Yep with these top recruits you have no clue unless you know what NIL money is being offered related to the schools.
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Yep with these top recruits you have no clue unless you know what NIL money is being offered related to the schools.
Corruption has finally conquered both politics and college sports. 😯
Revolting, in many more ways than just one.... 😏
Revolting, in many more ways than just one.... 😏
I "thought" I read the 85 man was suspended for this year. lol did I make that up?
If the NCAA does go ahead and re-institute the limit of 85 scholarships in 2022, it would be reminiscent of 1987, when the NCAA changed its football scholarship limit from 95 to 85.
The NCAA did say that all football programs will be allowed to go over its allowed 85 scholarships for the 2021 season. So programs would be able to sign the same amount of 2021 recruits it would have anyway.
But it didn’t say anything about 2022 and beyond.
The NCAA has yet to rule on when football programs will be required to return to the overall limit of 85 scholarship players. It was originally thought the NCAA would allow programs to go over the limit for two years after the rule takes effect – so for the 2021 and 2022 school years. That makes some sense since the extra scholarship players could naturally shake out by 2023 and it would have a chance to return on its own to normal numbers of scholarship players, or at least close to it. (continued at)
247sports.com
The NCAA did say that all football programs will be allowed to go over its allowed 85 scholarships for the 2021 season. So programs would be able to sign the same amount of 2021 recruits it would have anyway.
But it didn’t say anything about 2022 and beyond.
The NCAA has yet to rule on when football programs will be required to return to the overall limit of 85 scholarship players. It was originally thought the NCAA would allow programs to go over the limit for two years after the rule takes effect – so for the 2021 and 2022 school years. That makes some sense since the extra scholarship players could naturally shake out by 2023 and it would have a chance to return on its own to normal numbers of scholarship players, or at least close to it. (continued at)
Ramifications if Scholarship Limit Returns to 85 for 2022
The NCAA might reinstate the limit of 85 scholarships per football program by 2022, and that could dramatically impact recruiting and opportunity for recruits...
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You linked an article dated May 13th? May I ask why you did that on June 15th?
Jaden Rashada has pushed his college commitment back from June 18, AllGators has learned via John Garcia, Jr. of Sports Illustrated All-American. A new commitment date has not officially been announced.
https://www.si.com/college/florida/...ruiting-jaden-rashada-pushing-back-commitment
If he was gung-ho Gators, he would have committed here.
May decide on a quick trip to S florida & the Canes, but I am thinking its aTM.
IMO, he is just trying to run up the NIL$; don't blame him; if I had Jaden's talent, I would do the same thing ! LOL
https://www.si.com/college/florida/...ruiting-jaden-rashada-pushing-back-commitment
If he was gung-ho Gators, he would have committed here.
May decide on a quick trip to S florida & the Canes, but I am thinking its aTM.
IMO, he is just trying to run up the NIL$; don't blame him; if I had Jaden's talent, I would do the same thing ! LOL
I guess I might be the only Gator fan that doesn't GaS where either of these over-rated 5-star QB's, (Jaden or Arch) go....
"I’m going to push it back," Rashada told 247Sports. "My grandma's birthday is the 26th of June."
So Rashada will now announce his decision on June 26th on CBS Sports HQ, with the time still TBD.
Rashada will choose from between Florida, LSU, Miami, Ole Miss and Texas A&M.
There is an outside chance he takes an official visit to Miami this week, but Rashada said that isn't for certain yet.
https://247sports.com/college/miami...lorida-Texas-AM-Miami-Ole-Miss-LSU-188847228/
So Rashada will now announce his decision on June 26th on CBS Sports HQ, with the time still TBD.
Rashada will choose from between Florida, LSU, Miami, Ole Miss and Texas A&M.
