Who's writing legislation to defund the police? Just because you're loud and angry doesn't mean you're right.
Defund Police: dims revisionist history
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No one us wanting to write legislation for Q. That’s the point. And no one is loud or angry. Points were capitalized and bolded so you wouldn’t miss them this time around.
Conversely:
US Democrats introduce sweeping legislation to reform police
The "martyrdom" of George Floyd will spark changes in policing, says Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi.
www.google.com
Here is a list of actual cities who have written policy to defund. Take a guess which party did it?
It is DEMOCRAT-RUN cities that are defunding the police. Here are just a few:
New York
Philadelphia
Washington, D.C.
Baltimore
Los Angeles
San Francisco
Minneapolis
Seattle
Portland, Oregon
Oakland
Austin, Texas
Hartford, Connecticut
When is Sobel going to advise them to refund?
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Reform is not defund. Even the Republicans agree with Reform and they are currently negotiating that.No one us wanting to write legislation for Q. That’s the point. And no one is loud or angry. Points were capitalized and bolded so you wouldn’t miss them this time around.
Conversely:
US Democrats introduce sweeping legislation to reform police
The "martyrdom" of George Floyd will spark changes in policing, says Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi.www.google.com
Here is a list of actual cities who have written policy to defund. Take a guess which party did it?
It is DEMOCRAT-RUN cities that are defunding the police. Here are just a few:
New York
Philadelphia
Washington, D.C.
Baltimore
Los Angeles
San Francisco
Minneapolis
Seattle
Portland, Oregon
Oakland
Austin, Texas
Hartford, Connecticut
When is Sobel going to advise them to refund?
Once again you ignore the other information. And politicians use pretty names all the time to hide the devil in legislation, but you already know this. (For the People Act) Don’t get sidetracked. Focus on the list of cities that HAVE legislated defunding. ALL those cities are democrat run cities. So again, Title is spot on. Dims ARE the party of defund the police.
Again. When is Sobel going to denounce what this cities have done?
Ask yourself some questions. Who kills more African Americans….Police officers or others? What has defunding lead to? More or less violent crime in those cities? Which party supports what? Whats the real goal?
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But that isn't what they are saying. Clearly, defund is not reform. Are they really that ignorant?
This is like when the dems said 'Oh no, we aren'r defunding the police, we are RE-IMAGINING what police departments should look like:'.
Riiiiiiiiiight. Dems always try to change the labels for what they want to do to make it sound like it's good and wholesome.
It's not murdering babies (abortion), it's 'healthcare for the mother'.
When you take money from the police department, that's defunding. Goodness you dems are dishonest about everything.
Riiiiiiiiiight. Dems always try to change the labels for what they want to do to make it sound like it's good and wholesome.
It's not murdering babies (abortion), it's 'healthcare for the mother'.
When you take money from the police department, that's defunding. Goodness you dems are dishonest about everything.
No once again you're lying to make it look like you're right. I'm not sidetracked but you tried to present reform as defund. You and your sneaky ways. I still maintain that you're over exaggerating how much the democrats believe in that. I've said multiple times that it's the hard core left. Every person you present is hard cord left but it's definitely not Biden stance.
Please drop the act and fake anger about him not denouncing it because he has said its not happening and he doesn't believe in it. You just don't like his approach or him, so you'll find away to whine about it. He wasn't as forceful as you would like because you think his tone would change minds? That never worked for any president.
Here you go boo. No need to make it look like you’re right, when you ARE right.
Joe Biden said he supported reallocating police resources during the campaign.
Kamala Harris said “I applaud Eric Garcetti” for defunding the Los Angeles police.
Harris said “we have to reimagine public safety” while discussing lowering the police presence in communities.
Biden's Associate Attorney General Vanita Gupta said officials must heed calls to “decrease police budgets and the scope, role, and responsibility of police in our lives.”
As Boston Mayor, Biden's Secretary of Labor Marty Walsh proposed a budget to divert funding from law enforcement.
Biden's Assistant Attorney General Kristen Clarke supported efforts to “defund the police.”
Democrat Rep. Val Demings called the Minneapolis City Council “very thoughtful” for voting to dismantle the police.
