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Franks - “I want a fourth statue.” Will he return for his Sr season ?

Jeff from Jax

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"...To say he is ready for this year would be an understatement.

As Franks stated at SEC media days, “I want a fourth statue.”

Eluding (sp; see comment from Evil) to the fact there are three statues of Florida QB’s outside the Swamp. That is a big statement, but one any Gator fan would want to hear.

https://hailfloridahail.com/2019/08/17/florida-football-five-key-gators-watch/2/

His first order of business is that he needs to play well this season, but say he is third in the Heisman voting (a big if, I realize), would he return for his Sr season ?

The three statues are, of course, - Gators' three Heisman Trophy winners - Steve Spurrier is passing, Danny Wuerffel is getting ready to throw and Tim Tebow is running with the ball.
https://www.al.com/sports/2011/04/florida_unveils_statues_of_gat.html


The Miami games has me juiced ! Unlike SadGator & his gloom & doom, I think we win !
 
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"...To say he is ready for this year would be an understatement.

As Franks stated at SEC media days, “I want a fourth statue.”

Eluding to the fact there are three statues of Florida QB’s outside the Swamp. That is a big statement, but one any Gator fan would want to hear.

https://hailfloridahail.com/2019/08/17/florida-football-five-key-gators-watch/2/

His first order of business is that he needs to play well this season, but say he is third in the Heisman voting (a big if, I realize), would he return for his Sr season ?

The three statues are, of course, - Gators' three Heisman Trophy winners - Steve Spurrier is passing, Danny Wuerffel is getting ready to throw and Tim Tebow is running with the ball.
https://www.al.com/sports/2011/04/florida_unveils_statues_of_gat.html


The Miami games has me juiced ! Unlike SadGator & his gloom & doom, I think we win !
Since you bring up Sad being all gloom and doom, let me be the first to say, Sad=Gator Fever:p:D;)
 
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I would have liked it better had Franks stated that he wanted team goals first rather than individual awards:
- i.e, winning the SEC title!
- winning the national title by first qualifying for the playoffs than later beating two very high quality teams!

As we have all found out in the past from time to time, winning the Heisman can be more of a popularity contest rather than a way to crown the best college football player.

Maybe those three Heisman statues of Florida's so prominently displayed outside of the stadium are sending the wrong message to some people.
 
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https://www.heisman.com/heisman-winners/
I would have liked it better had Franks stated that he wanted team goals first rather than individual awards:
- i.e, winning the SEC title!https://www.heisman.com/heisman-winners/
- winning the national title by first qualifying for the playoffs than later beating two very high quality teams!

As we have all found out in the past from time to time, winning the Heisman can be more of a popularity contest rather than a way to crown the best college football player.

Maybe those three Heisman statues of Florida's so prominently displayed outside of the stadium are sending the wrong message to some people.

rdgtr,

while I see your point, I did some research on the 19 Heisman Trophy winners since the year 2000.

RBs = 3
QBs = 16
Number of Heisman winners who won either BCS or CFP championships = 5
Number of perfect seasons = 4 - all resulting in championships
Total victories = 226
Total losses = 32
Average winner won 11.9 games & lost 1.7 games in year he won Heisman
Worst record for Heisman Winner -
2016 Lamar Jackson - Louisville - 9 - 4

2007 Tim Teabow - 9-4; 5-3 SEC; 3rd in SEC East; behind Tenn & UGA.

Gators other Heisman winners -

1996 Danny Wuerffel - Univ Florida Gators - 12-1; 8-0 SEC; won SEC & BCS .

1966 Steve Spurrier - Univ Florida Gators - 9-2; 5-1 SEC; 3rd in SEC.

Obviously, both Steve Spurrier (40 yd FG against Auburn) & Tim Teabow won "a popularity contest " .

rdgtr,

Using your criteria, shouldn't we pull Spurrier's & Teabow's statues down & demand that they return their Heisman Trophies ?

