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She didn't lie. She doesn't share that view anymore. People views evolve. Just because you guys refuse to accept that, it doesn't mean others can't.
You can't do a 180 on every major issue and not lie about it.

She knows she can't share her real positions and get elected, if she does in fact have any real positions.

And you don't "share" political positions, you "have" them.
 
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First time in her entire time in politics she was able to put coherent words and sentences together. You don’t go from word salad queen to your best performance ever live on stage. I watched her look like she was listening to something and then answering a few times. I told my daughter in law look how her right ear is covered by her hair she never has it that way. Now you know the rest of the story!!!
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I have no clue if she was wearing earbud earrings or not, but these are real.





But the earrings she was wearing look different. They have two bars under the pearl, not a solid single bar. I guess it's possible a unique version was made for her, but these are tech, not jewelry. I think this is a stretch.

And if that was the best she could do with someone in her ear, holy crap.
 
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She didn't lie. She doesn't share that view anymore. People views evolve. Just because you guys refuse to accept that, it doesn't mean others can't.
She’s a political weathervane.

Fracking, Medicare for all, the border.

9 years later, his age and all of the Trump-ness has dulled his sharpness when he obliterated Jeb and Marco.

You don’t care about the border. 70 percent do, but he couldnt make the case tonight and convepositive energy.

His relitigating 2020 was a disaster (as it always is). He should have said, “she (Kamala) did not even make it to 2020 or even the CA primaries.”
To the people that were undecided, this was a poor performance by Trump. He knew what was coming, and she still had him on his heels from the start. Her content was mostly all lies, but he did/could not pin anything on her. I knew she would have the questions in advance. Everyone knew that. Still should not have mattered. She got under his skin and created doubt. A once unlosable election just became very losable. Trump has to recover from this. Going to be tough sledding like I said before the debate
unfortunately, very unfortunately, this is spot on.

10M more illegals will pour through if she wins.

Of course the media was friendly, but there were no “crazy, out there” topics.

I am sure his handlers are beyond frustrated.

She prepared and did well. Trump, it appears, winged it and against a real debate opponent versus Sleepy Joe, he lost. He took the bait - every time.
 
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You can't do a 180 on every major issue and not lie about it.

She knows she can't share her real positions and get elected, if she does in fact have any real positions.

And you don't "share" political positions, you "have" them.
The debate has ZERO to do with who could run the Country better. That is our only hope. And it was obvious it was 3 against one..and people MAY object to that. But Trump looked really bad handling the attack that everyone knew was coming. And Kamala looked 100% NO DOUBT she had the questions and was rehearsed.
 
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She’s a political weathervane.

Fracking, Medicare for all, the border.

9 years later, his age and all of the Trump-ness has dulled his sharpness when he obliterated Jeb and Marco.

You don’t care about the border. 70 percent do, but he couldnt make the case tonight and convepositive energy.

His relitigating 2020 was a disaster (as it always is). He should have said, “she (Kamala) did not even make it to 2020 or even the CA primaries.”

unfortunately, very unfortunately, this is spot on.

10M more illegals will pour through if she wins.

Of course the media was friendly, but there were no “crazy, out there” topics.

I am sure his handlers are beyond frustrated.

She prepared and did well. Trump, it appears, winged it and against a real debate opponent versus Sleepy Joe, he lost. He took the bait - every time.
What makes it even worse is he is on TV this morning claiming he won. Narcissistic egomaniac. We ALL know this...but keep it in check. This election was OVER pre debate. Now we see......
 
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CAN ANYONE EXPLAIN TO ME like I am 5 years old how your values have not changed BUT every policy /stance you have taken the past 10+ years, including the last 3.5 as VP have all basically been flipped flopped????????????? ANYBODY?????
 
To the people that were undecided, this was a poor performance by Trump. He knew what was coming, and she still had him on his heels from the start. Her content was mostly all lies, but he did/could not pin anything on her. I knew she would have the questions in advance. Everyone knew that. Still should not have mattered. She got under his skin and created doubt. A once unlosable election just became very losable. Trump has to recover from this. Going to be tough sledding like I said before the debate
I disagree.

He got a little too mad in one response about halfway through, but he went after her and made the broader case that she's the incumbent and things were better under his leadership. And he regained his composure for the rest of the debate.

Even 3v1, he made that broader point, that one key point is all voters need to worry about.

There's going to be some fake poll bump for 3-5 days then it'll be right back where it was before the debate. And the fact she's claiming she wants another means her team doesn't think she won hands down. If she did why risk another appearance?
 
