COVID Denier and Anti-Vaxxer Dies of COVID

[park_mike]

Thank you. The point wasn't to "guilt" you into acquiescence, however. It was over 10 years ago and while I still miss her daily, it's no longer an open wound.

I thanked God for allowing her to avoid the horrible things that her mind and body were going through or that she was about to face.

OTOH, she was my sister and she was very much like a second mother to me. She was also a single parent and an awesome mother to her actual son.

Her timely passing was a gift from God. Her death was absolutely tragic.

I don't know how else to put it but I'm certain that I'm not the first human to face that dichotomy.

I too am sorry for your loss.

You made part of my point very well. Just because a passing may be the better of two evils between death and suffering does not mean it is not tragic regardless. The fact that I believe in Jesus Christ and that I will finally see Him face to face in Heaven and on the new earth where there will be no more suffering or loss does not mean my death would not have other ramifications which would be tragic. I would be in a better place, but my wife would be left without a provider, my kids without a father...and so on. Death can be both a blessing to the one suffering and tragic to them and their loved ones.

 

[gator1776]

Thank you. The point wasn't to "guilt" you into acquiescence, however. It was over 10 years ago and while I still miss her daily, it's no longer an open wound.

I thanked God for allowing her to avoid the horrible things that her mind and body were going through or that she was about to face.

OTOH, she was my sister and she was very much like a second mother to me. She was also a single parent and an awesome mother to her actual son.

Her timely passing was a gift from God. Her death was absolutely tragic.

I don't know how else to put it but I'm certain that I'm not the first human to face that dichotomy.

You read an awful lot into a simple condolences response my friend.

I felt zero guilt typing that, nor was I acquiescing the point. I was just sincerely sorry for your loss. That does not mean I agree with you that all loss of life is tragic. I do not agree with you at all. I do not view all loss of life as tragic for the numerous reasons I have posted before. Remorse and empathy are not synonymous with tragedy.

Certainly the circumstances around the loss of life can be very tragic at times. Sudden, accidental, young.......................

Death can be very sad and very uplifting and freeing at the same time. It requires those of us that love that person to go through a grieving process that often take 7 steps and more than a few years. Having gone through it myself with several family members through the years, I can certainly empathize and feel bad for what was a very sad loss for you. And I do.

Still does not make all death tragic. On that point I do not agree with you are @park_mike
As someone that sees death and dying on average 2-3 times a week I can assure you both that several of us do not view death as "tragic" every time, and, therefore, by definition, all death cannot be tragic if there are many of us out here that do not view certain deaths as tragic. Just a thought.

 

[BamaFan1137]

You read an awful lot into a simple condolences response my friend.

Guilty as charged. I was projecting my humanity onto you. My mistake.

 

[gator1776]

Guilty as charged. I was projecting my humanity onto you. My mistake.

Well you should know better than that 🤣🤣🤣

 

[instaGATOR]

Help me out here. Please explain this to me, without your usual histrionics

1. You claim to worship capitalism but can’t stand Big Pharma making money
2. You don’t trust Big Pharma, but hate any government regulation
3. You don’t believe anything from the “MSM“ but constantly post things from questionable or non reputable sources.
4. You dont believe in scientific experts that have risen to the top of their profession, but seem to latch onto junk science.

I sense a trend but I have a hard time figuring out people like you. You aren’t a troll like Ghost, you honestly think this way.. please help me understand. I’m honestly curious.

That's the biggest load of crap that you've ever posted to me, and I won't spend my time on it.

But just to show everyone what I'm talking about, I will address #1 for you.
You have proven many times to be unable to discern the differences between points on your own.

Capitalism - an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.
(what this country was founded on, and how America became the best place in the world)

Predatory Capitalism - is a vicious, relentless enemy of peoples, species, ecosystems, and all animate and inanimate things, that must be dismantled and terminated before it eradicates all prospects...
(The term "robber baron" began to be used in the early 1870s to describe a class of extremely wealthy businessmen who used ruthless and unethical business tactics to dominate vital industries. In an era with virtually no regulation of business, industries such as railroads, steel, and petroleum became monopolies.) -- (Today's Big Pharm and others)

You can try to get someone else to explain the rest to you, but I doubt that you really want answers that conflict with your own Evil/BS agendas....

 

[gator1776]

@instaGATOR Don’t forget when the crap hit the fan in your life was in danger just like all the other people you immediately turn to the doctors to save your life. And they did. And now you criticize them again.