If so, I appoint you, as a committee of one to do that !

Or should we accept that since 2000 (& probably before then but I didn't take the time to do all the research) you will not win the Heisman unless you are the QB (or occasionally a RB) on a highly successfull team & let it go at that ?

IMO, if Felipe Franks wins "the 4th statue", odds are that the Gators will have had a HELL of a season !

FWIW; in 2006 Teabow & Chris Leake went 13-1 & won a BCS championship.

Heisman Winners - https://www.heisman.com/heisman-winners/

College Football National Championship history - https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/college-football-national-championship-history
 
He would only be drafted at this point based on his physical characteristics and certainly not his play. We will see what he does with the 2nd best WR group in the SEC this season.

You cant blame him for shooting high I guess but non-Florida fans laugh when they hear stuff like that based on his performance so far.
 
As we have all found out in the past from time to time, winning the Heisman can be more of a popularity contest rather than a way to crown the best college football player.

Maybe those three Heisman statues of Florida's so prominently displayed outside of the stadium are sending the wrong message to some people.

Well, Choke-la-homos last 3 Heisman 'pretender' QB never brought home a NC, while all 3 of UF's have, (SOS as the ole HBC) ;)

But I agree that a Heisman should be the icing, with team goals as the cake. :cool:
 
Well, Choke-la-homos last 3 Heisman 'pretender' QB never brought home a NC, while all 3 of UF's have, (SOS as the ole HBC) ;)

But I agree that a Heisman should be the icing, with team goals as the cake. :cool:

You won’t ever have to worry about that mate. ;)

3* Dan will never win a Natty and Frankenstein will never win the Heisman. :eek::D
 
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While 79 spends his time mouthing useless chit all day long... :cool:

So, as per usual, insta's Trask agenda carries on.

Why else would the old man be so negative about someone hoping Franks has a great enough year that he's considered for the Heisman?
 
Says the drunk loser that has some real man 'playing' with his daughter every day....

Pitiful little attention beggar, kinda sad really, but here ya go,,, yet again.
Here to foul up yet another thread with his always village idiot smelly crap.
BothTotally Clueless and Boring is any ugly combination.

Never need to read his posts, because they are always going to be,,, what they are, and what he will always be. This asswipe stalker arrives to spread his usual crap, and to be the lonely despised drunk loser that he is... :confused:

There once was a goater named dunny,
who was always trying to be funny.
But with his head up his butt,
and a load of beer in his gutt,
when it came to the girls he got nunny...

ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz
 
Says the drunk loser that has some real man 'playing' with his daughter every day....

Pitiful little attention beggar, kinda sad really, but here ya go,,, yet again.
Here to foul up yet another thread with his always village idiot smelly crap.
BothTotally Clueless and Boring is any ugly combination.

Never need to read his posts, because they are always going to be,,, what they are, and what he will always be. This asswipe stalker arrives to spread his usual crap, and to be the lonely despised drunk loser that he is... :confused:

There once was a goater named dunny,
who was always trying to be funny.
But with his head up his butt,
and a load of beer in his gutt,
when it came to the girls he got nunny...

ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz

Sweetie, seriously, you need help.

I'm sorry I don't have the sweaty Eagle Scout arms of Kyle Trask but there has to be a way to make you happy.
 
Says the drunk loser that has some real man 'playing' with his daughter every day....

Pitiful little attention beggar, kinda sad really, but here ya go,,, yet again.
Here to foul up yet another thread with his always village idiot smelly crap.
BothTotally Clueless and Boring is any ugly combination.

Never need to read his posts, because they are always going to be,,, what they are, and what he will always be. This asswipe stalker arrives to spread his usual crap, and to be the lonely despised drunk loser that he is... :confused:

There once was a goater named dunny,
who was always trying to be funny.
But with his head up his butt,
and a load of beer in his gutt,
when it came to the girls he got nunny...

ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz
 
https://www.heisman.com/heisman-winners/

rdgtr,

while I see your point, I did some research on the 19 Heisman Trophy winners since the year 2000.

RBs = 3
QBs = 16
Number of Heisman winners who won either BCS or CFP championships = 5
Number of perfect seasons = 4 - all resulting in championships
Total victories = 226
Total losses = 32
Average winner won 11.9 games & lost 1.7 games in year he won Heisman
Worst record for Heisman Winner -
2016 Lamar Jackson - Louisville - 9 - 4

2007 Tim Teabow - 9-4; 5-3 SEC; 3rd in SEC East; behind Tenn & UGA.

Gators other Heisman winners -

1996 Danny Wuerffel - Univ Florida Gators - 12-1; 8-0 SEC; won SEC & BCS .

1966 Steve Spurrier - Univ Florida Gators - 9-2; 5-1 SEC; 3rd in SEC.

Obviously, both Steve Spurrier (40 yd FG against Auburn) & Tim Teabow won "a popularity contest " .

rdgtr,

Using your criteria, shouldn't we pull Spurrier's & Teabow's statues down & demand that they return their Heisman Trophies ?

If so, I appoint you, as a committee of one to do that !

Or should we accept that since 2000 (& probably before then but I didn't take the time to do all the research) you will not win the Heisman unless you are the QB (or occasionally a RB) on a highly successfull team & let it go at that ?

IMO, if Felipe Franks wins "the 4th statue", odds are that the Gators will have had a HELL of a season !

FWIW; in 2006 Teabow & Chris Leake went 13-1 & won a BCS championship.

Heisman Winners - https://www.heisman.com/heisman-winners/

College Football National Championship history - https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/college-football-national-championship-history

You have misspelled Tebow (not "Teabow") repeatedly in your post (also "Leake") which I find annoying - are you trolling? Learn how to spell those names, huh? What exactly do you think 'my criteria' is with your snipes about Spurrier & Tebow?

Those 2-3 players that you had mentioned set out to win conference titles first (not individual awards). I just haven't seen too many college players go out there and boast about winning the Heisman trophy as their main goal like Franks seems to imply.

Perhaps, we have all misinterpreted Frank's "4th statue" comment and what he really believed was that his fellow teammate, Michael Perine, will have a great year and thus will be very deserving of any individual awards. ;)

Franks should worry more about playing mistake free football, continue in getting better and in learning how to win more of the big ball games on the big stage (i.e beating Georgia for the SEC-E title, beating Alabama for the SECC, etc.) - something that Florida has not done yet under Franks. We'll see whether Franks returns for a redshirt-senior year or not . Of the three current UF QB's, I do think that Franks is the most durable and is probably the most talented, too.

Addressing one of your other points, it is a rare thing indeed to win both the national championship and the individual awards like a Maxwell/Heisman Trophy. That is something that both Danny Wuerffel and Tim Tebow (a year later after winning the Heisman in 2007 & leading Florida to the 2008 NC) have done in their careers.
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Regarding the Heisman, there have been many other great players in the past who had never won that award and were probably deserving also: i.e, Rex Grossman, Peyton Manning, Chris Leak, Emmitt Smith, Dan Marino, etc.

As for the "criteria", football is a team game. Team success depends on numerous individuals who have prepared all year long coming together to cohesively execute the game plans (defensively, offensively & special teams) devised by numerous coaches week to week. Any resulting individual accolades (i.e, All-Conference/SEC, All-American, etc.) that may or may not come will depend upon entirely on whether the team came close to meeting the team goals or not which at a minimum is a win every week. Winning should matter the most before any individual accolade.

And finally, those statues in front of BHG Stadium, afterawhile, I've always felt that they were kind of gaudy and boastful. It does not speak to the truely humble nature of each of the Florida Heisman winners who were very much into the team aspects of the sport rather than just personal glory.
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