Dems omit God in Pledge of Allegience
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For the record it is “Revelation”. No “s”. And, John The Prophet was the author, Moron.
People can’t establish anything without God. All authority is established by God... maybe read the book of Romans.
Like I said, He doesn’t establish nations. He didn’t create the US, Israel or Iraq. He didn’t separate Yugoslavia into five different nations. As you quoted, people from all man made nations should unite under God.
You conservatives love to find meaning to fit your agenda. God frowns upon that.
Again, read the Bible... maybe take a clue from there.
“A revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. Christ made it known by sending it through his angel to his servant John,”
Revelation 1:1 CEB
https://www.bible.com/bible/37/rev.1.1.ceb
Are you just trying to trip our triggers, because it's working. Either that or you're simply trying to be God because I've noticed time and time again you speak for Him as if you ARE Him: "He also doesn’t care about nations." Jeez.
I’m just going by the Bible. Btw, I’m not the only one here that speaks for God. In fact, you all seem to know what he’s thinking as well. In fact, you know which Party he supports.
But think about it, why would God care what nation someone lives in? That’s like saying he favors certain football teams.
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Yes, I know what it says. But don’t you think you should know who wrote it other than some guy named John? Who was this guy? Should I believe the Quran, the Book of Mormon or David Karesh just because he claims to be a prophet? I’m trying to get you to think instead of just repeating others words.
Did you know that When Luther was picking and choosing the Books to include in the KJV he initially left out Revelation.
of course. Everyone knows that.
BTW this sounds precisely like the argument I've heard from every atheist that I've ever discussed religion with. Most claim to be Christians or say they once were but had their eyes 'opened'. They can never offer their own beliefs, they spend all their time attacking God and His teachings and mocking Christians for believing. The 'think for yourself' line is used early and often.
@BSC911 sounds much more like an atheist than a Christian to me. Plus atheists are almost always democrats from my experience, as @BSC911 is.
God cares about nations that lie about viruses, God cares about Nations that declare that another Nation should be annihilated, God cares about babies dying after being ripped from the womb and if we are going to back to the original documents and traditions we would still have slavery and women without the vote. If God has a vote do you think he would approve of the Dem platform allowing thousands of his children aborted and his followers.
I don't know if he's a Christian or an atheist, but he's a full time deluded anti-American socialist 🤡. JMOHO's of course.... 😎
Like the right to assemble? Like the right to vote? Like not involving foreign governments in our electoral process.
Trump is the biggest threat to our constitution in history.
Our nation has lied about many things. More accurately, our leaders, especially this one, have. Nations don’t lie, people lie.
PS. Trump has threatened to annihilate other nations several times.
There is only one God that actually came back from the grave. ONE. That's the One I choose to believe in. How about you?
Listen, I don't want you to think we think like that, because we don't. If we are actually speaking for God then we should be ashamed. I think it's that we probably don't explain it properly. God doesn't favor anyone over someone else (although I still believe His people is the people of Israel) - He loves everyone the same - including you.
But there is such a thing as spiritual blindness. The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. And if you truly believe your last paragraph, then you really don't know about the historical bible. Might want to pray for clarification and read Isaiah. This whole Christian thing has gone long here, but one thing is for certain: The God I serve is truly a loving God, the maker of heaven and earth and everything in between.But I would encourage you to try and see where we are coming from. We are not perfect by no means. But we can see the handwriting on the wall and America is pretty much like explained in Ezekiel 16:49-50, "'Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen."
I truly think Trump has exposed and will continue to expose detestable things that we have done and continue to do. Not because he's some Saint or a god, but because he has exposed the sinful system of politics and exposing of these sins is not without push back. We are justifying sin constantly as a nation and God has just about had it with us. I'm afraid we are going to be like Sodom. This is why I place abortion at the forefront, then perhaps sex trafficking, and on we go.
Wow. Sorry, but I could "preach it" for a long time.
I hear ya brother. But be careful with casting pearls.Listen, I don't want you to think we think like that, because we don't. If we are actually speaking for God then we should be ashamed. I think it's that we probably don't explain it properly. God doesn't favor anyone over someone else (although I still believe His people is the people of Israel) - He loves everyone the same - including you.
