the thread's subject....

Callaway - False starts on 3rd downs. Dropped passes on 3rd downs. Off the field, a near total disaster with his dumb & dumber choices. :eek:

Suspend him for the 1st 2 games and make him understand (crystal clear) that one more and he's gone. :mad:

And smoking pot is not a 'drug-addiction disease',,,, it's a freakin' choice, with consequences as a Gator student/athlete on a free ship!

For the touchy-feeler Will Miles of SEC-Country, I'd throw him off the team the next time he goes wrong, but you could let him keep his ship to work for a degree, IF he goes to a Drug Rehab/Counseling program and stays with it in good standing. Because I can't see how helping him become an NFL millionaire is going to help him with his 'drug problems' in the least.

What would you do to a same age Army Ranger that was caught stoned out of his mind and holding, while riding around with a Muslim with bomb making ingredients in his trunk? Put him in a touchy-feely rehab while you keep him on his SF's A-team? (not freakin' likely) o_O

Personal Responsibility with Consequences, or just more liberal toughy-feely bs??? You make the call.... :cool:

https://www.seccountry.com/florida/...ll-receiver-suspended-michigan-wrong-decision
 
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Breakout years will abound in 2017, all over the place on this team imo.

Here's just one of the many to look out for...

WR Rick Wells 6-0 206 at Raines HS in Jacksonville - Now a rsFr Gator.

HS Jr/Sr - 58 for 1,261 yds, 21.7 yds/rec, 12 TD's.

He, along with the two FNG's, might just be a good answer to the missing Callaway in the Mich game?
 
instaGATOR said:
Isn't the mad-dog-dollie so cute? He babbles on and on about his crappy loser team with yet another 2nd tier HC, like anyone here gives a chit about his loser rubber dollies. :rolleyes:

Have they even won the SECe this century? I know that they haven't won an SEC-C yet in this century... :oops:

Since I know how you always avoid answering pointed questions like that, I went and looked it up for you... :cool:

SECe-C Tennis-sea this century in the SEC-C games:
2001 Loser TN 20 - 31 LSU
2004 Loser TN 28 - 38 All-barn
2007 Loser TN 14 - 21 LSU
With not even a losers sniff of it in the last 9 years...

* With 6 Loser W/L record seasons mixed in this century for good measure.
Tennis-sea vaulted 'history & traditions' have taken a rather ugly has-beens turn imoho...:p

** In comparison, the Gators have only had 1 loser season since firing tennis-sea loser Dig Ducky back in 1978, with the resulting loser season in Pell's 1st season in 1979.

And it took 72 lost start injuries for the Gators to finally have another loser season. That's just 1 loser season in the last 37 years, with only 7 losing seasons going all the way back to 1950, 67 years. But you claim that UF has NO History or Traditions,,,, :rolleyes: what a pack of loser schmucks you rubber dollies are, making your Head-BJ the perfect HC'ing fit for you... o_O
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That 72 lost start injuries crap is as valid as Owebama's jobs "Saved or created" or your alien parking lots on the back side of the moon. You are delirious.


You do have a football legacy. FELONY Arrests.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ere-rampant-in-gainesville-under-urban-meyer/

I really like the Gater who stole a credit card from a woman killed in a motorcycle wreck and wracked up 70 charges on it.


Here's The Gater Hall of Shame.

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...ree-misdemeanor-charge-misdemeanor-possession


So long as they won, get them charges knocked down to misdemeanors and serve no jail time. That's your Florida Football Legacy.
 
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I wasn't aware UT had two of the best SEC players and one best in the nation on their roster
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Now you are.

