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Grandfather's death pushes Demarkcus Bowman to Enter Transfer Portal; Clemson Pulls his Financial Aid

Bowman must have taken a long hard look at UF RB roster, (or the bag).
I'd be happy with Lee instead of Bowman anyway.

Demarkcus Bowman 5-11 186 ***** -- Lakeland, FL

Keyvone Lee 6-0 223 **** - Clearwater, FL
He can run by and away from the big guys, and stiff-arm or run over the fast guys.



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Lee and Wright would make a great 1a-1b combo for the near future, and Dan likes to run the ball.

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The last time that UF and Clemp's-son were both after a RB, we got Malik Davis.
The last time that UF and Bama were both after a RB, we got Perine.
I'm pretty okay with those results...
 
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Great player and would have loved for him to go to UF but I’ll never trip about a RB. Most important pieces to any offense is the playcaller, the oline, and then the QB in that order. Doesn’t matter how great a running back is if you don’t have an oline to open up holes and a QB who’s a threat to back the defense up with his arm. Fix that and anybody can run successfully. We were top 3 in rushing in the SEC last year and Scarlett was the only guy who was a high 4-star recruit.
 
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I'll be honest - this one hurts because everything was lined up (on paper) for him to come to UF. I don't disagree with the above per se but he's a Lakeland kid and his teammates from last year are here. For him to leave the state shows a weakness in recruiting that needs to improve.

This isn't a sky is falling - Mullen may simply not be an elite recruiter, meaning top 3 every year. I don't think that's required to win at UF but you have to be Top 10 every year and get some Top 5s every other year. This is the type of kid that pushing you into that Top 5 once the dust settles.

There's still a long way to go and the class for 20 is in good position to finish strong but this one does hurt.
 
instaGATOR said:
Bowman must have taken a long hard look at UF RB roster, (or the bag).
I'd be happy with Lee instead of Bowman anyway.

Demarkcus Bowman 5-11 186 ***** -- Lakeland, FL

Keyvone Lee 6-0 223 **** - Clearwater, FL

I'm pretty okay with those results...
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FYI the writers at 247 have been super high on Lee the entire cycle saying that he/Bowman really are close. Hoping we get Lee back into the fold now that Bowman is out.
 
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While the current crop of recruits were paying attention......Clemson's been elite....winning or contending for championships every year. We've been mostly struggling thru the Muschamp and McElwain eras. We need to string a few good seasons together and we'll be able to pull in the alleged superrecruits too.
 
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GatorTheo said:
While the current crop of recruits were paying attention......Clemson's been elite....winning or contending for championships every year. We've been mostly struggling thru the Muschamp and McElwain eras. We need to string a few good seasons together and we'll be able to pull in the alleged superrecruits too.
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Yep. That's the problem for Mullen right now. He can talk to this kid and say "Son, I was on the staff that won 2 NCs here at Florida in 2006 and 2008. We're gonna win 2 more, and I want you to be a part of them!"

Then Dabo can say "Son, I've already won 2 NCs at Clemson in 2016 and 2018. We're gonna win 2 more, and I want you to be a part of them!"

And it's obvious which message will resonate more. This isn't a Florida thing, if Dabo makes this same pitch to a 5-star Georgia kid, he will believe Dabo over Kirby. That's why we are talking about this 5-star kid picking Clemson over Florida instead of Georgia over Florida.

Winning games leads to winning recruits. That's all Mullen needs to focus on and the 5-stars will come.
 
instaGATOR said:
Bowman must have taken a long hard look at UF RB roster, (or the bag).
I'd be happy with Lee instead of Bowman anyway.

Demarkcus Bowman 5-11 186 ***** -- Lakeland, FL

Keyvone Lee 6-0 223 **** - Clearwater, FL
He can run by and away from the big guys, and stiff-arm or run over the fast guys.

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End of season highlights:

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Lee and Wright would make a great 1a-1b combo for the near future, and Dan likes to run the ball.

PS
The last time that UF and Clemp's-son were both after a RB, we got Malik Davis.
The last time that UF and Bama were both after a RB, we got Perine.
I'm pretty okay with those results...
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You spin me round, right round...
 
