Cowboys Jerry Jones to Players: “Stand For the Anthem or You’re Off the Team”

[fsu939913]

Well nobody is arguing if it's 'fair' or not fair, I've said over and over they have a right to not sign him. But acting like there's any other reason they're not signing him is bullshit. The comparison to other players doesn't make any sense either because they aren't QB's. Rightly or wrongly QB's are seen as the face of a franchise so there's more scrutiny. Nobody cares if a safety kneels. Proof for that point is the fact that Kaep's teammates voted him some trophy or something like that for what he did and multiple of them joined him yet the narrative is he's a distraction to his teammates, go figure. People only care about the QB.

Kap also made it a point to speak out about it every time he had the chance. I personally cant believe some of his teammates didnt fight him for not doing it. Anyway, my question is why would someone sign a qb that has that much of a distraction. I think saying he is the qb is part if it but he also went above and beyond to wear pig socks and the castro shirt. Its a mixture of all of it.

 

[Dannygator1989]

And then his girlfriend went and called the ravens owner a slave owner.

The company you keep speaks volumes.

Manziel has been at least trying to reinvent himself, Kaepernick doesn't seem to give a ****.

 

[alaskanseminole]

Just more proof Kaepernick is being black balled from the league. I actually agree with Jones' point about it being disrespectful, but its hard to play that card when you got players doing hella drugs, beating up girlfriends, getting DUI's, etc. and you'll defend them and keep them on the team. But sitting for the anthem is where you draw the line?

Well, $hit...there's my post. I guess I should be thankful...less typing on my part this way.

 

[kb851]

Lengthy, but I had a few minutes this morning...and I get that many will simply grit their teeth and get angrier...

Point is, many who dislike his protest, would want to do similar but for something else.

The shameful thing is that in making his, so many who exhibit disrespect in their own lives, heap scorn on him over a matter they do not understand. It is not exactly crazy for him to want to express misgivings over some treatment in this country.

Twitter, I phones, lack of reading, lack of curiosity, embracing of anti intellectualism like we have today, would have mocked MLK and company as well. As most know, and you can look at any unadulterated pictures and contemporaneous accounts of the Civil Rights era, things like the rebel flag came out of the woodwork as group think southerners, and to a lesser extent in other regions of the country, treated those sitting in, or marching, as though their cause was ridiculous. I mean hell boy, just eat somewhere else...was the mantra.

This is less egregious, but nonetheless a similar situation. Period. I am kind of glad that the ridicule people like John Lewis endured paid off with country improvements. We still have some room to go. Kaepernick was using his forum to point that out. There is an odd fear of freedom many have in this great country. Someone pointing that out makes them edgy.

So they attack...with tired lines like you have it good why should you complain. Meanwhile, and this is simply the truth, a whole lot of people in the south voted for an elite NYC millionaire, the type of man they detested a month before, because he beganto say things they liked to hear. THEY are responsible...THEY are hurting you. YOU CHRISTIANS are the ones being discriminated against. Etc... Kaepernick seemed mild compared to that...set of bait....and the price being paid for the NYC game show host set of lies is infinitely higher...as opposed to the small price of awareness that is the cost of the football kneel.

The game show host did nothing but use a big forum to protest things. And people bought it. So, relax a little.

 

[sadgator]

If you don't stand for the national anthem, you are an asshole...period.

This country ain't perfect (nor will it ever be), but as an American citizen, you ought to embrace the concept that it constantly aspires to be so...

 

[bradleygator]

If you don't stand for the national anthem, you are an asshole...period.

This country ain't perfect (nor will it ever be), but as an American citizen, you ought to embrace the concept that it constantly aspires to be so...

You think this country is constantly aspiring to be perfect? Not sure about that one.

 

[fsu939913]

You think this country is constantly aspiring to be perfect? Not sure about that one.

Go live in syria for a yr. Come back and tell me how it went. Or better yet, North Korea

 

[sadgator]

You think this country is constantly aspiring to be perfect? Not sure about that one.

Absolutely. The framework that the founding fathers gave us was created to form "a more perfect union." There are always going to be things about this country that are flawed and imperfect, but the system is designed to correct and adjust its own flaws over time for the benefit of all citizens...

And if you are someone who is fortunate enough to throw a football for a living because of the freedoms we have been granted, you are an asshole if you do not have enough respect to stand for the national anthem and flag.

You want to make change? Go do something productive to foster it. Fortunately, you have the right to do that in this country.

 

[fsu939913]

Absolutely. The framework that the founding fathers gave us was created to form "a more perfect union." There are always going to be things about this country that are flawed and imperfect, but the system is designed to correct and adjust its own flaws over time for the benefit of all citizens...