Evan Berry( younger brother of Chief's All Pro Safety Eric Berry) has already earned 1st team AA honors as KR as a Sophomore. Led the nation in Avg ( over 38 yds per return as well as returns for TDs)
 
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They returned plenty of kicks i know that from that defense


how is the spring game team that played half the season not valid? How else or when else has Florida ever lost 8 games without something that catastrophic, for the first time in my life i had zero idea who some of the guys on the field were that year with the 2 deep, which was basically the 5th and 6th string dipped into slow white undersized walk ons
 
46885 said:
They returned plenty of kicks i know that from that defense


how is the spring game team that played half the season not valid? How else or when else has Florida ever lost 8 games without something that catastrophic, for the first time in my life i had zero idea who some of the guys on the field were that year with the 2 deep, which was basically the 5th and 6th string dipped into slow white undersized walk ons
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Lyle had just as many injuries if not more last season thanks to the stupidity of his "No Contact" practices last spring and fall to try to ward off injuries which resulted in FAR, FAR more injuries once the season began. Especially on both lines, Cornerback and at Linebacker. We had a walk-on playing MLB - Colton Jumper and DT - Paul Bain for most of last season due to injuries. Played the last 4 games at DT with a SDE and the walk-on playing DT. Got killed on runs up the middle because of the DT injuries and playing 5 DBs because of losing so many LBs ( Walk-on playing the "Mike" Position and a 4th teamer playing the ":Sam" position.

Every team has injuries. Some seasons are worse than others. All part of the game. Thing is, when a 4* or 5* Bammer or Suckeyes player goes down, he is replaced by 2nd, 3rd and 4th team 4* and 5* players. Makes a difference.
 
I don't think you have any in depth memory of the injuries that happened that year or how detrimental they were not only to starters, even their back ups lol, nor does anyone that always throws out the most casual fan phrase as any with the "it's part of the game" quotes in any fashion.

Injuries are part of the game, not losing your entire team to make you worse than wake forest
 
-MDVOL said:
Goes to show what a lousy coach Lyle( his real 1st name) is.
He hired Brady Hoke to coach DL. I am hoping that Hoke replaces him after they go 6-6 this season. All new backfield this year. Mediocre veteran OL but with a T/F likely to win the OLT spot and be a Freshman AA. He is that good.

Got hammered in DE loss after last season. Got 2 returning who have seen SEC action but one has already had 3 shoulder surgeries. Got an over rated JUCO. That's it. Got 6 incoming Freshmen DEs that some will be pressed into action as Lyle did a crappy job of recruiting DEs in the 2015 & 2016 classes. Got 3 returning DTs who all spent the last 1/3rd or more of the season on the DL. Got the best M/LB in the SEC but beyond that, the L/B Corps are either green or less than SEC worthy. Got 2 good safeties, best punter in the SEC and an adequate PK. Oh, got Evan Berry the best Kick returner in all of college football. But after that, not much.

Could finish 4-8( play both LSU and Alabama this season) but will probably win enough to keep Lyle's job for another 2 mediocre years.
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Mad-Doggie-Delusions and Wild Speculations:

"a T/F likely to win the OLT spot and be a Freshman AA. He is that good."

Facts, not rubber-dollie OL Fiction...

RT Jawaan Taylor 6-5 340 So *** 5.5 - Cocoa, FL
Played in all 13 games throughout the season and started 12 at RT. Freshman All-America honors by ESPN.com, FWAA and Pro Football Focus. Selected to the Freshman All-SEC Team by the leagues Coaches’ and Gridiron Now. Member of ESPN All-SEC Bowl Team.

C T.J. McCoy 6-1 308 rsSo *** 5.6 - Clermont, FL - Began as 3rd string, but he became the default starter after both 1 & 2 were injured out.
He came off the bench to play center in UF’s game against SCa and never came off the field again; He played three-plus quarters at center for the Gators against the Gamecocks, and then started the final 4 contests of the season. He was just placed on the Rimington Award Watch List for 2017.

LT Martez Ivey 6-5 305 Jr ***** 6.1 - Apopka, FL - Started out of position, as a Fr-So at LG. Now that LT David Sharpe left early for the NFL draft, Ivey moves to his normal LT position.
2016 - Two-time SEC Offensive Lineman of the Week (UGA, South Carolina).
2nd Team All-SEC by the league’s Coaches and the Associated Press.