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GhostOfMatchesMalone said:
Yep. That's the problem for Mullen right now. He can talk to this kid and say "Son, I was on the staff that won 2 NCs here at Florida in 2006 and 2008. We're gonna win 2 more, and I want you to be a part of them!"

Then Dabo can say "Son, I've already won 2 NCs at Clemson in 2016 and 2018. We're gonna win 2 more, and I want you to be a part of them!"

And it's obvious which message will resonate more. This isn't a Florida thing, if Dabo makes this same pitch to a 5-star Georgia kid, he will believe Dabo over Kirby. That's why we are talking about this 5-star kid picking Clemson over Florida instead of Georgia over Florida.

Winning games leads to winning recruits. That's all Mullen needs to focus on and the 5-stars will come.
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It’s always about Kirby for you, isn’t it? It’d be funny if it weren’t so damn creepy.
 
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Yep. That's the problem for Mullen right now. He can talk to this kid and say "Son, I was on the staff that won 2 NCs here at Florida in 2006 and 2008. We're gonna win 2 more, and I want you to be a part of them!"

Then Dabo can say "Son, I've already won 2 NCs at Clemson in 2016 and 2018. We're gonna win 2 more, and I want you to be a part of them!"

And it's obvious which message will resonate more. This isn't a Florida thing, if Dabo makes this same pitch to a 5-star Georgia kid, he will believe Dabo over Kirby. That's why we are talking about this 5-star kid picking Clemson over Florida instead of Georgia over Florida.

Winning games leads to winning recruits. That's all Mullen needs to focus on and the 5-stars will come.
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Basically. We are not in a position to win these battles right now, which is why I said last year regardless of who Florida hired it would be a multi-year rebuild. It's not just the winning, which we haven't done a lot of lately, I mean we have two losing seasons in the past 5 years. It's also the boring, shitty style of play we've had for so long. We just ended a decade long drought of offenses outside the top 100. And to make matters worse our facilities are way behind our rivals right now, we won't even have a standalone football facility until 2021.

Meanwhile a team like Clemson has a football palace on campus, has won 2 of the last 3 national championships, and has one of the best offenses in the country every year. Relationships alone isn't overcoming all that, not for somebody like Bowman who can go to any school in the country.
 
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gatorbuilderorlando said:
I'll be honest - this one hurts because everything was lined up (on paper) for him to come to UF. I don't disagree with the above per se but he's a Lakeland kid and his teammates from last year are here. For him to leave the state shows a weakness in recruiting that needs to improve.
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That's too simplistic gbo. There are many factors that go into a recruits decision, money etc. sometimes being among them. I'd like to keep a 'bagman' out of UF's future. :oops:

And I remember when FSUcks got RB Sammy Smith, while UF was left to take the other lower rated RB Smith. How'd that work out? ;)

The pukes stars at the recruiting services don't determine UF's season outcome, our coaches and players do. (see 2018) o_O

Myself, I agree with SOS. I only want the recruits that WANT to be a Gators.
Cause in the end, 'if you ain't a Gator, then you're just more gatorbait'... :cool:
 
GhostOfMatchesMalone said:
Yep. That's the problem for Mullen right now. He can talk to this kid and say "Son, I was on the staff that won 2 NCs here at Florida in 2006 and 2008. We're gonna win 2 more, and I want you to be a part of them!"

Then Dabo can say "Son, I've already won 2 NCs at Clemson in 2016 and 2018. We're gonna win 2 more, and I want you to be a part of them!"

And it's obvious which message will resonate more. This isn't a Florida thing, if Dabo makes this same pitch to a 5-star Georgia kid, he will believe Dabo over Kirby. That's why we are talking about this 5-star kid picking Clemson over Florida instead of Georgia over Florida.