There is an outside chance he takes an official visit to Miami this week, but Rashada said that isn't for certain yet.
https://247sports.com/college/miami...lorida-Texas-AM-Miami-Ole-Miss-LSU-188847228/
Zach Ragan A-Z sports June 12
https://atozsports.com/nashville/texas-georgia-recruiting-vols-virginia-arch-manning/Alabama is still in the mix, but after receiving a commitment from 2023 four-star quarterback Eli Holstein last month, it feels like the Crimson Tide could be fading in the race for Arch.
Florida, LSU, and Ole Miss are still hanging around in the battle for Arch, but it would be a surprise at this point if the highly-coveted recruit committed to any of those three programs.
Gators can't even get an UOV !
Georgia or Texas are the most likely destinations for Manning. But there’s another program that could be a darkhorse contender to land the talented quarterback.
I don’t think we can rule out Arch shocking everyone and choosing Virginia over Georgia and Texas.
Arch has deep family connections to Virginia. His mother went to school in Charlottesville and his sister is currently a student at Virginia (his aunt, Peyton’s wife, also went to Virginia).
I don’t think Manning loves the offense that Kirby Smart and his staff run at Georgia. It obviously works for the Bulldogs — they’re the defending national champions. But it’s not an offense that truly lets a quarterback shine. It’s a run-heavy offense that requires more of a game-manager at quarterback instead of a superstar.
Gators hope to have the same run-heavy offense; perhaps this is one reason we can't attract a 5* QB
The Texas offense under Sarkisian is probably a better fit for Manning. But if Sarkisian struggles in year two (he went 5-7 in his first year as the program’s head coach), it could change Manning’s perception of the Longhorns (another losing year could also cost Sarkisian his job).
Virginia could be an interesting option for Manning. It’s a place where Manning could be cut loose and truly excel. HOW ?
IMO, writer is blowing smoke here -
Tony Elliott was hired on Dec. 10, 2021; he has never been a HC
Virginia went 6-6 in 2021
Rivals Team Recruiting Ranking - Virginia #74; Florida #51
Cavaliers head coach Tony Elliott was Dabo Swinney’s offensive coordinator at Clemson for seven years. With Elliott running the offense, the Tigers won two national championships. Clemson also had two quarterbacks selected in the first round during that time period (Deshaun Watson at No. 12 overall in the 2017 NFL Draft and Trevor Lawrence at No. 1 overall in the 2021 NFL Draft).
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I'd be okay if either chose UF.
But I wouldn't waste time & effort begging for either of them.
Push, shove, whatever.... 😴
But I wouldn't waste time & effort begging for either of them.
Push, shove, whatever.... 😴
Long Snapper Gets Offer From Gators
Gannon Burt Is Top Ranked Long Snapper
Gannon consistently has a snap to holder time under one second and was as low as .68 second at his recent camp in Las Vegas.
As several have pointed out - LS can not win a game; but they can LOSE a game.
"Before you can win a game, you have to not lose it."
Chuck Noll
https://hailfloridahail.com/2022/06/15/florida-gators-offer-long-snapper/
Vince Dooley (still living) will now be officially allowed to say - "The gators have a great Long Snapper !"
Origin of quote -
Vince Dooley when asked about William & Mary before playing them.
"They have the best long snapper I've ever seen."
https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/threads/football-coach-quotes.360130/
Almost as good as Spurrier's quote about the fire in the Auburn library that destroyed 20 books: “The real tragedy was that 15 hadn’t been colored yet.”
https://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/10/steve-spurriers-15-greatest-trash-talking-quotes
Some Chuck Noll quotes that Billy Napier seems to be IMPLEMENTING -
"The single most important thing we had in the Steelers of the '70s was the ability to work together."
"In 1969, we decided we had to do certain things technically to win, and we decided to do them then, even though we knew some of the personnel couldn't do it. In other words, instead of adapting the system to the players, we just installed our system. Then we set out to fill our team through the draft."
"We were really lucky and fortunate in the '70s because we got a group of not only good football players but good people... a group that wanted to be together and wanted to be the best."
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Which is why the iG doesn't put the same level of importance on the recruit individual rankings as some like the dog-poker do....