And if you are someone who is fortunate enough to throw a football for a living because of the freedoms we have been granted, you are an asshole if you do not have enough respect to stand for the national anthem and flag.

You want to make change? Go do something productive to foster it. Fortunately, you have the right to do that in this country.

^ Yep

 

[oozie7]

Go live in syria for a yr. Come back and tell me how it went. Or better yet, North Korea

This response doesn't make any sense. He doesn't think the country is perfect/striving to be perfect so he needs to go live somewhere else? What? That response is similar to the super homers who tell anybody who dares criticize the team, no matter how valid the criticism, to "go cheer for somebody else!" America is the best country on the planet but nah it ain't perfect nor are we striving to be perfect, that's dumb. Especially not with these shitty ass politicians that keep dividing people using social issues while continuing to drive the economy into the ground, all the while they profit. That's what constitutes striving to be perfect? You can have valid criticisms of the country while still holding it in high esteem, the two aren't mutually exclusive.

 

[fsu939913]

This response doesn't make any sense. He doesn't think the country is perfect/striving to be perfect so he needs to go live somewhere else? What? That response is similar to the super homers who tell anybody who dares criticize the team, no matter how valid the criticism, to "go cheer for somebody else!" America is the best country on the planet but nah it ain't perfect nor are we striving to be perfect, that's dumb. Especially not with these shitty ass politicians that keep dividing people using social issues while continuing to drive the economy into the ground, all the while they profit. That's what constitutes striving to be perfect? You can have valid criticisms of the country while still holding it in high esteem, the two aren't mutually exclusive.

Liberals cry injustice thiss and injustice that. I would actually like them to feel and see injustice. What they see as injustice is not injustice. America is by far the best place to live and if all u do is say how bad we suck and criticize, well, show me a better place then. Go live in another country for a few yrs, i lived in Japan for a yr, we have it GREAT here. "Injustices" and "problems" that we have are speed bumps in the road compared to the mountains in other countries. Yet when u say that ur a racist a sexist a bigot and a fascist. Nah gurl, im truthful

 

[oozie7]

Liberals cry injustice thiss and injustice that. I would actually like them to feel and see injustice. What they see as injustice is not injustice. America is by far the best place to live and if all u do is say how bad we suck and criticize, well, show me a better place then. Go live in another country for a few yrs, i lived in Japan for a yr, we have it GREAT here. "Injustices" and "problems" that we have are speed bumps in the road compared to the mountains in other countries. Yet when u say that ur a racist a sexist a bigot and a fascist. Nah gurl, im truthful

But he didn't say any of that. All he said was he wasn't sure about us striving to be perfect. And honestly, no government strives to be perfect. The entire purpose of government is to control, NONE of them are striving to be perfect. Politicians are out for self. Always has been always will be no matter the country.

 

[TennesseeGator]

But he didn't say any of that. All he said was he wasn't sure about us striving to be perfect. And honestly, no government strives to be perfect. The entire purpose of government is to control, NONE of them are striving to be perfect. Politicians are out for self. Always has been always will be no matter the country.

Don't depend on the government or politicians to help you (you as a general terminology,and not necessarily you Oozie) strive country perfect. We have many freedoms to keep government interference from our goals.

 

[fsu939913]

But he didn't say any of that. All he said was he wasn't sure about us striving to be perfect. And honestly, no government strives to be perfect. The entire purpose of government is to control, NONE of them are striving to be perfect. Politicians are out for self. Always has been always will be no matter the country.

I could smell the Lib on his post and knew where he was going. I cut him off at the pass. Hes always whining about America. Anyone who thinks we r horrible nneds to check out other places. Those politicians are mostly out for themselves but its in their best interest to keep the country together so they stay in power. So our interests are aligned here. Meanwhile poor bradley is crying about the social injustice and whining that we r not perfect.

 

[sadgator]

sadgator has absolutely no doubt in his mind that he is by far and away the biggest liberal on this board...believe it...raised by hippies and damn near a socialist...and sadgator makes no apologies for it.

But the ideals of what this country is and what it stands for (and what that flag and anthem stand for) are so much bigger than any one person, cause, or political party in power. To disrespect all of that and to make those ideals take a back seat to any singular issue for your own exploitation is incredibly foolish and actually contrary to the desired result.

If Kap really wanted to make a statement, he should have stood taller and sung the anthem louder than anyone else in the stadium on behalf of all the voices he is trying to represent with the hopes of better uniting us all.

 

[oozie7]

Don't depend on the government or politicians to help you (you as a general terminology,and not necessarily you Oozie) strive country perfect. We have many freedoms to keep government interference from our goals.