Winning games leads to winning recruits. That's all Mullen needs to focus on and the 5-stars will come.
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~ Dan can say; 'son, UF is a Top 10 school in football and in academics',,, the ONLY one in the nation as recently as 2018.
~ Dan can also say that 'Gator Nation' is worldwide and it lasts a lifetime.
~ Dan can also say that UF is the premier 'All Sports' school in the Nation.
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~~ And nobody else out on the recruiting trail but Dan can say,,,,
"If you ain't a Gator,,, then you're just more gatorbait." :D
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GBO, after winning the 2006 and 2008 NC's in double-digit style, what was UF's 2009 recruit class ranked. o_O
Rivals 2009 Class - #11 UF :eek: DOH! :confused:
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Meyer's classes at UF:
05 - # 15
06 - #2
07 - #1
08 - #3
09 - #11
10 - #2
11 - #12
Average Class 46/7 = 6.6 -- So not even in the Top 5 on average. :oops:
Meyer's last 3 Classes average was 8.3 and falling...

 
GwinnettDawg said:
You spin me round, right round...
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Speaking of spinning... :confused:

With a better HC, a better OL, and better RB's,,, why did the mutts do so poorly? o_O

2018 UF vs UGly

1st Dn's rushing - UF 9 -- UGly 8 (UF +1)
Rushing Yd's lost - UF 14 - UGly 13
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Rushing Yds - UF 170 -- UGly 189 (UGly +19 yds)
Rushing Att - UF 37 - UGly 41 (UGly +4 attempts)
Yd's per Att - UF 4.6 - UGly 4.6
Rushing TD's - UF 1 - UGly 1
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Note: UF's secondary is 'full strength' healthy again, and now there is talented depth.
8 Starters return for the #20 defense in the nation.
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Fromm began the season as the #2 SEC QB, and finished as the #2 QB.
Franks began the season as the #10 SEC QB, and finished as the #3 QB.
I guess we'll see how our QB's perform in the passing game in the coming season... :cool:
 
GatorTheo said:
While the current crop of recruits were paying attention......Clemson's been elite....winning or contending for championships every year. We've been mostly struggling thru the Muschamp and McElwain eras. We need to string a few good seasons together and we'll be able to pull in the alleged superrecruits too.
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Top 10 Classes at Rivals right now, not after a few good seasons:

1. LSU
2. Clemp's-son
3. Red-turds
4. scUM
5. Gators - 'Dan the Man'
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6. PSU
7. FSUcks
8. Schmuckeyes
9. N.C.
10. UGly - '4th & Dumb'
 
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instaGATOR said:
Speaking of spinning... :confused:

With a better HC, a better OL, and better RB's,,, why did the mutts do so poorly? o_O

2018 UF vs UGly

1st Dn's rushing - UF 9 -- UGly 8 (UF +1)
Rushing Yd's lost - UF 14 - UGly 13
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Rushing Yds - UF 170 -- UGly 189 (UGly +19 yds)
Rushing Att - UF 37 - UGly 41 (UGly +4 attempts)
Yd's per Att - UF 4.6 - UGly 4.6
Rushing TD's - UF 1 - UGly 1
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Note: UF's secondary is 'full strength' healthy again, and now there is talented depth.
8 Starters return for the #20 defense in the nation.
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Fromm began the season as the #2 SEC QB, and finished as the #2 QB.
Franks began the season as the #10 SEC QB, and finished as the #3 QB.
I guess we'll see how our QB's perform in the passing game in the coming season... :cool:
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Remember that time you said the only that matters is the score? I think it was concerning Clemson and South Carolina. Of course it’s different now and that’s why you are being such a pathetic loser with your moral victory act. 19 is the only number.
 
GwinnettDawg said:
Remember that time you said the only that matters is the score? I think it was concerning Clemson and South Carolina. Of course it’s different now and that’s why you are being such a pathetic loser with your moral victory act. 19 is the only number.
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So, you don't want to face the running game realities, so you just spew some more drivel instead.
Link to me on Clemp's -son vs Lamecocks score comment??? I'm calling BS... o_O

Your UGly buttsniffers are currently on their best (2 Gms) winning streak against the Gator's since the 1980's, so roll with it for as long as it lasts (N-F-L)... :cool:

Which team runs for more yards at the next WLOCP?
Does either or both team(s) rush for 200+ yards?
Will the Gator D knock Froom outta the Heisman race, or will he be out of it long before that game? :oops:

Go ahead and answer BIG, cause you won't be here to face the music after our game, so it won't matter,
 
Bigger interest in which team wins the game, not most rush yardage. Your OL is horrid, and ours is far superior. Our DL, specifically our Freshman Smith from IMG will blow up FF all game. Enjoy.
 