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CAN ANYONE EXPLAIN TO ME like I am 5 years old how your values have not changed BUT every policy /stance you have taken the past 10+ years, including the last 3.5 as VP have all basically been flipped flopped????????????? ANYBODY?????
A watchdog group listed her as the most liberal Senator on the floor. Left of Bernie freaking Sanders.

She has stated these positions repeatedly for years. Her father and mother were both Marxists. She was raised in SoCal and Montreal. She's a Socialist and always has been, anyone who gets past the surface knows that.

She's using the "values" line to bridge her lying about her past to her current flip flops, and it doesn't work at all.
 
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CAN ANYONE EXPLAIN TO ME like I am 5 years old how your values have not changed BUT every policy /stance you have taken the past 10+ years, including the last 3.5 as VP have all basically been flipped flopped????????????? ANYBODY?????
It's just politics. They will lie whenever if fits their needs. It's expected. I know it's aggravating but not many people seem to care.
 
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What makes it even worse is he is on TV this morning claiming he won. Narcissistic egomaniac. We ALL know this...but keep it in check. This election was OVER pre debate. Now we see......
Stop the hand wringing Francis.

The core on either side was decided before the debate. Nothing that happened on that stage is going to swing a wide swath of undecideds.

And he did make a majority of the points he needed to make. You're just freaking out because Kamala stayed off the sauce enough to prepare answers for questions she had beforehand, and leverage the fact that Trump was debating 3 people at once.
 
It's just politics. They will lie whenever if fits their needs. It's expected. I know it's aggravating but not many people seem to care.
Dude.

There's lying and there's fundamentally changing nearly every core policy position you've held your entire career because you realize that's not what will win an election.

It's like saying going 10 over and going 120mph in a school zone are both speeding. I don't think we've ever seen a politician try to do what she's doing.
 
She’s a political weathervane.

Fracking, Medicare for all, the border.

9 years later, his age and all of the Trump-ness has dulled his sharpness when he obliterated Jeb and Marco.

You don’t care about the border. 70 percent do, but he couldnt make the case tonight and convepositive energy.

His relitigating 2020 was a disaster (as it always is). He should have said, “she (Kamala) did not even make it to 2020 or even the CA primaries.”

unfortunately, very unfortunately, this is spot on.

10M more illegals will pour through if she wins.

Of course the media was friendly, but there were no “crazy, out there” topics.

I am sure his handlers are beyond frustrated.

She prepared and did well. Trump, it appears, winged it and against a real debate opponent versus Sleepy Joe, he lost. He took the bait - every time.
You make very good and valid points. Trump was totally unprepared and it showed. When you do debate prep with Laura Loomer it tells me you are not serious. We all knew the media was going to be biased because every debate for decades has had a biased media promoting Democrats. That is nothing new. A good debate prep team would have prepared him for that but no, Trump has Loomer in his ear. Pathetic.

I also blame the GOP for a lot of this. They let Trump bully his way through the primary without having to debate any of the issues. Trump was afraid to get on the stage with fellow Republicans because he has so much baggage he cannot defend. His handling of Covid for one thing. His shutting down the government was a disaster and he is still bragging about his vaccine and building respirators. No one wants to hear that nonsense. Promoting Warp Speed is a loser position. History may reveal Trump was the weakest Republican candidate and the only one who could lose to a Democrat nominee from one of the worst administrations in the past 100 years.

Harris knew how to bait Trump and he fell for it. Still arguing the 2020 election was stolen is nice for MAGA but the rest of America turns that off and Trump comes off sounding like a lunatic. He should drop that now. The facts are it will take more than MAGA for Trump to win and he has not shown any desire to reach others.
 
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You can't do a 180 on every major issue and not lie about it.

She knows she can't share her real positions and get elected, if she does in fact have any real positions.

And you don't "share" political positions, you "have" them.
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) told NBC News on Sunday morning that Vice President Kamala Harris is being “pragmatic” by changing her positions on issues such as fracking and Medicare for all.


For those watching at home, he means lying through her teeth. Trump nailed her when he said he needed to get her a MAGA cap. 😂
 
She’s a political weathervane.
Fracking, Medicare for all, the border.
She prepared and did well. Trump, it appears, winged it and against a real debate opponent versus Sleepy Joe, he lost. He took the bait - every time.
Too well in fact. It's like she knew every question, every line was rehearsed. She got softballed and then deflected at every turn. The moderators literally asked Trump, "are you a bad man", and then followed up with Harris, "why is Trump a bad man?"

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I disagree.

He got a little too mad in one response about halfway through, but he went after her and made the broader case that she's the incumbent and things were better under his leadership. And he regained his composure for the rest of the debate.