ZACH GOODALL -- 4 HOURS AGO
Considering his lack of playing experience, (WTF? A bogus claim imo)
2020-21 13 Gms, 88 of 121, 72.7%, 1,666, 18.9, 27 TD, 6 Int, QBR 133.7
2021-22 14 Gms, 167 of 235, 71.1%, 2,750, 16.5, 41 TD, 4 Int, QBR 142.6
----- Rushing -----
2020-21 13 Gms 154 for 992 yds, 6.4 ypc, 13 TD's - 1 LPF
2021-22 14 Gms 173 for 1,343 yds, 7.8 ypc, 20 TD's - 1 LPF
Combined 2 seasons stats:
P - 255 of 356, 71.6% for 4,416 yds, 17.3 yds/comp. 68 TD's, 10 Ints, QBR 141.3
R - 327 for 2,335 yds, 7.1 ypc, 33 TD's, 2 LPF's
2022 Okla District 3 3A MVP, and the 13-1 state champ runner-up.
Sr Season Total Off. - 4,093 yds, 61 TD's, 4 Ints, 1 LPF - QBR 142.6
Brown is considered a long-term development prospect (BS) who won't be taking the field for the Gators anytime soon. (says you) But when you put on his high school tape, it becomes easy to understand why Napier and his staff are willing to commit to coaching up Brown's game.
Zack, when I put his tape on, what I see is a QB that has outperformed Arch and other recruiting service 5-star rated QB's. -- BTW, Max enrolled at UF on May 25th.
Brown's late arrival on the football scene led to a quiet recruitment without much coverage, -- No, him not paying to go to any recruiting camps led to his low rating and lack of attention. He has a very accurate, strong arm, and he'd be a 4-star if he was only being evaluated as a RB in the iG's book (Sr - 1,343 yds, 7.8 ypc, 20 TD's - 1 LPF).... As a 71.6% dual threat QB, I'd rate him as a Top 3 5-star...
As to Zach's claim of his mechanics needing work, with his on the field results, I'd go with the old saying 'If it ain't broke (71.6% 68 TD's 10 Ints), then don't try to fix it' attitude....
Outsiders whined about Wuerffel & Tebow's mechanics, but I'm going with their demonstrated results, leading to their Heisman Trophy's and SEC/NC's....
I also see a 2-sport star that was projected to be a middle round baseball draft pick coming straight out of HS. He's an exceptional multi-threat athlete.
https://www.si.com/college/florida/...s-2022-enrollee-profile-quarterback-max-brown
Considering his lack of playing experience, (WTF? A bogus claim imo)
2020-21 13 Gms, 88 of 121, 72.7%, 1,666, 18.9, 27 TD, 6 Int, QBR 133.7
2021-22 14 Gms, 167 of 235, 71.1%, 2,750, 16.5, 41 TD, 4 Int, QBR 142.6
----- Rushing -----
2020-21 13 Gms 154 for 992 yds, 6.4 ypc, 13 TD's - 1 LPF
2021-22 14 Gms 173 for 1,343 yds, 7.8 ypc, 20 TD's - 1 LPF
Combined 2 seasons stats:
P - 255 of 356, 71.6% for 4,416 yds, 17.3 yds/comp. 68 TD's, 10 Ints, QBR 141.3
R - 327 for 2,335 yds, 7.1 ypc, 33 TD's, 2 LPF's
2022 Okla District 3 3A MVP, and the 13-1 state champ runner-up.
Sr Season Total Off. - 4,093 yds, 61 TD's, 4 Ints, 1 LPF - QBR 142.6
Brown is considered a long-term development prospect (BS) who won't be taking the field for the Gators anytime soon. (says you) But when you put on his high school tape, it becomes easy to understand why Napier and his staff are willing to commit to coaching up Brown's game.
Zack, when I put his tape on, what I see is a QB that has outperformed Arch and other recruiting service 5-star rated QB's. -- BTW, Max enrolled at UF on May 25th.
