COVID19 Vaccine: MAYO CLINIC DEBUNKS VACCINE MYTHS

[gator1776]

Just for fun.......

Debunking myths about COVID-19

Let's set the record straight on some circulating myths about COVID-19 vaccines, prevention and treatment.

www.mayoclinichealthsystem.org

By the way the mayo clinic is not working for the government and has nothing to gain by doing this. It’s a public service announcement for their faculty and staff at their hospitals and clinics and was published through their website as well.

 

[BamaFan1137]

I'm not worried about the myths. The as yet unknowns otoh...

 

[gator1776]

I'm not worried about the myths. The as yet unknowns otoh...

99% is known
The research has been solid and it’s vaccine technology, something we been doing work for over 100 years now.

Seriously though, Whether you get it or not it’s a personal decision I just don’t like this information on either side.

 

[BamaFan1137]

99% is known
The research has been solid and it’s vaccine technology, something we been doing work for over 100 years now.

Seriously though, Whether you get it or not it’s a personal decision I just don’t like this information on either side.

How certain are you that 99% is actually known? Serious question...no sarcasm intended.

 

[gator1776]

How certain are you that 99% is actually known? Serious question...no sarcasm intended.

I'm 99% sure on the 99%

If I wasn't, I would not have gotten the vaccine.

But I am NOT 100% on anything with COVID yet. To funky a virus.

 

[BamaFan1137]

I'm 99% sure on the 99%

If I wasn't, I would not have gotten the vaccine.

But I am NOT 100% on anything with COVID yet. To funky a virus.

One of you math nerds....what is 99% of 99%???

 

[Billabong4356]

I'm 99% sure on the 99%

If I wasn't, I would not have gotten the vaccine.

But I am NOT 100% on anything with COVID yet. To funky a virus.

I’m 99% sure this is the first time Humans have been given an M-RNA vaccine. I’m 99% sure all other vaccines served to inoculate the patient with a small dose of the live virus for immunity. Why is it that we have to use an M-RNA vaccine and “trick” our bodies into thinking we have the virus? Must be one hulluva strain of the common cold doc.

 

[gator1776]

I’m 99% sure this is the first time Humans have been given an M-RNA vaccine. I’m 99% sure all other vaccines served to inoculate the patient with a small dose of the live virus for immunity. Why is it that we have to use an M-RNA vaccine and “trick” our bodies into thinking we have the virus? Must be one hulluva strain of the common cold doc.

I’m 100% sure you’re wrong. Only certain vaccines are live vaccines, several of the vaccines are killed virus vaccines, some of the vaccines are protein coat vaccines

This is however a messenger RNA Vaccine.
They’ve been experimenting with this for years and then research in the last year was very solid so I felt safe taking it. But you guys do what you want personal choice.

 

[NavigatorII]

I’m 100% sure you’re wrong. Only certain vaccines are live vaccines, several of the vaccines are killed virus vaccines, some of the vaccines are protein coat vaccines

This is however a messenger RNA Vaccine.
They’ve been experimenting with this for years and then research in the last year was very solid so I felt safe taking it. But you guys do what you want personal choice.

Regardless of how you or any of us feel about the safety of the new covid vaccines, something should really piss us all off is this. A potential solution this complicated was brought maarket in less than 9 months. Naysayers said it would take years. Does it not piss you off that the FDA keeps potential miracle drugs off the market for years and years, making the cost of the R&D and regulatory process so expensive that drug prices are astronomical?

It makes me livid, our government sucks balls regarding this, MORE GOVERNMENT is a bad idea.

 

[gator1776]

Regardless of how you or any of us feel about the safety of the new covid vaccines, something should really piss us all off is this. A potential solution this complicated was brought maarket in less than 9 months. Naysayers said it would take years. Does it not piss you off that the FDA keeps potential miracle drugs off the market for years and years, making the cost of the R&D and regulatory process so expensive that drug prices are astronomical?

It makes me livid, our government sucks balls regarding this, MORE GOVERNMENT is a bad idea.

Yeah it pisses me off. But they’ve also saved us from a few bad medicines to. But in general I think there’s too much government bureaucracy and everything nowadays.

 

[Billabong4356]

Yeah it pisses me off. But they’ve also saved us from a few bad medicines to. But in general I think there’s too much government bureaucracy and everything nowadays.

Don’t worry 1776, I’m sure Xiden will decrease red tape in all aspects of sham presidency. Oh wait. He loves bureaucracy. Come on, man!

 

[gator1776]

Don’t worry 1776, I’m sure Xiden will decrease red tape in all aspects of sham presidency. Oh wait. He loves bureaucracy. Come on, man!