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oozie7 said:
Great player and would have loved for him to go to UF but I’ll never trip about a RB. Doesn’t matter how great a running back is if you don’t have an oline to open up holes and a QB who’s a threat to back the defense up with his arm. Fix that and anybody can run successfully. We were top 3 in rushing in the SEC last year and Scarlett was the only guy who was a high 4-star recruit.
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Yeah, because 4 star guys like N.Anderson, JLWilliams, N.Moore, E.smith, E.Rhett, and F.Taylor, just to name a few, don't make any difference at all... :rolleyes:

I wonder why the 2 stars and W-O RB's on the Gator roster aren't playing instead of the lower rated 4 stars? :rolleyes:

'Come On Man'.... :cool:

#3 APB Na'Quan Wright **** - HS 7.7 YPC

#8 RB Dameon Pierce **** - 6-1 YPC as an SEC tFr

#29 Ath Iverson Clement **** - 4.7 YPC in very limited use, (ST's and backup FS)

#16 RB Malik Davis **** - Under-rated imo, he broke Ray-Ray's McCloud's HS rushing records. Ray-Ray played at Clemson, now with the NFL Bills.

#30 RB Lamical Perine **** - 6.2 YPC - Ala HS APB of Year

#13 RB Jordan Scarlett **** - 5.9 YPC - rsJr E-D to NFL
 
2018 SEC QB ratings:
Tua 199.5
Fromm 171.2
Ta'amu 153.5
Lock 147.7
Bentley 146.3
Shurmur 143.9
Franks 143.3
Guarantano 141.0
Stidham 137.7
Mond 135.0
Wilson 134.0
Burrow 133.2
Storey 116.9
Fitzgerald 116.8

Franks improved but he wasn't 3rd. He was top half at 7th (5th in the East).
I see you posted some JAX game stats. What was the score?
I longed for days of moral victories by alligators when Spurrier was leading the Gators. I never imagined they would be prevalent during 19 point losses. Good times.
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instaGATOR said:
Speaking of spinning... :confused:

With a better HC, a better OL, and better RB's,,, why did the mutts do so poorly? o_O

2018 UF vs UGly

1st Dn's rushing - UF 9 -- UGly 8 (UF +1)
Rushing Yd's lost - UF 14 - UGly 13
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Rushing Yds - UF 170 -- UGly 189 (UGly +19 yds)
Rushing Att - UF 37 - UGly 41 (UGly +4 attempts)
Yd's per Att - UF 4.6 - UGly 4.6
Rushing TD's - UF 1 - UGly 1
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Note: UF's secondary is 'full strength' healthy again, and now there is talented depth.
8 Starters return for the #20 defense in the nation.
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Fromm began the season as the #2 SEC QB, and finished as the #2 QB.
Franks began the season as the #10 SEC QB, and finished as the #3 QB.
I guess we'll see how our QB's perform in the passing game in the coming season... :cool:
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GADAWGinIraq said:
2018 SEC QB ratings:
Franks improved but he wasn't 3rd. He was top half at 7th (5th in the East).
I see you posted some JAX game stats. What was the score?
I longed for days of moral victories by alligators when Spurrier was leading the Gators. I never imagined they would be prevalent during 19 point losses. Good times, on UGly's latest 2 Game Win Streak over the hated Gators... :rolleyes: -- So let's dance...
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As usual, you're behind the times in jawja, or in turbanville...
I was going by the post Spring, pre-2019 rankings for SEC QB's.

1. Tau
2. Froom
3. Franks
Last year at this time Franks was listed as the #10 QB in the SEC.

And you love the rankings, right up until the Final Coaches Poll happened...
Could you list those for me? No? Well here, let me do it for you. o_O
6. UF-Dan
8. UGly-4th & Dumb
You're welcome... :cool:
 
DawgAXE said:
Bigger interest in which team wins the game, not most rush yardage. Your OL is horrid, and ours is far superior. Our DL, specifically our Freshman Smith from IMG will blow up FF all game. Enjoy.
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Is that your own opinion? Please explain in detail for us, the difference in your OL and UF's for 2019. Otherwise, you're just another leghumper barkin' outta your butt. o_O

