Who is going to fix the recruiting? If you were 17-18 and had a choice between Bama, Clemson, Georgia, and UF (and FSU and Miami), which coach out there would be able to convince him to commit To UF -- especially with the NIL?
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Who is going to fix the recruiting? If you were 17-18 and had a choice between Bama, Clemson, Georgia, and UF (and FSU and Miami), which coach out there would be able to convince him to commit To UF -- especially with the NIL?
Yep even with the other 2 in FL down the rest of the SEC is taking many of the top ones while GA and LSU are keeping many of their top ones.
Not sure but he could start with finding a good recruiter when replacing Grantham. Hopefully we have some booster types willing to help with NIL as I think for the 23 class that will be a big thing for the very top recruits.
Actually, the way things are trending, these kids are going to have their NIL situations on lockdown before ever stepping on campus, so money isn't going to be as big of an issue for them as it once was. It's really going to spread out the talent to a greater extent, though, because the NIL will require exposure to maximize revenue, and going to a school where there are already 5 stars ahead of you and you will be a backup for a while is going to pale in comparison to being a starter in year 1 or 2. This is going to reduce the ability of Bammer and UGaly's (and LSU's and Clemson's) bagmen to pile money in front of a player in exchange for sitting and waiting their turn.
I have heard that argument but my own feeling is the same schools winning the recruiting battles now will make sure some big boosters know what might need to be done as far as NIL and overpay the very top recruits before they even step on the field. I admit I don't know our big booster situation exactly now but it just seems some of these other SEC schools now have a few more willing to do what needs to be done than we have. I think we had the same amount years ago that really loved football but not now.
Alright today was church day. What is he saying now?
Damn I forgot what a crackpot homer insta is. This is pretty good.
I love fans that think in 2021 that Top 5 programs that are NFL pipelines have to pay recruits to come there. This is simply a coping mechanism.
Crapple is really the FSU fan? I can't keep the trolls straight on this board.
Hey Ghost, tell these sumbitches they are crazy for wanting to shitcan Mullen…they need an impartial observer to tell them the truth…
Crapple smells like a double-masker, triple vaxxxxer.
Not sure why you guys are surprised, Dan isn't a people person, that's why he can't recruit.
You can either can him and reboot, or throw a Brinks truck at an elite DC and enjoy contending for the SEC for the next few years. That's what I would do, but I'm just a smelly Bammer, what do I know?
What DC out there is worthy of a Brinks truck? Brent Venerables and ???
If you're gonna keep Dan, then any DC this side of Grantham LOL
And throw a Brinks Truck at Venerables and make him HCIW and you could get him tomorrow. But you don't want to do that.
Bullshit. Ghost is a crazy, MF, but he knows his football. Ghost never commented on Mac. He appreciates Mullen.
I’m thinking Saban isn’t exactly a “people “ person either. But get his recruits because of his reputation. Dan is a long way from that. He needs good recruiting assistants.
Yall still let @GwinnettDawg post here? Even the Kent State board and some JUCO Canada board banned him. AFAIK he hasn't had anywhere else to go for the last 10 years.
Besides, he's just mad that I was proven 100% correct about Jimbo being the former Saban assistant that would beat Bama. Not the $3 bowlcut.
Saban can be quite charming in a recruiting environment. But Saban loves recruiting, Mullen hates it.
Dan needs good recruiting assistants as you said, and a stud DC.
This is true. I really like how charming he can be on the sidelines with his assistants. Know what I mean Lane?
Once they are on staff or on scholarship, Saban will chew that ass if they mess up. Then they will win another NC ring together, and Saban will then use that in January when he hosts recruits on campus.
If rival SEC fans think your coach is an asshole, you are probably doing something right.
This is exactly what we need in our coach.
Dan would be smart to take his millions and move on from loser Socialist-U.
Only a masochist, or someone with massive credit card debt, would remain here now daze.
Fire them all, then put an add in the Gainesville Mullet Wrapper for a new coaching staff.
That would be at least as effective as having the UAA & AD do the coaching search.
Like Kensucky in B-Ball and the Neutered Lame in football, Socialist-U can hire anyone they want, away from any other school in the nation, because that's who they are in today's world.
GooouuuGoaters!
Only a masochist, or someone with massive credit card debt, would remain here now daze.
Fire them all, then put an add in the Gainesville Mullet Wrapper for a new coaching staff.
That would be at least as effective as having the UAA & AD do the coaching search.
Like Kensucky in B-Ball and the Neutered Lame in football, Socialist-U can hire anyone they want, away from any other school in the nation, because that's who they are in today's world.
GooouuuGoaters!
Im sure Venerables is the unofficial unannounced HCIW at Clemson but who knows though. After this season is Dabo the HCIW portal HC for Bama when Saban retires(whenever that is)?