Hahaha

 

[Billabong4356]

Hahaha

But in all seriousness 1776, I don’t see why for this we have to use a whole new vaccination concept for a virus that’s fatality rate is below 1% for people under 70. Just seems odd to me is all.

 

[gator1776]

But in all seriousness 1776, I don’t see why for this we have to use a whole new vaccination concept for a virus that’s fatality rate is below 1% for people under 70. Just seems odd to me is all.

My understanding is they approach this problem from let’s find a vaccine by any means necessary to get one out as quickly as safely possible. And the messenger RNA vaccines ended up being quicker and easier to develop than live or killed virus vaccine, although I believe there’s one of those as well.

And you have to understand something about coronavirus. Yes the mortality rate for people Below 70 is 1% or less, but it’s a highly infectious virus, like most cold viruses but even more so, so more people are getting infected. So 1% of 1000 it’s not that staggering a number But 1% of 100 million becomes a staggering staggering number.

I have personally witnessed the death 2 perfectly healthy people under the age of 30 due to coronavirus. I’ve seen the death of Several people under the age of 70, some of whom were relatively healthy for they got coronavirus.

Point being, because it’s so highly infectious and so many people get get it, by law of averages we’re still losing tens of thousands of people, thousands of whom are under the age of 70 and functional members of society.

That’s why this vaccine is a great thing and that’s why I recommend it particularly for at risk people, healthcare workers, and first responders, but sincerely I recommend it for everybody when it is available to everybody. Just because of the highly infectious nature of this disease.

In some ways I do accept the philosophy that it’s a pandemic and people are going to die, but why let people die if you don’t have to? And 1% of 2 to 3,000,000,000 people, and that’s like with the eventual number of people that will be infected by this virus at some point, is an astronomical number And simply unacceptable if you can’t be prevented Buy a relatively safe and inexpensive vaccine.

The anthropologist and historian in me knows these deaths are inevitable, but the physician in me knows they should be prevented if possible. This is why I’ve always been an advocate for opening up society except in extreme circumstances and vaccinating everybody when possible.


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[fatman76]

Just for fun.......

Debunking myths about COVID-19

Let's set the record straight on some circulating myths about COVID-19 vaccines, prevention and treatment.

www.mayoclinichealthsystem.org

By the way the mayo clinic is not working for the government and has nothing to gain by doing this. It’s a public service announcement for their faculty and staff at their hospitals and clinics and was published through their website as well.

Got anything from the last two months, you know, like since we've been putting this in 100k arms a week?

Early December is like 7 months ago, we're living in dog years these days.

 

[gator1776]

Got anything from the last two months, you know, like since we've been putting this in 100k arms a week?

Early December is like 7 months ago, we're living in dog years these days.

Would it make any difference in y’alls opinion if I posted something from last week? Asking for a friend

 

[BCSpell]

1776,
What are you hearing about J&J 1 shot vaccine?

 

[fatman76]

Just for fun.......

Debunking myths about COVID-19

Let's set the record straight on some circulating myths about COVID-19 vaccines, prevention and treatment.

www.mayoclinichealthsystem.org

By the way the mayo clinic is not working for the government and has nothing to gain by doing this. It’s a public service announcement for their faculty and staff at their hospitals and clinics and was published through their website as well.

Been meaning to ask your opinion...stance on wearing a mask after you're vaccinated?

 

[gator1776]

Been meaning to ask your opinion...stance on wearing a mask after you're vaccinated?

I may not be the best doctor to ask because I’ve never really felt strongly about wearing mask anyway. But, unless we vaccinate 70 to 80% of the nation then wearing mask theoretically would still be necessary. I have a different philosophy, I have an anthropology philosophy of just left the damn thing happen And get it over with, not terribly popular times, but that’s the best answer I can give you.

 

[SwampMaster]

I may not be the best doctor to ask because I’ve never really felt strongly about wearing mask anyway. But, unless we vaccinate 70 to 80% of the nation then wearing mask theoretically would still be necessary. I have a different philosophy, I have an anthropology philosophy of just left the damn thing happen And get it over with, not terribly popular times, but that’s the best answer I can give you.

What about people that have already had it. Do you think they need to be vaccinated?

 

[gator1776]

What about people that have already had it. Do you think they need to be vaccinated?

If you work around Covid patients, or are in a high-risk group, or just want to have better protection then yes you should get the vaccine. Nobody knows for sure but they think post infection immunity probably last somewhere between 3 to 6 months.

That said, if you wanted to wait a few months that would be reasonable to. Especially if you’re not in a high-risk group, other people need the vaccine first.

 

[fatman76]

I may not be the best doctor to ask because I’ve never really felt strongly about wearing mask anyway. But, unless we vaccinate 70 to 80% of the nation then wearing mask theoretically would still be necessary. I have a different philosophy, I have an anthropology philosophy of just left the damn thing happen And get it over with, not terribly popular times, but that’s the best answer I can give you.