Yeah, yeah, heah. nuttlicker fans make a living on their early days wins (back in your great-granddaddy's era), back when UF was still erecting the buildings and paving the streets for the Model-T's. UF only had a few hundred students total, but since 1950, UF has the W/L advantage, (in my own lifetime) :p

But hey, I guess that has-been's need to hang on to whatever they can. :rolleyes:
Like UGly had a NC before late comer UF, but zero since then, while UF has had 3 NC's in just the last 22 years. :cool:
 
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Bigger interest in which team wins the game, not most rush yardage. Your OL is horrid, and ours is far superior. Our DL, specifically our Freshman Smith from IMG will blow up FF all game. Enjoy.
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Unsurprisingly, you stupidly prove his point. You guys are vastly more talented right? Have a vastly better oline right? Then how on earth is it possible that our putrid line rushed for as many yards on your vaunted defense as your vaunted oline managed to rush for against our defense. Magic? If our line sucks then so does yours.
 
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As usual, you're behind the times in jawja, or in turbanville...
I was going by the post Spring, pre-2019 rankings for SEC QB's.

1. Tau
2. Froom
3. Franks
Last year at this time Franks was listed as the #10 QB in the SEC.

And you love the rankings, right up until the Final Coaches Poll happened...
Could you list those for me? No? Well here, let me do it for you. o_O
6. UF-Dan
8. UGly-4th & Dumb
You're welcome... :cool:
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That's not moving up... that's attrition. LOL.
I'm pretty sure we were both 7 in the AP poll and we won the division, win 11 games, and beat you by 19. However, like I said and you conveniently ignored, I'm LOVING the moral victory by you after losing by 19.
Would you like me to post a coaches ranking?
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UF 27 - 19 LSU (-8)
LSU - 36 - 16 UGly (-20)
UGly - 36 - 17 UF (-19)

UGly lost to LSU worse than UF lost to UGly, and UF beat LSU.

#5 UGly 21 - 28 #15 TX (+7) :p
Nothing 'moral' about that, choking to a much lower rated team.

#10 UF 41 - 15 #7 Mich (-26) :eek:
Even with a few missing, they were the #1 ranked D in 2018.

AP Poll - biased media-moron voters
7t. UF
7t. UGly

Coaches Poll -- more credible professionals
6. UF
8. UGly

Now, what's the combined average ranking for both? o_O
13/2 - 6.5
15/2 - 7.5

Your WLOCP beat-downs will resume shortly... :cool:

Here's what you mutts are in for....

https://florida.rivals.com/news/my-leaving-thought-there-s-no-excuse-for-a-bad-attitude-
 
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UF 27 - 19 LSU (-8)
LSU - 36 - 16 UGly (-20)
UGly - 36 - 17 UF (-19)

UGly lost to LSU worse than UF lost to UGly, and UF beat LSU.

#5 UGly 21 - 28 #15 TX (+7) :p
Nothing 'moral' about that, choking to a much lower rated team.

#10 UF 41 - 15 #7 Mich (-26) :eek:
Even with a few missing, they were the #1 ranked D in 2018.

AP Poll - biased media-moron voters
7t. UF
7t. UGly

Coaches Poll -- more credible professionals
6. UF
8. UGly

Now, what's the combined average ranking for both? o_O
13/2 - 6.5
15/2 - 7.5

Your WLOCP beat-downs will resume shortly... :cool:
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That may be the dumbest transitive thing I've ever read, especially considering since we're talking about UGA-UF. You just posted stats from the game earlier... Dawgs won by 19 at your place according to Dan Mullen.
 
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Bigger interest in which team wins the game, not most rush yardage. Your OL is horrid, and ours is far superior. Our DL, specifically our Freshman Smith from IMG will blow up FF all game. Enjoy.
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Final AP rankings for 2018:

7 - Florida
7 - Georgia

Current Rivals Team Recruiting Rankings for 2020:

5 - Florida
10 - Georgia

Looks like the Legend of Kang Kirby is over before it really got started.
 
Wait a minute there, let's go to the 'Composite' rankings.