Maybe it's the rubber-dollie idiots that are doing the coaching, and not the number of recruiting stars that they were given. :rolleyes:
UF's tFr 3 star 5.5 made AA, and the 3 star rsFr is now on the Rimington Award Watch List.
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In Mc's first 3 classes, he's brought in these guys at DE, along with some very good others:
#2 DE CeCe Jefferson Jr ***** 6.1
#2 DE Antonneous Clayton So ***** 6.1
#3 DE Zachary Carter Fr **** 5.9

And a couple of decent sized FNG's at NT/DT
DT/DE Elijah Conliffe 6-4 305 **** 5.8 - Hampton, Va
2016 Va All-Stars Defensive Team. 2016 VHSCA All-Star Game.
2015 Conference 10 Defensive Player of the Year

DT Kyree Campbell 6-3 323 **** 5.9 Woodbridge, Va
HS Sr - 62 tackles, 18 TFL 8 sacks, 4 pass deflections, 2 Ints and 3 blocked kicks. Played in the 2016 Offense-Defense All-American Bowl.

NT Tedarrell Slaton 6-4 360 **** 5.9 - U.S.Army-AA,
FL 2014 and 2016 5A State Champ
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"Got the best M/LB in the SEC"

You claim, but I wouldn't trade you this guy for him.
MLB David Reese 6-0 244 So
As a tFr, he replaced 1/21 Lions draft pick Jarrad Davis when he got injured and he never missed a beat. Reese started the final 4 games of the regular season at MLB. He totaled 49 tackles and 2 TFL. In his 1st-career start against SCa, Reese tallied a game-high 11 tackles. He was named SEC Defensive Player of the Week after he posted a career-high 12 tackles and a 0.5 TFL in Florida’s SEC Eastern Division-clinching win at LSU. In the SEC Championship Game against Alabama, DE Jabari Zuniga blocked UA’s extra point attempt with 1:42 left in the first quarter, and Reese returned it for a defensive 2-PAT
For 244 LB's, he's still got some good speed to run the length of the field. ;)
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" best punter in the SEC"

P Johnny Townsend 6-1 211 rsSr - Orlando, FL
1st Team AA by CBS Sports.
1st Team All-SEC performer by ESPN and Gridiron Now.
He had 29 punts of 50+ yards and 27 punts inside the 20 yard line
>>> Ranked 1st in the Nation with a 47.9 yard average on 64 punts.
* And he was named to the SEC Academic Honor Roll. :p

PK Eddy Pinero 6-0 173 - Miami, FL -- Mc flipped him away from Saban.
He's kicked an 81 yard FG on the practice field.
He was 3/3 on FG's over 50 yds in 2016, and also 100% on PAT's
He was 21 of 24 (87.5%) overall, with 67% (14) of his FG's at 40+ yds.
His KO's are all out of the endzone, whenever the coach asks for that.
 
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-MDVOL said:
That 72 lost start injuries crap is as valid as Owebama's jobs .You are delirious.
Click to expand...

Here he goes yet again. Instead of ever answering for HIS teams never-ending crimes and misdemeanors, he instead tries to throw enough bs confetti into the air to distract eyes away from his no-Knox cops and his rubber dollies escapades....

The idiot mad-dog-dollie said that UF never had 72 lost starts due to injury in their 4-8 season. He's either stupid or lazy when he could do an easy search before running his idiot-ignorant mouth, so I shoved reality right up his keester...

For just a peek at how bad it was, before the season was over, Florida lost 2 QB's, 3 OT's, its top tailback, and their 2 best LB'ers to injuries. And UF had just lost 6 more defensive starters to the last NFL draft.

Just like some of the idiots that try to make hay over 2 Gators getting turned around and running into each other on a play, calling it blocking each other. What they always fail to mention, is that on that play, Solomon Patton went for a 7 yard gain and a 1st down to set up a TD.
 
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