Brown's late arrival on the football scene led to a quiet recruitment without much coverage, -- No, him not paying to go to any recruiting camps led to his low rating and lack of attention. He has a very accurate, strong arm, and he'd be a 4-star if he was only being evaluated as a RB in the iG's book (Sr - 1,343 yds, 7.8 ypc, 20 TD's - 1 LPF).... As a 71.6% dual threat QB, I'd rate him as a Top 3 5-star...
As to Zach's claim of his mechanics needing work, with his on the field results, I'd go with the old saying 'If it ain't broke (71.6% 68 TD's 10 Ints), then don't try to fix it' attitude....
Outsiders whined about Wuerffel & Tebow's mechanics, but I'm going with their demonstrated results, leading to their Heisman Trophy's and SEC/NC's....
I also see a 2-sport star that was projected to be a middle round baseball draft pick coming straight out of HS. He's an exceptional multi-threat athlete.
https://www.si.com/college/florida/...s-2022-enrollee-profile-quarterback-max-brown
OL Tommy Kinsler Commits to the Gators shortly after taking part in an official visit with UF.
https://www.si.com/college/florida/recruiting/tommy-kinsler-commits-florida-gators-2023-recruiting
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Arch Manning's teammate - TE Will Randle - commits to Texas
https://www.si.com/fannation/colleg...h-manning-teammate-texas-longhorns-commitmentDon't know if this will have any impact with Arch.
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Per Brandon Huffman - 2022-06-20 16:03:19.226397
QB Jaden Rashada sets final official visit with decision coming on Sunday, June 26th - maybe
https://247sports.com/college/flori...lorida-Texas-AM-Miami-Ole-Miss-LSU-188988883/Not a 247 Insider so IDK
Canes have a QB in the class: Milton QB Emory Williams commits to Miami
https://miami.rivals.com/news/canes-have-a-qb-in-the-class-emory-williams-commits-to-miami
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Fever,
IDK; don't really follow Canes anymore, but with Mario Cristobal as their HC & upcoming renewal of our series (2024) - that will probably change.
EMORY WILLIAMS 3* PRO-STYLE QUARTERBACK •6'5" | 206 LBS•CLASS OF 2023 - MILTON, FL | MILTON
By the same token, most gator opponents (& some posters on this board; except for INSTA) probably think the same thing about QB Max Brown.
#44 QB-pp Emory Williams 6-4 185 *** --- Sr 2021
P - 161 of 254, 63.4%, 2,168 yds, 13.5, 16 TD's, 3 Ints, QBR 106.5
R - 56 for 64 yds, 1.1 ypc, 4 TD's, L-28, 2 LPF's
#96 QB-dt Max Brown 6-3.5 200 *** --- Sr 2021
P - 167 of 235, 71.1%, 2,750, 16.5, 41 TD, 4 Int, QBR 142.6
R - 173 for 1,343 yds, 7.8 ypc, 20 TD's - 1 LPF
Okla Dis 3, 3A MVP and 13-1 State Champ Runner-up.
Not sure, but maybe given enough time, Jeff and the feveredbrain might be able to figure out the differences between Emory and Max.... (stats per MaxPreps) 🤓
But maybe not, because the dogpokers 247 Recruit rankings sure don't have a clue imo.....
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4-star QB Jaden Rashada OV to Miami
Pittsburg (Calif.) four-star quarterback Jaden Rashada has scheduled a midweek official visit to Miami, On3 Director of Recruiting Chad Simmons reports.Simmons says the visit will come this week and could last as long as Tuesday through Thursday.
https://www.on3.com/college/miami-hurricanes/news/4-star-qb-jaden-rashada-sets-miami-official-visit/
The Miami football program is expected to receive an official visit from four-star quarterback Jaden Rashada sometime this week. There are conflicting reports if Rashada will visit during the week or this weekend. Chad Simmons of On3 reported that Rashada will begin his visit to Coral Gables on Tuesday.