UF -- 7t + 6 = 13/2 = 6.5

UGly 7t + 8 = 15/2 = 7.5
 
oozie7 said:
Great player and would have loved for him to go to UF but I’ll never trip about a RB. Most important pieces to any offense is the playcaller, the oline, and then the QB in that order. Doesn’t matter how great a running back is if you don’t have an oline to open up holes and a QB who’s a threat to back the defense up with his arm. Fix that and anybody can run successfully. We were top 3 in rushing in the SEC last year and Scarlett was the only guy who was a high 4-star recruit.
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This +1
A great example is Cam Akers at FSU.
 
instaGATOR said:
UF 27 - 19 LSU (-8)
LSU - 36 - 16 UGly (-20)
UGly - 36 - 17 UF (-19)

UGly lost to LSU worse than UF lost to UGly, and UF beat LSU.

#5 UGly 21 - 28 #15 TX (+7) :p
Nothing 'moral' about that, choking to a much lower rated team.

#10 UF 41 - 15 #7 Mich (-26) :eek:
Even with a few missing, they were the #1 ranked D in 2018.

AP Poll - biased media-moron voters
7t. UF
7t. UGly

Coaches Poll -- more credible professionals
6. UF
8. UGly

Now, what's the combined average ranking for both? o_O
13/2 - 6.5
15/2 - 7.5

Your WLOCP beat-downs will resume shortly... :cool:

Here's what you mutts are in for....

https://florida.rivals.com/news/my-leaving-thought-there-s-no-excuse-for-a-bad-attitude-
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Georgia lost to LSU more than Florida lost to Georgia. Holy shit I don’t even know what to say to this. You are a child.
 
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Georgia lost to LSU more than Florida lost to Georgia. Holy shit I don’t even know what to say to this. You are a child.
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But you spew out more clueless drivel anyway...o_O

My response to several nuttlickers posting here about how bad the buttsniffers beat the Gators, while LSU beat you worse, and the Gators beat LSU. But don't fret, you're the have the average intellect of a 'can't finish' leghumper. :cool:

Both UF and LSU won their bowl game vs higher ranked teams. o_O

UGly got bitch-slapped held to just 21 Pts by Big12/10 no defense #15 Texass.:oops:

Leghumpers whined about Choke-la-homa getting into the CFP instead of jawja. The chokers averaged 42 Pts vs Texazz in their 2 games. Looks to me like the CFP Committee got it right in their selections. o_O

With the resulting Final Coaches Poll Results:
6. UF
7. LSU
8. UGly
:p:cool::p
 
Now, back to the Clemson RB thread subject. Yet another thread hijacked by the buttsniffers begging for some validation on the Gator board. :rolleyes:

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RB Recruiting differences.

1. I want to play right away,,, and be a 1,200+ yard ball-hog RB.

2. I want to get a top quality degree, play a lot in a rotation that keeps me fresh, and not be burned out in 3-4 years so that I will have a decent shot at an NFL career before I move on to the (degree) rest of my life.

If I was a Gator recruiter, I might offer a guy in the 1. category, but I'd spend my time on the guys in the 2. category that WANT to be a lifetime part of the Gator Nation.

Which one had the most recruiting stars would be irrelevant to me.

The 2nd part of RB recruiting:

1. Great YPC average in HS, with lots of yards and TD's.

2. All around player that can run with power and speed, ran block, pass block, and catch the ball coming out of the backfield. Knowing when and how to do any of those things as needed to make the team successful.

If I was a Gator recruiter, I might offer a guy in the 1. category, but I'd spend my time on the guys in the 2. category that WANT to be a lifetime part of the Gator Nation.

Just me, but I'd rather get a 3-4 star that fits Cat-2 in both, than a 5 star 'prim-a-dona' that's a Cat-1 in both. :cool:
 
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My response to several nuttlickers posting here about how bad the buttsniffers beat the Gators, while LSU beat you worse, and the Gators beat LSU. But don't fret, you're the have the average intellect of a 'can't finish' leghumper. :cool:
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LOL... we beat you (at home according to your coach) by 19 points and we beat both of the teams by 2 tds who both beat you by double digits in the Swamp. We also won the division. We're also going to beat you at home again this year... by 3 tds. ZZZZzzzzzzzz!!!
 
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