I don’t think I’d want to be the guy that follows Saban. Kind of the same issue we had of replacing Spurrier. It’s a tall task for sure regardless of how good the coach is because very good chance they won’t be as good as Saban.
Ghost was on record debating with Gwinnett saying that Dabo would take over Bama when Saban retires.
I can see if Venables was about 12-15 years younger than Dabo, but they're just a year apart in age, 50 and 51. Dabo is a Bama alum, but why would he want to make that move when he already has 2 CFP championships? Against Saban no less. Clemson is having a down year but they're not circling the drain the same way Mullen has UF going in that very direction. Dabo has been through worse seasons than he had this year.
Not sure what the deal is with him. Maybe he loves just being a coordinator and not having the overall responsibility as a head coach. I doubt Swinney or Saban are leaving anytime soon.
Trying to think in modern times what coaches have came back from really bad seasons (6-6 or worse) well into their tenure (say year 3 or after) at a power 5 school to start having real nice success after that most seasons. Brian Kelly is the only one people have mentioned as he made the title game in his 3rd season I think and then had that terrible 4-8 record a few years later in 2016 and has rebounded nicely since. Swinney people like to mention but he only had that bad 2nd season in reality and then good seasons working his way to the championships.
And even if Swinney did take over from Saban it is going to be hard on him because he’s not as good as Saban and he will be going from the ACC to the SEC which is a completely different animal.
I doubt very seriously that Venerables has been promised anything at Clemson past Dabo. Venerables has reportedly tried to get every major SEC and southern job for the past 5-10 years, with little or no interest from the schools.
And I know you guys all think Saban is always a year or two away from retiring, but it's not happening. The man continues to be in excellent physical condition, and has lost no love of the game. He could easily be at Bama another decade or longer.
I've had that guy on Ignore for 10 years LOL I did say that Dabo will likely come to Alabama after Saban retires, if that was soon, but it doesn't look like it will be. Dabo and Saban are good buds, and I could see a scenario where Saban steps down and takes over as AD. Maybe that happens, maybe not.
Now as of 2013, there was a plan in place at Bama for bowlcut to take over for Saban. This was confirmed to me directly by a former SEC head coach. Y'all have already mentioned how Bama was the first to start hiring former coaches and put them in off field 'analyst' type positions. Well this started as a way to help assemble Kirbs' future staff at Bama for him. The former SEC coach I talked to told me about the plan because one of his former coaches had just been hired at Bama in one of those analyst roles. He said the plan was that he was going to be elevated to join Kirbs staff once he took over for Saban.
For whatever reason, that plan was obviously nixed a year or two later, because Kirbs started putting out feelers for other jobs soon after the 2013 season. Saban isn't big on firing his assistants, unless they are a disaster. He will simply go to them and tell them they need to find somewhere else to work.
BTW it's worth noting that Bama won the 2015 NC in large part because of a suggestion from Jeremy Pruitt. At halftime, Bama was trying to decide what adjustments to make to slow down Clemson's QB Watson in the second half. Bama had been experimenting during the season with a 'rabbit' package that was based around moving a couple of Bama's younger and speedier LBs into rush end positions to try to get more pressure on the quarterback. Pruitt thought the package could stop Watson, Kirbs nixed the idea. Saban overruled Kirbs, said let's use it, and they did. Rashaun Evans was the focus of the package, and he had a field day in the 2nd half, he put pressure on Watson constantly.
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I'm not either, but there IS a deal. Other schools have looked at him and passed. IIRC, he reached out to Tennessee for an interview when they hired Pruitt, and they wouldn't even call him back.
That's why I said if you offered him HCIW, you could probably get him, but you wouldn't want to make him your next coach.
Exactly. Great point on BV. But some of yall keep listening to GOMM. He has pumped up every Saban asst with one exception. Guess which one that is. And all have failed or been mediocre. I still say Jimbo is highly overrated, his natty at FSU notwithstanding.
I don't know who "you guys" are as mentioning Saban is retiring in a few years. I never put a timeline. I just know every coach retires. You are the one who told Gwinneth that Dabo will take over for Saban.
Not too many SEC schools currently hire DCs to HCs. UGA lucked up with it. UT did not. Phil Fulmer dumbass passed on Venerables for Potato Head Pruitt? Damn
What happened to Bob Stoops can happen to Dabo. Same place too long and it becomes hard to hit the ceiling again. Saban is one of the rare animals. Not many made like him with the exception of Tom Brady...even Tom had to change scenary. Not saying he is leaving tomorrow but he isn't sticking around until he is 65.
I actually mentioned the reason for Bob Stoops retiring in another thread leaving while still in his coaching prime.
His father suffered a fatal heart attack while coaching a high school football game, in his 50's. The very reason he left coaching, although he did take a much less stressful coaching job in the XFL's Dallas franchise. Unfortunately, the league folded after 5 weeks because of COVID.
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