Per Simmons, the visit from Rashada could last as long as Thursday. A pair of reports from 247 Sports state Rashada is visiting this weekend. The visit from Rashada comes after the Pittsburg, California prospect delayed his commitment from June 18 to the 26. The Miami football program is one of five finalists for Rashada.
Florida, LSU, Mississippi and Texas A&M are the other four finalists to receive a visit from Rashada. The On3.com predicition machine projects Florida has a 46.6 percent chance to receive a commitment from Rashada. Texas A&M is second at 18.5 percent and Miami third at 14.9.
https://caneswarning.com/2022/06/20/4-star-qb-jaden-rashada-official-visit-good-omen-miami-football/
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I would say it makes it easier to rate guys. It's more of a crap shoot I would think when a kid is playing small ball but for the top recruits I would guess all these camps would help expose some players they might be too high on initially.
The problem is these guesses would have to know the NIL deals being discussed to have any clue where the most likely destination is. Maybe they do but I wouldn't count on them having that. I guess the kid talking up a school more than the others might be a sign of what may be going on with that.
Star ratings come from many different rating services, each with their own set of criteria and bias.
Boiled down, all ratings from anybody are just their own expressed OPINIONS, and nothing more.
Nobody is right and nobody is wrong, all of the time. We each give our opinions, and then take a bow, or a punch in the mouth somewhere later down the road after reality has expressed itself....
The iG's rating standards:
First up is what their HS coach and/or their teammates say about them.
Next is what the Gator coaching staff has to say after evaluating them.
But what I trust is my own eval after looking at their physical bio/history, their stats, and their highlight reels from their seasons and/or camps (Elite-11 etc).
The various recruiting services are good for a general rating most times (not always), but their hit/miss is there for anyone to see,,, IF they look closely.
Right here at UF, they've had 5 stars busts that didn't even get drafted, and 2-3 stars that go in the 1-2 Rnds of the NFL draft. Class rankings and individual star ratings are a place to begin, but are only background for me in most cases, and that has changed over the many years that I've been watching it. I trust them less now than maybe I did years ago. But hey, each to his own when it comes to recruiting, because it's all just opinions at this point.
EDGE Isaiah Nixon Flips Commitment to the Florida Gators
The Florida Gators have secured one of the top EDGE recruits in the country.The Florida Gators were able to secure a commitment from Lakewood (Fla) EDGE Isaiah Nixon on Tuesday, flipping the 2023 recruit from the UCF Knights to UF.
The 6-foot-4, 225-pound St. Petersburg product is currently listed as a four-star recruit, the No. 22 edge rusher and the No. 169 prospect overall in the class of 2023 according to On3 Sports consensus rankings.
https://www.si.com/college/florida/...-recruiting-isaiah-nixon-flips-commitment-ucf
Fever,
You are SOOO right !
Rashad shopping the market for NIL$; since aTm one of the schools, I'm not holding my breath for him to be a Gator.
At least Rashad, unlike the LB from last year, has remained uncommitted until he has everything worked out.
Rashad signed a small NIL deal in Dec, 2021; now he's looking for the big one !
4-star QB Jaden Rashada’s On3 NIL Valuation reaches $454,000
https://www.on3.com/nil/news/jaden-rashadas-on3-nil-valuation/High School Football Player Jaden Rashada Inks NIL Deal | Is First Prep Football Star To Profit From Endorsements
https://theshadowleague.com/high-sc...ep-football-star-to-profit-from-endorsements/I don't blame him; I would do the same thing if I could !
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Well if A&M thinks they can wait to get their QB next season we may get him. I think they have some younger guys.
Fever,
They are a West Team & I don't follow them much; but their record setting recruiting class, got everyone's attention.
Even though Zach Calzada, last year's QB1, transferred to Auburn, aTm still has 3 scholarship QBs.
Haven't seen any discussion about QB play in their spring game & frankly doubt that any of them actually "won" the QB1 job. Who knows how things will play out in the Fall.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...e-fate-of-its-historic-2022-recruiting-class/
Haynes King: The sophomore won the starting job out of camp in 2021 and took first-team reps in fall and spring 2021. He threw three interceptions against Kent State before suffering a lower-leg injury in the first drive against Colorado. King is a dynamic athlete and perhaps the best runner of the group. Having experience in the offense is an edge.