Nancy Pelosi and fellow House Democrats refused to criticize the Minneapolis City Council for defunding the police.
Democrat Maxine Waters called for protestors to “get more confrontational” with police.
Democrat Ilhan Omar called for dismantling the Minneapolis Police Department.
Democrat Cori Bush called for defunding police as a congresswoman-elect.
A Democratic National Convention panelist advocated for defunding the police: “We’re talking about abolishing the police…ICE…prisons.”
A Minneapolis City Council member defended defunding the police, but said she didn’t “have all the answers” on who would respond to violent crime.
Democrat Rep. Jim Clyburn compared federal law enforcement to the Nazi Gestapo, and later ignored looting and arson in D.C., claiming the only violence he saw in D.C. was from police.
Democrat Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison said he doesn’t want police officers to respond to rape.
Former Democrat Rep. Joe Kennedy said he supported Maxine Waters’ call to confront the police.
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Trump himself was on board with criminal system reform. Clearly, defunding the police can't possibly attain the goal of criminal reform. It's in fact counter-productive. I agree that our drug sentencing minimum mandates need some serious attention and rewriting, particularly the non-trafficking ones............huge waste of money. Police should be focusing on victim crime, not chasing their tails over idiots who abuse themselves but no other. The sad part is that they breed and perpetuate more uselessness in their children. You can't take a POS and change them, a tiger never loses it's stripes unless it wants to.
OMG. are you reading anything I say? Or are you replying before you read? I've said everyone you mentioned that specifically who said defund the police, everyone in the article is far left, AOC, Bush, Waters, Omar, Ellison, etc. You're just repeating yourself and my point. Now the people who didn't criticize, doesn't count as supporting defund the police. That's a stretch. Please don't respond repeating that the far left is for defund the police. I know that.
Biden is for reallocation to help the police officers. So is the Republicans. They are literally negotiating that right now. Do you not know what's going on in congress? They are negotiating moving funds for training, equipment, de-escalation, etc. I don't think you know the depth of what you're talking about. Everything is defund to you apprantley 🙄
Facts are facts. You aren’t addressing ALL the cities that have already defunded, nor are you addressing all the people sobel has put in leadership positions that support or have supported defunding, including his own VP that he hand picked. I guess he puts far leftists in leadership positions? Those are the ACTIONS he has taken. Another action: not denouncing those who have defunded. The public by and large views the dim party as the party if defunding the police, and rightfully so.
Why do you think dims recently came out trying to reframe the issue? I know CNN is telling you dims don’t support defunding. Look at their own words and actions.
My arms are getting tired from going yard!
Here’s a good compilation. It’s led by the squad, but there are some pretty mainstream politicians in this group - including Kamala who has called for redirecting funds away from law enforcement several times.It's not spot on. You're being sneaky by making it seem like it's the Democratic party as a whole. White supremacy exists within the Republican party and you dislike that people say the Republican party is racist. My point is, you're doing exactly what you don't like. I said it exists with some people in the Democratic party but it definitely doesn't make up the Democratic party. It's not even close.
I attached articles of leaders saying they aren't for it or don't agree with it back in 2020 too, before the election. Did you not read them? I'll attach another one. There's plenty of them with videos and quotes. Maybe you haven't seen it already because OAN/Newsmax/Fox won't show it, so they can control your mind with a false narrative. Remember all media is sneaky.
Now if your issue is that they didn't denounce it like you or Trump would, that's just silly. There are more than one way to skin a cat.
Biden, Democrats seek to shut down calls to defund police
Presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden and Democratic leaders on Capitol Hill are quickly shutting down calls to defund police departments as the party grapples with how to resp…thehill.com
Reallocation............. from what I might ask? They are going to shrink the resources of officers on the street, salaries, vehicles, dispatch.......what? Already cities are having shortages of police that just don't want to do a thankless job anymore, mayors are quickly realizing REAL crime is even worse. What are they going to do, draft and conscript people into the field and pay them less? 😂
Do you have any clue what % of police budgets are local vs federal?
Do some homework and come back and explain to the board why you’re even talking about what Biden is doing.