My question was more for the vaccinated...once you know you have a window of immunity is the mask still necessary?

And I agree on the let the thing happen concept. Our immune systems are amazing, and are the only reason we've been on this earth and expanding our population for as long as we have. It adapts and responds, and it will do so against this virus (even if it was a product of gain of function research).

It will be awful getting there but eventually - unless we all want to get 2-4 rounds of vaccine every year - it's the only way.

 

[gator1776]

My question was more for the vaccinated...once you know you have a window of immunity is the mask still necessary?

And I agree on the let the thing happen concept. Our immune systems are amazing, and are the only reason we've been on this earth and expanding our population for as long as we have. It adapts and responds, and it will do so against this virus (even if it was a product of gain of function research).

It will be awful getting there but eventually - unless we all want to get 2-4 rounds of vaccine every year - it's the only way.

My answer was for that question. Once you’re vaccinated you’re still supposed to wear the mask according to the current mandates. The theory behind it is until there’s a herd immunity you could still be the 5% that doesn’t get immunity from the vaccine catch the infection and spread it to others. I don’t say I necessarily agree with this but that is the talking points right now.

 

[dingyibvs]

My question was more for the vaccinated...once you know you have a window of immunity is the mask still necessary?

And I agree on the let the thing happen concept. Our immune systems are amazing, and are the only reason we've been on this earth and expanding our population for as long as we have. It adapts and responds, and it will do so against this virus (even if it was a product of gain of function research).

It will be awful getting there but eventually - unless we all want to get 2-4 rounds of vaccine every year - it's the only way.

The recommendation is still to wear it, as you can probably still catch it and spread it asymptomatically.

As for our immune system, it's certainly an incredible system, but before modern medicine many, many people died or suffered significant morbidities from what are now easily treatable infections.

 

[gator1776]

The recommendation is still to wear it, as you can probably still catch it and spread it asymptomatically.

As for our immune system, it's certainly an incredible system, but before modern medicine many, many people died or suffered significant morbidities from what are now easily treatable infections.

I think that’s part of the problem. Nobody alive today remembers a time before vaccines and anabiotic’s when two out of every four kids never lived to adulthood.

 

[fatman76]

I think that’s part of the problem. Nobody alive today remembers a time before vaccines and anabiotic’s when two out of every four kids never lived to adulthood.

There's no doubt that population growth and life expectancy have both benefitted dramatically from modern medicine, but those are extremely recent developments on the bigger scale.

We were still advancing and moving forward as a species before any of those developments happened. And it doesn't change the fact that our immune systems, when working properly, are amazing fighting machines.

 

[gator1776]

There's no doubt that population growth and life expectancy have both benefitted dramatically from modern medicine, but those are extremely recent developments on the bigger scale.

We were still advancing and moving forward as a species before any of those developments happened. And it doesn't change the fact that our immune systems, when working properly, are amazing fighting machines.

I don’t think anybody’s arguing that. But the fact remains before vaccines and anabiotic‘s two out of every four kids died in their childhood and life expectancy was on the magnitude of 45 to 50 years just 150 years ago. That’s almost doubled since then and that is unheard of for a species. Whether it’s good or bad or not for the species remains to be seen.

 

[fatman76]

I don’t think anybody’s arguing that. But the fact remains before vaccines and anabiotic‘s two out of every four kids died in their childhood and life expectancy was on the magnitude of 45 to 50 years just 150 years ago. That’s almost doubled since then and that is unheard of for a species. Whether it’s good or bad or not for the species remains to be seen.

It's probably bad on the whole, but we certainly get more time with loved ones b/c of it. But older, sick people put a strain on the medical community and that's a fairly new problem.

Again, I'm not against vaccines. I vaxxed my kids for everything, sometimes I even take a flu shot. I get it. Horrible diseases have been wiped out with the help of vaccines.

But Covid wouldn't end us without one. We'd beat it. We're going to have to even with a vaccine, and I predict it'll be just a normal part of our flu season moving forward (maybe in 2-3 years). It could be that once it's no longer a novel coronavirus we'll have enough genetic markers for our immune system to catch it early and reduce the number of massive inflammatory responses we're seeing now. Or it could mutate weaker and just not be as deadly. But it won't be like this forever, and the human immune system will probably play a bigger role than the vaccine.

 

[gator1776]

It's probably bad on the whole, but we certainly get more time with loved ones b/c of it. But older, sick people put a strain on the medical community and that's a fairly new problem.

Again, I'm not against vaccines. I vaxxed my kids for everything, sometimes I even take a flu shot. I get it. Horrible diseases have been wiped out with the help of vaccines.