And day by day they take more and more steps to take away those freedoms, which goes back to my point about governments existing to control. This country isn't anywhere close to what the founders envisioned. Whether that's good or bad depends on who you talk to. But I for damn sure agree with your point about not depending on government or their politicians. F*ck em all.

 

[oozie7]

I could smell the Lib on his post and knew where he was going. I cut him off at the pass. Hes always whining about America. Anyone who thinks we r horrible nneds to check out other places. Those politicians are mostly out for themselves but its in their best interest to keep the country together so they stay in power. So our interests are aligned here. Meanwhile poor bradley is crying about the social injustice and whining that we r not perfect.

LMAO@ I could smell the lib on his post. Even though I know that's metaphorical I got a chuckle out of visualizing you actually sniffing out a post.

 

[LizardGrad89]

http://kfrog.cbslocal.com/2017/07/2...s-stand-for-the-anthem-or-youre-off-the-team/

As the Dallas Cowboys begin training camp, Owner Jerry Jones wants to make one thing very clear to his team before the 2017 NFL season begins.

If any of his players want to take a knee during the National Anthem, don’t expect to see them on the roster for much longer.

Last season, Jones told CBS Radio’s 105.3 The Fan, “I got to give a big pat on the back to our entire team, our coaching staff, our entire organization. We strongly, strongly support the flag in every way we support — and it’s almost ridiculous to be saying it — the people who for generations and generations have given it all up so that we can get out here and show off in front of millions of people on television.”
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I am glad my favorite NFL team is doing this. Now all those crazed lefties from Austin, TX can stay home instead of attending Cowboy games if they think the players should be allowed to tick off most US Flag loving patriotic fans.

This is a business and employees shouldn't be allowed to bring very bad publicity that can hurt your brand if the owner doesn't purposely allow that conduct. Go do your protest away from the stadium while not in uniform or something.

Funny, my response to this is the entire team should kneel.

 

[sadgator]

This country isn't anywhere close to what the founders envisioned.

Ben Franklin actually invented twitter.

 

[bradleygator]

the system is designed to correct and adjust its own flaws over time for the benefit of all citizens...

Is that what the system is designed to do?

 

[sadgator]

Is that what the system is designed to do?

sadgator thinks so (at least in part). They provided checks and balances and gave us a framework that could evolve along with the country without spelling the end of the Republic. Hell, the Constitution itself had the Bill of Rights, so they knew even at the time that amendments and changes would be necessary over time to better protect the ideals they were trying to aspire toward.

 

[bradleygator]

sadgator thinks so (at least in part). They provided checks and balances and gave us a framework that could evolve along with the country without spelling the end of the Republic. Hell, the Constitution itself had the Bill of Rights, so they knew even at the time that amendments and changes would be necessary over time to better protect the ideals they were trying to aspire toward.

That may have been the concept, but I don't know how much relevance that concept has to the current way of doing things. The extremely rich have been getting exponentially richer and just about everybody else has getting poorer for about the last 50 years, so I'm not sure about checks and balances there. It's not about republicans vs. democrats, both of whom have overseen the reallocation of wages and wealth to the very rich. Party affiliations are basically artificial constructs to keep the weak minded arguing about abortion, prayer in schools, the pledge of allegiance, etc... while the fraud continues, and so that morons like FSU# shout "love it or leave it!" to anyone pointing any of this out. Both parties supported TARP, which bailed out financiers that bet on failing mortgages (but no bailouts for the mortgage holders). Both parties have overseen zero or negative interest rates for the last 30 years to artificially prop up asset (real estate and stocks) prices to the detriment of everyone else's savings. Congressional republicans voted what, 100 times to repeal Obamacare, which was a massive windfall to the already obscenely wealthy healthcare industry. What did they do when they had the house the senate and the White House? There is one political party and the only issue it cares about is hooking up the financiers that keep them in office.

 

[fsu939913]

That may have been the concept, but I don't know how much relevance that concept has to the current way of doing things. The extremely rich have been getting exponentially richer and just about everybody else has getting poorer for about the last 50 years, so I'm not sure about checks and balances there. It's not about republicans vs. democrats, both of whom have overseen the reallocation of wages and wealth to the very rich. Party affiliations are basically artificial constructs to keep the weak minded arguing about abortion, prayer in schools, the pledge of allegiance, etc... while the fraud continues, and so that morons like FSU# shout "love it or leave it!" to anyone pointing any of this out. Both parties supported TARP, which bailed out financiers that bet on failing mortgages (but no bailouts for the mortgage holders). Both parties have overseen zero or negative interest rates for the last 30 years to artificially prop up asset (real estate and stocks) prices to the detriment of everyone else's savings. Congressional republicans voted what, 100 times to repeal Obamacare, which was a massive windfall to the already obscenely wealthy healthcare industry. What did they do when they had the house the senate and the White House? There is one political party and the only issue it cares about is hooking up the financiers that keep them in office.

