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Not even the same. Trump views evolved on things as well. I am sure you don't feel the same about him.
I feel you brother, it's gonna be a long season in Sooner land as well.
Wondering if moving to the SEC was a good idea.
Because they would not ever agree to a debate period. The only time one ever has is when Chrissy Wallace, the leftist rat from FOX was moderating. He was no better than either of those clowns last night. Wallace is now a low level employee at one of the fake news orgs now. His CNN podcast crashed and burned before it ever left the starting blocks, zero interest in it. This lady says it all.
Trump has evolved slowly over the years, he was a NYC Democrat earlier in life.
But over time the left has moved hard left the the right a bit to the right. But JFK wouldn't be allowed in today's Democrat party.
But these changes happen over decades and are evolutions. Her positions have completely flipped in 3 years. She's lying about who she is to get votes.
Does this sound different than today?
Because he needed to get her onto a debate stage. She won't do anything else unscripted.
So only Trump can evolve. Thanks for confirming that. Also he evolved on things like electric cars, TikTok and cryptocurrency this year.
This is just an example of you guys holding democrats to a different standard because you want something to whine about.
Nope. Trump has NEVER had bullshit, socialist ideas and then flipped on them. And that's EXACTLY what Kumswalla has done, and Bernie Sanders just confirmed it. It's all about lying about her beliefs and once elected, flip flopping back.
Wait one. He used to be in favor of assault weapons bans and extended waiting periods. Said so in 2000.
Bro, there are things about America that are fundamental. If you wanted to get rid of the first amendment, for example, that is Un American and treasonous, not a differing opinion.
Trump used to be a dem and had some weird ideas about the 2nd amendment 20 years ago, and he was the first Pub since Reagan to pass gun control in office.
So I'm watching him.
I don't "feel" things about politicians, any more than I feel things about garden tools. Politicians are supposed to be a means to an end until they started voting their own pay raises and we lost complete control of the bastards.
Harris wants a border wall now when she didn't want one 3 years ago whilst simultaneously making the claim that undocumented migrants are the least likely to commit a crime.
She's talking out of both sides of her mouth.
So absolutely, not even the same.
Great point.
I’ve forgotten which two primaries Kamala won in 2024…oh wait…well…she won the Palace Coup so I guess that’s the one that counts.
Newsflash: like the tweet YOU posted from “the Prof” every politician running for office no matter the party spews BS to get votes.
Oh my my. I feel faint. Bring me a fan and a glass of iced tea.
BUT was this really unscripted? Her responses to her questions were definitely scripted out.
I happen to disagree (strongly) on lockdowns (it was D not Trump) and that OWS was actually a miracle although mandates are a disaster.
Either way, this election has zero to do on Covid.
Election 2020 is also a loser issue.
We will see what happens.
I may have mentioned this before, but I went to our Natty game in 09. I met MANY sooner fans and they were really good to party with. What I appreciated about them was that you could tell that they had been there before. I think back then we surprised many of your fan base because our defense was INCREDIBLE that year. We had some goobers come over to our free board smack talk place at SCOUT claiming they were going to score 60 on us and we just LOL's at them, but the people I met in person were really good people.
Did you even watch the two clips Fatman posted? Obviously you didn't. Trump really hasn't changed much philosophically in 40 years, other than figuring out Democrats were now enemies of our Constitution and ordinary and sane people.
I quoted this for Kalim a couple of days ago. Sanders is a communist but he's not a liar. He's a communist 100% of the time and twice on Sunday, has never waivered from that fact. When a truth teller makes a statement you better believe them.
He absolutely did. He also said he thinks it's a states' rights issue and he followed through on that.
He established a position and he held it. What's your point?
It was exactly like watching a 3 against 1 wrasslin match in the WWE. Right @NavigatorII?😜
Pretty much. The mods were jumping off the top rope and breaking chairs over Trump's head. Cackles was hiding in the corner and grinning like the Joker.
So his views changed to views that you agree with, so you are ok with it. Gotcha.
I expect more honest out of you.
That’s a little different from going from Left of Bernie Sanders to a moderate in 3 years.
And you know that.
Trump cares about the country, Kamala will do anything for power.
By lying about your entire ideology and existence? 😂 Sorry bubba, the means don't justify the end. That dog won't hunt.
Democrats have been doing this for decades now. The ruse is over.
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YOU don't get to judge honesty. After MDF you are one of the most intellectually dishonest people on this board.
24 years. Starting well b4 he ran for office
versus
"I changed all my positions 180 degrees 2 months b4 an election I have to win and didn't expect to have to win myself."
Riddle me this, if migrants don't cause crime why do we need a border wall???????
Once again, GTFO with that.
Right. So he put his beliefs to the side and worked to send the abortion decision to the states.
He didn’t change his position, but he let the people decide.
You know, like someone who cares about the country instead of winning just to support his ego or hold power.
He’s already admitted that politics are like religion for him.
No data, facts or events will ever change his political views.
Quite the departure from the “independent” or “researcher” he claimed he was.
No coincidence that you call the people that don't agree with your views intellectually dishonest. That's very expected and weak.
No, Trump changed his views to become more conservative when he decided to run for president as a republican in ~2015. It's something multiple Republicans have stated. His views are whatever will get you guys to vote for him.
Once again, I don't deny that Kamala changed her stance on certain policies to win an election. I still view her phony and fake. I just don't get why you guys care so much when Trump did the same thing. Oh wait, I do understand. It's because you guys need something to whine about so you can win an election.
Now I really don't get the point of migrant crime being mentioned, but yes, crime comes from everywhere.
Saying "but you have to win elections" is the "definition" of caring about getting power.
So don't bring up how democrats do things for power because Republicans do too. Only a fool would think that Republicans don't care about power. No side is ok with losing.
You didn't watch either video of Trump did you? That's what I thought. Trump didn't need to run, he's got the wealth of kings. He's cared about this country a long time. In 2016 we'd suffered 16 years of RINOs and Obama and looking down the gun barrel of 8 years of Skankipotimus. He wanted to make America better again. Republicans were sick of it, that's how Trump got nominated to begin with. Trump has an enormous ego but he has the best interest of America at heart, and socialist marxism ain't it.
I’m taking about Trump vs Harris.
You’re having some sort of weird ideological (religious?) debate with yourself.
Good luck!
Somehow he is correlating swamp critters with DJT. He's not in this for the money.
He supports a party that is ideologically monolithic.
Someone like Trump is the equivalent of a political space alien to him.
Another good example of evolution versus waffling.
Barack Obama campaigned on ending the war.
Then he. won the election and got read in on tactical and national security.
Not only did he not end either war he began bombing the ever loving shit out terrorists.
Because once he had all the information, he knew that his position was untenable.
Barack Obama campaigned on ending the war.
Then he. won the election and got read in on tactical and national security.
Not only did he not end either war he began bombing the ever loving shit out terrorists.
Because once he had all the information, he knew that his position was untenable.
and course you don't because you don't want to.
I'll say it again.
If "undocumented migrants are the least likely to commit a crime cackle cackle cackle" and "people can't be illegal" then why would a person need a border wall to keep them out??????
I await your ridiculous response.
I think I remember hearing Biden was waffling on Bin Ladin's hit and Obama rolled his eyes and gave the thumbs up.
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