 

[instaGATOR]

@instaGATOR Don’t forget when the crap hit the fan in your life was in danger just like all the other people you immediately turn to the doctors to save your life. And they did. And now you criticize them again.

Yet another example of those that have their own Evil/BS/$$$ reasons for their own stupidity.

All capitalism is not bad, just like all doctors are not bad. I can tell the difference, while you don't want to recognize that difference because,,,, 1776 QUACK 😷

 

[BSC911]

That's the biggest load of crap that you've ever posted to me, and I won't spend my time on it.

But just to show everyone what I'm talking about, I will address #1 for you.
You have proven many times to be unable to discern the differences between points on your own.

Capitalism - an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.
(what this country was founded on, and how America became the best place in the world)

Predatory Capitalism - is a vicious, relentless enemy of peoples, species, ecosystems, and all animate and inanimate things, that must be dismantled and terminated before it eradicates all prospects...
(The term "robber baron" began to be used in the early 1870s to describe a class of extremely wealthy businessmen who used ruthless and unethical business tactics to dominate vital industries. In an era with virtually no regulation of business, industries such as railroads, steel, and petroleum became monopolies.) -- (Today's Big Pharm and others)

You can try to get someone else to explain the rest to you, but I doubt that you really want answers that conflict with your own Evil/BS agendas....

How do you determine the difference?
is Apple predatory because they have high margins?
How do you stop companies from becoming Predatory? Government regulatiion?
what happens when you “dismantle and terminate” Big Pharma. Who spends the R&D to develop vaccines and new medications? The government? “Nice” companies?

And yes, I’m trying to get you to explain your thinking rather than just responding with your typical “Dimwits” lines.

 

[BSC911]

Guilty as charged. I was projecting my humanity onto you. My mistake.

I think you are just misusing the term tragic.

Tragic is commonly defined as “causing or characterized by extreme distress or sorrow.”

163,000 people die every day. I doubt you feel “extreme distress or sorrow” for each one.

 

[BSC911]

Yet another example of those that have their own Evil/BS/$$$ reasons for their own stupidity.

All capitalism is not bad, just like all doctors are not bad. I can tell the difference, while you don't want to recognize that difference because,,,, 1776 QUACK 😷

He saves lives. What do you do to help your fellow man?

You seem to one of those “every man for himself” types.

 

[BamaFan1137]

I think you are just misusing the term tragic.

Tragic is commonly defined as “causing or characterized by extreme distress or sorrow.”

163,000 people die every day. I doubt you feel “extreme distress or sorrow” for each one.

You doubt that I feel “extreme distress or sorrow” for 163,000 dead people each day? Holy crap man...solid argument.

😂

 

[gator1776]

How do you determine the difference?
is Apple predatory because they have high margins?
How do you stop companies from becoming Predatory? Government regulatiion?
what happens when you “dismantle and terminate” Big Pharma. Who spends the R&D to develop vaccines and new medications? The government? “Nice” companies?

And yes, I’m trying to get you to explain your thinking rather than just responding with your typical “Dimwits” lines.

He’s a capitalist except but he’s a socialist and then his socialist except when he’s a capitalist.
Whatever suits him at the moment.

 

[gator1776]

You doubt that I feel “extreme distress or sorrow” for 163,000 dead people each day? Holy crap man...solid argument.

😂

Why would you, that’s the normal daily death toll for the planet. There are more births every day than deaths. Dines just a part of life. You don’t know any of those people most of them are in their 80s and 90s they lived a long good life for the most part why would you consider that tragic and not just going on the greater glory?

 

[BSC911]

You doubt that I feel “extreme distress or sorrow” for 163,000 dead people each day? Holy crap man...solid argument.

😂

Yes, I really doubt that. Otherwise you’d really need to seek psychiatric help for your constant state of extreme distress and sorrow. You may feel empathy, but I doubt it ruins your day, every day.

You are greatly exaggerating your feelings, and don’t seem to understand what the word means.

 

[BSC911]

Betty White died today at 99.

How tragic. Too young.

 

[gator1776]

Betty White died today at 99.

How tragic. Too young.

I really shouldn’t do this but…….