But I would encourage you to try and see where we are coming from. We are not perfect by no means. But we can see the handwriting on the wall and America is pretty much like explained in Ezekiel 16:49-50, "'Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen."
I truly think Trump has exposed and will continue to expose detestable things that we have done and continue to do. Not because he's some Saint or a god, but because he has exposed the sinful system of politics and exposing of these sins is not without push back. We are justifying sin constantly as a nation and God has just about had it with us. I'm afraid we are going to be like Sodom. This is why I place abortion at the forefront, then perhaps sex trafficking, and on we go.
Wow. Sorry, but I could "preach it" for a long time.
But he's not trying to remove God from our country. That's you guys.
Maybe that's why you guys are always losing and miserable, you get what you deserve.
Yep, like obama, biden, comey, clapper, brennan.
Thank goodness we have true Patriots like Trump, Barr and Durham who are bringing the guilty to justice!
I got caught up in it also. It is easy to do. When you love your faith so much, it becomes something that you want to defend to death. It took me a while before I finally figured out that I was either being played or the respondent was really that ignorant to the Bible. I came to the conclusion, I was being played.
Of course. But faith without works is dead (James 2:26). The problem with you Evangelicals (I’m assuming), is placing all of your eggs in one basket. Sorry, faith is not enough brother, you must also love your neighbor as yourself. And while opposing abortion is well and good, as I do, you are being played by the Republican Party who uses it as a carrot to fool the flock. Abortion will never be abolished in our country. So you single issue voters are just useful idiots for people like Trump, who clearly has no opposition to it other than as a political tool.
The Word over Party. Not visa versa.
PS. The discussion was about Revelation, not the gospels. Try to stick to the topic.
Can't do. Firstly, I didn't realize that Revelation was the topic. I thought God being removed from the pledge was the topic that morphed into Christian thought. No body can discuss Revelation without ending with a thousand questions. It is far beyond comprehension to any mind whether doctorate in theology or a simple farm boy with a 6th grade education. It's all presumption and assumption leading to your own prideful self-awareness of your own belief. Don't even go there and for you to even consider this nonsense is beyond the scope of reason. You have blinders on and cannot see your hand before your face. Indeed pearls have been thrown but not received.
I've never heard a Christian essentially say just give up on murdering babies, that's the way it will always be. The life of an unborn child is always worth fighting for, it's not something that Christians accept Heartbreaking that this has to be said out loud.
You are exactly correct. It's his mind proving his flawed character. His prideful self-awareness leads him into a false Christian made-up doctrine. It's impossible to reason with him. Conclusion: Let's stop trying.
Oh he's being completely disingenious in this thread, that was always obvious. The left thrives off attempting to normalize immoral behavior. Their defense of abortion is the absolute worst of humanity.
If you are truly confident, you shouldn’t be afraid to defend your position. And it is not for you to determine who is a false Christian. I could make that same claim about many. And spare me the pearl reference. You aren’t using it correctly.
Im always amazed at how many can recite verses, but dont understand where they came from.
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Golly gee wiz, you are so smart in your concept of Christianity. What do you mean defend my position?
Amazing to me you diss those who recite verses that the provenance thereof may not be known, but you advocate eliminating an entire book because you don’t think it fits
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I’m not the only one. The Eastern Orthodox Church doesn’t use Revelation. Luther was no fan. Neither was Calvin.
I don’t just accept every Book just because it’s all bound together. That’s what sheep do. Especially since the books included have changed over time. I like to understand the origins.
If that were true, then you should accept the Book of Mormon, or the Quran. Just because some unknown guy named named David called himself a prophet doesn’t mean I should accept his word as gospel (pun intended).
I presented several arguments., all backed by scripture. I was ready for a faith vs works discussion. You just crawled back into your little hole.
Honestly, as a former Catholic, I've been through these types of discussions and they don't go very well. It never ends well. One always wants to prove the other wrong without a just settlement - it never works. But honestly, I'm not shying away, but I do wonder how you can pick and choose books in the bible to your own liking. It's illogical and systematically flawed. BTW, which books do you accept?
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