Haha u r probably right. I jus like calling a libtard. Not sure why lol Ur post is accurate for the most part.

 

[oozie7]

That may have been the concept, but I don't know how much relevance that concept has to the current way of doing things. The extremely rich have been getting exponentially richer and just about everybody else has getting poorer for about the last 50 years, so I'm not sure about checks and balances there. It's not about republicans vs. democrats, both of whom have overseen the reallocation of wages and wealth to the very rich. Party affiliations are basically artificial constructs to keep the weak minded arguing about abortion, prayer in schools, the pledge of allegiance, etc... while the fraud continues, and so that morons like FSU# shout "love it or leave it!" to anyone pointing any of this out. Both parties supported TARP, which bailed out financiers that bet on failing mortgages (but no bailouts for the mortgage holders). Both parties have overseen zero or negative interest rates for the last 30 years to artificially prop up asset (real estate and stocks) prices to the detriment of everyone else's savings. Congressional republicans voted what, 100 times to repeal Obamacare, which was a massive windfall to the already obscenely wealthy healthcare industry. What did they do when they had the house the senate and the White House? There is one political party and the only issue it cares about is hooking up the financiers that keep them in office.

I had a professor in college who used to say "there's one party in this country...the government party." He was right. They keep us divided on irrelevant issues while they scheme to get more cash in their pockets though.

 

[sadgator]

That may have been the concept, but I don't know how much relevance that concept has to the current way of doing things. The extremely rich have been getting exponentially richer and just about everybody else has getting poorer for about the last 50 years, so I'm not sure about checks and balances there. It's not about republicans vs. democrats, both of whom have overseen the reallocation of wages and wealth to the very rich. Party affiliations are basically artificial constructs to keep the weak minded arguing about abortion, prayer in schools, the pledge of allegiance, etc... while the fraud continues, and so that morons like FSU# shout "love it or leave it!" to anyone pointing any of this out. Both parties supported TARP, which bailed out financiers that bet on failing mortgages (but no bailouts for the mortgage holders). Both parties have overseen zero or negative interest rates for the last 30 years to artificially prop up asset (real estate and stocks) prices to the detriment of everyone else's savings. Congressional republicans voted what, 100 times to repeal Obamacare, which was a massive windfall to the already obscenely wealthy healthcare industry. What did they do when they had the house the senate and the White House? There is one political party and the only issue it cares about is hooking up the financiers that keep them in office.

You should really run for office. The government needs passionate people who want to effectuate positive change and who are as knowledgeable on issues as you appear to be. sadgator would vote for bradleygator.

But don't confuse the people and political parties in charge with the system itself. The system itself is about the freedom of the people to govern themselves. And the system and ideals that the framers set up for us focused on freedom, liberty, and equality and are as good a governing system as the world has even known.

As pissed off as sadgator gets at the powers that be in charge, he would never dream of not standing for the flag/anthem and being proud of a system that allows him to be free.

 

[Dannygator1989]

You should really run for office. The government needs passionate people who want to effectuate positive change and who are as knowledgeable on issues as you appear to be. sadgator would vote for bradleygator.

But don't confuse the people and political parties in charge with the system itself. The system itself is about the freedom of the people to govern themselves. And the system and ideals that the framers set up for us focused on freedom, liberty, and equality and are as good a governing system as the world has even known.

As pissed off as sadgator gets at the powers that be in charge, he would never dream of not standing for the flag/anthem and being proud of a system that allows him to be free.

If you bleeding heart liberals would give my modern version imperialism a chance this would be a much better country.

 

[sadgator]

All Hail Emperor Danny and our new country of Bourbonia!

 

[Dannygator1989]

All Hail Emperor Danny and our new country of Bourbonia!

Example 1: Iraq. Whether or not we believed there were WMDs or that Saddamwas aiding Al-Queda, the liberals bashed it about a war for oil.

In my American Empire, we use those same reasons, and then proudly state that we will be taking their oil and using it for our own purposes. One of which being drastically lower gas prices for the fine Imperial citizenry.

Instead of an obnoxious and misleading news ticker about how man legionaries have died, we update you on the slaughter of the resistance forces.

Example 2: alcohol sales are mandatory on sundays everywhere in the nation.

Example 3: we take over Mexico and much of the Caribbean as a "protective" measure due to their failing and unstable economies, all justified under interpretation from the Montoe Doctrine.

Example 4: we change the national anthem. It's in 3/4 meter. A national anthem should be done in a commanding 4/4 meter like the Russian and German anthems. Something you can and will sing along to spontaneously in a bar swing your flagan of ale back and forth to the tempo.