But Covid wouldn't end us without one. We'd beat it. We're going to have to even with a vaccine, and I predict it'll be just a normal part of our flu season moving forward (maybe in 2-3 years). It could be that once it's no longer a novel coronavirus we'll have enough genetic markers for our immune system to catch it early and reduce the number of massive inflammatory responses we're seeing now. Or it could mutate weaker and just not be as deadly. But it won't be like this forever, and the human immune system will probably play a bigger role than the vaccine.

No pandemic will ever come around the windows with or without a vaccine. I am 100% sure of that. There are lots of reasons why am 100% sure but I guarantee you there’s no pandemic ever that within human species. I guess you should never say never but it’s incredibly unlikely for lots of reasons.

 

[martycat1]

Thanks for the info like alway gator1776. So when i take ranae home with me, how long do I get to keep her?

 

[gator1776]

Thanks for the info like alway gator1776. So when i take ranae home with me, how long do I get to keep her?

From what I hear 12 to 14 seconds is more than enough time for you.

 

[Billabong4356]

No pandemic will ever come around the windows with or without a vaccine. I am 100% sure of that. There are lots of reasons why am 100% sure but I guarantee you there’s no pandemic ever that within human species. I guess you should never say never but it’s incredibly unlikely for lots of reasons.

Was there ever a vax for Spanish flu? Or did we eventually just achieve herd immunity and began to isolate patients and pay more attention to hygiene? I thought we got past it off our resolve and ingenuity. And I know. Lots of deaths. But aspirin poisoning and the fact we were in the midst of The Great War played a massive role in those death numbers also.

 

[gator1776]

Was there ever a vax for Spanish flu? Or did we eventually just achieve herd immunity and began to isolate patients and pay more attention to hygiene? I thought we got past it off our resolve and ingenuity. And I know. Lots of deaths. But aspirin poisoning and the fact we were in the midst of The Great War played a massive role in those death numbers also.

I’m not sure what your point is. Do you want nobody to use the vaccine so more people die then have to?

 

[Billabong4356]

I’m not sure what your point is. Do you want nobody to use the vaccine so more people die then have to?

If people want I feel they have that right. If I chose not to and still wish to be a part of society. Aren’t I the one at risk? If you believe in the vax and you’ve taken and you’re around me who has the virus. You should be safe right?
Also, do you not think that this will like the flu going forward with new strains each year

 

[gator1776]

If people want I feel they have that right. If I chose not to and still wish to be a part of society. Aren’t I the one at risk? If you believe in the vax and you’ve taken and you’re around me who has the virus. You should be safe right?
Also, do you not think that this will like the flu going forward with new strains each year

Where have I said anything contrary to what you just said? If you can find it then I’ll respond to your somewhat arrogant prodding clumsy attacks.

i’ve written several reports on this and put some on here that most have seen and read. Go find those threads if you want the answer to your other question.

So many Internet experts on COVID19, it’s amazing.

Good luck, good night

 

[theswamp15]

No way I’m getting the vaccine, I don’t want the government to be able to track me with the chip they put in it. If Trump were still President I would take it, but until Trump takes it and tells me it’s ok I ain’t doing it

 

[gator1776]

No way I’m getting the vaccine, I don’t want the government to be able to track me with the chip they put in it. If Trump were still President I would take it, but until Trump takes it and tells me it’s ok I ain’t doing it

Lol

 

[Billabong4356]

Where have I said anything contrary to what you just said? If you can find it then I’ll respond to your somewhat arrogant prodding clumsy attacks.

i’ve written several reports on this and put some on here that most have seen and read. Go find those threads if you want the answer to your other question.

So many Internet experts on COVID19, it’s amazing.

Good luck, good night

Relax doc. Not trying to stir you up. Just trying to get confirmation on my beliefs from a medical professional is all. If 90% of the population is vaxed against covid I was just trying to confirm that if I wasn’t I’d be in the danger group while the rest should be safe. Seems like it should be a free human’s choice to decide. If I decide against it and it kills me then it’s on me. I just wanted to confirm that by doing so I’m the one taking the risk and not society.
Make grab a rub and a tug after work this week amigo. I know you’ve got a stressful job.

 

[gator1776]

Relax doc. Not trying to stir you up. Just trying to get confirmation on my beliefs from a medical professional is all. If 90% of the population is vaxed against covid I was just trying to confirm that if I wasn’t I’d be in the danger group while the rest should be safe. Seems like it should be a free human’s choice to decide. If I decide against it and it kills me then it’s on me. I just wanted to confirm that by doing so I’m the one taking the risk and not society.
Make grab a rub and a tug after work this week amigo. I know you’ve got a stressful job.

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[BillCutting4585]

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