Max Johnson: The LSU transfer is intriguing for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that Fisher has started only one transfer quarterback in his career -- Everett Golson at Florida State in 2015 before Golson was replaced by homegrown Sean Maguire. Johnson had thrown for nearly 4,000 yards with 35 touchdowns in 18 appearances on a chaotic Tigers squad. Stepping into a stable Texas A&M offensive system could help him maximize his game.
Conner Weigman: The early-enrollee is the wild card of the bunch. Weigman rated as the nation's No. 2 quarterback recruit and a consensus five-star. He rates as the Aggies' best quarterback recruit since Kyle Allen in 2014 and has stuck around in the competition in his first spring since moving up from Cypress (Texas) Bridgeland. Fisher raves about his quick release and fundamentals.
Would love to see Rashada commit to Gators, but don't think it happens. Especially with him taking this last OV to Miami. School getting the last OV, usually in better shape to sign him.
UNLESS - they have an NIL Checkbook as thick as aTm's ! LOL
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Richarson So
Brown Fr
Kitna rsFr
Miller III rsFr
UF could easily wait a year if need be imo, to get another QB....
Anders rsSo WO
Engel rsSo WO
We don't have anyone rated as high as the young A&M QB and Richardson will be gone if he is the real deal. We could wait a year though.
Richardson and his smart Momma might want him to get his UF degree before leaving. We'll see.
Brown's a 5-star QB-dt in the iG's ratings, and I wouldn't trade him for anyone at aTm.
(anyone can be incorrect, so I might be, but I'm seeing him as another way under-rated like Trask)
And if Nappy hadn't brought in chump Miller (da-turd') III, then it might look like this to me for 2022:
QB-dt Richardson So
QB-dt Del Rio-Wilson rsFr
QB-dt Brown Fr
QB-pp Kitna rsFr
As it stands, I'm hoping it's Brown that turns out to be AR-15's backup for 22.
QB Arch Manning Commits to Texas
Now we can move on to something important !
https://www.si.com/college/florida/recruiting/florida-gators-recruiting-arch-manning-commits-texas
On3 Recruiting Prediction Machine: Miami now on top for Jaden Rashada
A new leader has emerged in the recruitment of four-star Pittsburg (Calif.) quarterback Jaden Rashada, according to the On3 Recruiting Prediction Machine (RPM).Following an expert prediction from On3 National Recruiting Analyst Sam Spiegelman, as well as updates around the industry, Miami is the new favorite to land Rashada.
The No. 42 overall prospect in the On3 Consensus is currently on an official visit to Coral Gables and is expected to make his commitment announcement on Saturday.
The RPM gives the Hurricanes a 50.1 percent chance of securing his commitment, with Florida — the other perceived finalist, trailing behind at 23.7 percent.
https://www.on3.com/news/on3-recruiting-prediction-machine-miami-now-on-top-for-jaden-rashada/
As I noted in an earlier post, most of these top rated QB started drawing attention as sophs.
The closing % are heavily in favor of the school which gets the last OV & Rashada looks like he will follow the pattern.
We have a QB - AR15, who if he stays for his Sr season, could be a good one. Hopefully our gator NIL machine can come up with a pile big enough to keep him around for his last year.
If not we will have to hope that either Miller, Kitna, or Brown takes off in the next year.
https://www.on3.com/news/on3-recruiting-prediction-machine-miami-now-on-top-for-jaden-rashada/
With Rashada out of the picture, we can get properly lined up (unlike our OL) for some of the elite QBs now in the HS pipeline.
Or maybe Arch and the Rash just looked at the Gator roster (AR-15/Max) and decided to go where there's less completion for the job....
He's got the Ewers kid in front of him that he's gonna have to compete with when he gets there.
He’s not coming here so as far as I’m concerned he’s irrelevant.
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