It exactly what I said, all far left. You guys are literally proven my point. The part on Pelosi was a lie. She was wasn't calling on defund, she was addressing the calls to defund. I'm not saying that it's not the democrats. I'm just saying his title is misleading because it's not the party as a whole. It's a few people.
Yes the public does because of great messaging by the Republicans. The rest is inaccurate from you like always.
Nah. Spot on. Notice that there is one cat who consistently gets accused of being dishonest, changing the subject, claiming to be something he isnt? Yep, YOU.
Same cat, claimed to be an independent and yet almost always defends dims, and yet does not do the same for pubs with the same veracity. EVERYONE knows why. The closet even wants you to go outside for a bit.
You didn't answer any of my questions, in particular reallocation. Reallocate means remove from one place to another. What's going to get cut to achieve this?
It wasn’t all far left. It was led by the far left, but some mainstream democrats are in that clip. Or are you saying all Dems are far left?
Now, please address my other post. You might learn something for a change.
I'll give you some time to reply. This isn't a trap or troll, it's an honest (and important) question.
Reallocating money isn't saying pay them less or taking money from them. It's giving them money in different ways. Like giving them money directly for cameras, mental health training, de-escalation, etc. It's still going to them and their development. It's just ways of making their job easier.
If we ever meet I am going to pee on your leg and convince you it’s raining. Should be easy as long as I introduce myself as an elected democrat
So we have a VP thats an extremist. I know this, do you?
Math says differently, that doesn't add up.
Something is going to get shortchanged. Reallocation = moving one resource to somewhere else. Reallocation is NOT additional appropriations, someone or something always gets the shorter straw.
That's not my intention. I'm asking him hard questions to make realize taking money from police budgets for nefarious (and unproven theories) isn't going to solve any problems but make them worse. Law enforcement (and the people they serve) are both going to suffer.
It's apart of reform. So yes it's different on how they receive it but it's not defund. Defund is giving you $5 instead of $10. Reform and reallocation is still giving you $10 but finding ways to make the most of the $10.
Kalim, the far left has the spotlight on them. They are trying to push policies and the lefty media gives them the microphone.
You still haven't come to the right answer. Your city's police payroll budget is $10. The mayor decides that $5 OF THAT is going to go toward sensitivity training and wokeness classes. That means half of the existing staff has to go. How's that "reallocation" going to keep their city safe again?
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You're defunding the police in your scenario. I'm saying give them more money which would increase the budget but give some of the money to particular programs and training.You still haven't come to the right answer. Your city's police payroll budget is $10. The mayor decides that $5 OF THAT is going to go toward sensitivity training and wokeness classes. That means half of the existing staff has to go. How's that "reallocation" going to keep their city safe again?
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And Bill? The can have the microphone and camera. That doesn't mean that they are making legislation. They aren't. AOC sponsored or Co sponsored 30 bills since she's been in the house. Only 1 made the floor of the Senate and that was in 2019. The far left is just loud.
You're trying to tell me everyone that uses drugs steals from other people?
To quote the Vegetable in Chief, "C'mon man."
You can't reason with a dem. He starts out with where he wants to go "Dems do NOT want to defund the police!" and is spinning/lying about all the information he encounters in order to try to connect the dots to that end point.
He's a troll.
Reallocation:
reallocate DEFINITIONS AND SYNONYMS
VERBTRANSITIVEUS/riˈæləˌkeɪt/
WORD FORMS
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DEFINITIONS
to decide officially that something will be used for a different purpose
Again, that's not what the word means by your definition. If I have one pie, and cut it into 5 pieces and put two pieces on your plate, my plate has lost 2/5's of it's original condition. I would have to get additional pie from somewhere else to maintain status quo. Police budgets are already stressed to the point of breaking cities' government funding. Most of their pension plans are underfunded and in deep water as it is. When say "reallocate" you assume MORE funding from other sources. Where will this come from? Overtaxed residents or more federal pork from the taxpayer trough? Reallocation is like rearranging the various deck chairs on the Titanic to solve a problem. Without an outside rescue mission, it's going to sink no matter how they are arranged.
By jove, I think he's getting warmer!! Without more funding overall, reallocation is a cut in services......which is again the original call to action......Defund the PoPo by the left. 😂