Even 3v1, he made that broader point, that one key point is all voters need to worry about.

There's going to be some fake poll bump for 3-5 days then it'll be right back where it was before the debate. And the fact she's claiming she wants another means her team doesn't think she won hands down. If she did why risk another appearance?
My friend...I really hope you are right, and I am wrong here. As you know, I had Trump winning BIGLY before this happened. My confidence got shook so bad I did not sleep well last night.
 
Megan Kelly has it right. The one-side Moderators will backfire and Trump will be the beneficiary. The Dims are too stupid to know that and have taken the extra rope and hung themselves.
 
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It's just politics. They will lie whenever if fits their needs. It's expected. I know it's aggravating but not many people seem to care.
Sad view, although in many cases true. However just like anything else in this world, just because the profession has a bad name does not mean this is the way it has to be...or what we need to expect
 
Megan Kelly has it right. The one-side Moderators will backfire and Trump will be the beneficiary. The Dims are too stupid to know that and have taken the extra rope and hung themselves.
Just like the lawfare...this may end up costing these POS's the election. Trump made it 76 years without an arrest...all of a sudden he is a criminal? BS..and ANY person who even lets that cross their lips is a POS to me
 
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It's just politics. They will lie whenever if fits their needs. It's expected. I know it's aggravating but not many people seem to care.
Especially not the modiRATors during the debate. They asked her about it. She babbles on about nonsense and they say nothing and no follow up. The MSM doesn't even try to pretend any longer.
 
You make very good and valid points. Trump was totally unprepared and it showed. When you do debate prep with Laura Loomer it tells me you are not serious. We all knew the media was going to be biased because every debate for decades has had a biased media promoting Democrats. That is nothing new. A good debate prep team would have prepared him for that but no, Trump has Loomer in his ear. Pathetic.

I also blame the GOP for a lot of this. They let Trump bully his way through the primary without having to debate any of the issues. Trump was afraid to get on the stage with fellow Republicans because he has so much baggage he cannot defend. His handling of Covid for one thing. His shutting down the government was a disaster and he is still bragging about his vaccine and building respirators. No one wants to hear that nonsense. Promoting Warp Speed is a loser position. History may reveal Trump was the weakest Republican candidate and the only one who could lose to a Democrat nominee from one of the worst administrations in the past 100 years.

Harris knew how to bait Trump and he fell for it. Still arguing the 2020 election was stolen is nice for MAGA but the rest of America turns that off and Trump comes off sounding like a lunatic. He should drop that now. The facts are it will take more than MAGA for Trump to win and he has not shown any desire to reach others.
Weakest Republican got 75MM votes as an incumbent.

That’s more votes than anyone in history.

And his answer on Covid was really good last night. He never mentioned the vaccine, and he didn’t say WarpSpeed, but he did mention the resources and materials his administration gave the world to help fight the China flu. He focused on the best parts of the response.

And the polling on election integrity show that more and more people believe we are in trouble as a country. And regardless, he needs to keep focusing on it because without it we have no country.

Some issues supersede poll testing.
 
Especially not the modiRATors during the debate. They asked her about it. She babbles on about nonsense and they say nothing and no follow up. The MSM doesn't even try to pretend any longer.
MSM moderators are very predictable. Why would a republican ever agree to have them moderate? At least have one moderator from each side.
 
My friend...I really hope you are right, and I am wrong here. As you know, I had Trump winning BIGLY before this happened. My confidence got shook so bad I did not sleep well last night.
Dab off your axe wound and relax.

Trump did a good job last night. Kamala had everything stacked in her favor and still cackled and went into word salads in the last 30. She should have put him away. Most normal candidates would have been crushed.

And her facial expressions were snarky and contrived.

All Trump needed people to walk away with was “was your life better 4 years ago or not”…and he hammered that several times, including his closing statement.
 
Dab off your axe wound and relax.

Trump did a good job last night. Kamala had everything stacked in her favor and still cackled and went into word salads in the last 30. She should have put him away. Most normal candidates would have been crushed.

And her facial expressions were snarky and contrived.

All Trump needed people to walk away with was “was your life better 4 years ago or not”…and he hammered that several times, including his closing statement.
from your keyboard to my ears. Would you please type the Gators will win 8 games for me this year? LOL While I am here...might as well get 2 for 1
 
Trump is an idiot.
In some things certainly but they are in fact eating cats in Ohio.

The fact that a bunch of people took advantage of this by adding AI images is the nature of the internet.

Target never sold Satan themed clothes to kids, but they did sell LGBT themed clothes. The fake Satan crap was a slight of hand.

My Haitian friends are looking at me like "these are the people we came here to avoid."
 
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