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

[instaGATOR]

BS-C911 💩

1776 QUACK 😷

GhostofBRAINLESS 😶

Glad that the Parking Lot has a wall large enough to hold all three of these Idiots.... 🤗

 

[BamaFan1137]

Why would you, that’s the normal daily death toll for the planet. There are more births every day than deaths. Dines just a part of life. You don’t know any of those people most of them are in their 80s and 90s they lived a long good life for the most part why would you consider that tragic and not just going on the greater glory?

I'm just physically incapable I suppose. Physical death is tragic. Everlasting life is glorious.

As a non-cyborg I have human emotions. And get this, I'm a conservative.

 

[BamaFan1137]

Yes, I really doubt that. Otherwise you’d really need to seek psychiatric help for your constant state of extreme distress and sorrow. You may feel empathy, but I doubt it ruins your day, every day.

You are greatly exaggerating your feelings, and don’t seem to understand what the word means.

Your sarcasm meter is more ridiculous than you are.

When you've stood in my shoes, maybe then you'd be more qualified to tell me how I do, or should, feel. Until then, just stfu already.

 

[BamaFan1137]

I really shouldn’t do this but…….

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

You really shouldn't feed the animals.

 

[instaGATOR]

He saves lives. What do you do to help your fellow man?

You seem to one of those “every man for himself” types.

In the U.S. Military, I was part of taking lives, and I have to live with that 'service to my country and fellow citizens.'

Later as a civilian, I've personally saved lives by dragging the drowning out of the water, or given the already drowned but still alive CPR, and then helping to put them in a rescue unit. Summer job as a Red Cross Certified Life Saver (lifeguard).

I also probably saved a few useless 'every man for himself' lives like yours, by caging a few chit eating dog....

 

[BSC911]

In the U.S. Military, I was part of taking lives, and I have to live with that 'service to my country and fellow citizens.'

Later as a civilian, I've personally saved lives by dragging the drowning out of the water, or given the already drowned but still alive CPR, and then helping to put them in a rescue unit. Summer job as a Red Cross Certified Life Saver (lifeguard).

I also probably saved a few useless 'every man for himself' lives like yours, by caging a few chit eating dog....

You’re a dog catcher?

 

[gator1776]

I'm just physically incapable I suppose. Physical death is tragic. Everlasting life is glorious.

As a non-cyborg I have human emotions. And get this, I'm a conservative.

You know your empathy and compassion does your credit. I have zero problem with how you view the world. It would be a better place of more people view the world like you do. I have definitely developed a level of professional disattachment That probably allows me to see some of these deaths as not tragedies, but this is one of those discussions that doesn’t have a right or wrong just an opinion.

 

[park_mike]

You know your empathy and compassion does your credit. I have zero problem with how you view the world. It would be a better place of more people view the world like you do. I have definitely developed a level of professional disattachment That probably allows me to see some of these deaths as not tragedies, but this is one of those discussions that doesn’t have a right or wrong just an opinion.

I think what we are trying to convey is that, taking circumstances such as age, infirmity, and prior actions out of the equation, death is tragic as it ends all possibility of that person having any more experiences here on earth or passing on their knowledge to a future generation. Therefore, all death is tragic regardless of the circumstances as it ends a life's future possibilities. The circumstances which in some people's minds make death preferable to life, such as infirmity at old age, sickness, immoral behavior...etc, are tragic in and of themselves since they make death the lesser evil. Maybe this will shed light on my perspective at least as I don't want to speak for others.

 

[Gator Fever]

Not sure if any lefties here would admit it but some see the broken down elderly as burdens on society and that is why you will see some doctors at hospitals literally shaming families to remove loved ones from feeding tubes etc. Having said that I would rather a loved one was allowed to pass if they are that bad off but would never try and shame a family over a personal decision on that. Couldn't believe what I heard in the room next to my mother's at the hospital some years back. I think sometimes that some wouldn't mind a Logan's Run setup if you did make 80.

 

[gator1776]

I think what we are trying to convey is that, taking circumstances such as age, infirmity, and prior actions out of the equation, death is tragic as it ends all possibility of that person having any more experiences here on earth or passing on their knowledge to a future generation. Therefore, all death is tragic regardless of the circumstances as it ends a life's future possibilities. The circumstances which in some people's minds make death preferable to life, such as infirmity at old age, sickness, immoral behavior...etc, are tragic in and of themselves since they make death the lesser evil. Maybe this will shed light on my perspective at least as I don't want to speak for others.

But you do realize that’s just your opinion right? Just because you say it over and over again doesn’t make it so. Several of us do not view certain types of death as tragic. Some of us even see it as a new beginning.

 

[park_mike]

But you do realize that’s just your opinion right? Just because you say it over and over again doesn’t make it so. Several of us do not view certain types of death as tragic. Some of us even see it as a new beginning.

Sure. At the end of the day, that is all anyone has. What is tragic to me may not be to you. Death may be a blessing in certain situations but not because it is death, but because of the other circumstances surrounding it. And I do believe in life after death and a better life thereafter.

And you can have your opinions, despite them being wrong 🤣

 

[BamaFan1137]

You know your empathy and compassion does your credit. I have zero problem with how you view the world. It would be a better place of more people view the world like you do. I have definitely developed a level of professional disattachment That probably allows me to see some of these deaths as not tragedies, but this is one of those discussions that doesn’t have a right or wrong just an opinion.

It's a battle in my profession as well. I've promised my wife, and myself for that matter, that I won't allow it to harden or callous me.

I can compartmentalize, do what needs to be done, and then deal as required. So far it's working. If it ever doesn't, I'm out. That's just my personal choice but I think it helps me treat others with dignity and I'm hoping that it will help keep me out of trouble professionally and personally.

 

[BamaFan1137]

I think what we are trying to convey is that, taking circumstances such as age, infirmity, and prior actions out of the equation, death is tragic as it ends all possibility of that person having any more experiences here on earth or passing on their knowledge to a future generation. Therefore, all death is tragic regardless of the circumstances as it ends a life's future possibilities. The circumstances which in some people's minds make death preferable to life, such as infirmity at old age, sickness, immoral behavior...etc, are tragic in and of themselves since they make death the lesser evil. Maybe this will shed light on my perspective at least as I don't want to speak for others.

My mother is in late stage Alzheimer's. In fact she's sitting next to me now.

In some ways her passing will be a blessing. Her care is difficult for my father...but she is the love of his life and he loves caring for her. And despite her almost total mental decline, she's still my mother and my father's wife. We find joy in caring for her and loving her and the fleeting moments where she smiles at us with some tiny recognition of our love for her.

Her final day is fast approaching and I will be joyful for her transition and saddened because we will no longer be able to hold her hand and tell her that we love her.

 

[gator1776]

My mother is in late stage Alzheimer's. In fact she's sitting next to me now.

In some ways her passing will be a blessing. Her care is difficult for my father...but she is the love of his life and he loves caring for her. And despite her almost total mental decline, she's still my mother and my father's wife. We find joy in caring for her and loving her and the fleeting moments where she smiles at us with some tiny recognition of our love for her.

Her final day is fast approaching and I will be joyful for her transition and saddened because we will no longer be able to hold her hand and tell her that we love her.

God bless my friend. I know that’s hard.

 

[goldmom]

My mother is in late stage Alzheimer's. In fact she's sitting next to me now.

In some ways her passing will be a blessing. Her care is difficult for my father...but she is the love of his life and he loves caring for her. And despite her almost total mental decline, she's still my mother and my father's wife. We find joy in caring for her and loving her and the fleeting moments where she smiles at us with some tiny recognition of our love for her.

Her final day is fast approaching and I will be joyful for her transition and saddened because we will no longer be able to hold her hand and tell her that we love her.

My sincerest sympathies...my Mom suffered mental decline because she had a series of small strokes that resulted in a cumulative deteriorating effect on her mental state. I knew her end was quickly approaching when my Daughter (her granddaughter) and I visited her and she said how nice it was of us to visit her and asked if the two of us knew each other. She passed peacefully two days later in her sleep. Seeing that, it's what all of us might hope for at our end time too. She knows you're there for her. Stay strong.

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

My mother is in late stage Alzheimer's. Her care is difficult for my father...but she is the love of his life and he loves caring for her.

My grandmother had Alzheimers.

My mom passed from complications of cancer treatment. She also had COPD and my dad waited on her hand and foot in her final years. When she passed he was "lost" for close to 2 years.

When you have good parents its a blessing from God.

God bless you and feel free to reach out.

 

[BamaFan1137]

My grandmother had Alzheimers.

My mom passed from complications of cancer treatment. She also had COPD and my dad waited on her hand and foot in her final years. When she passed he was "lost" for close to 2 years.

When you have good parents its a blessing from God.

God bless you and feel free to reach out.

Thanks DC. A few minutes ago she woke up and looked at me and belly laughed. I have no idea what was so funny...but I'm damn glad that it was.