Anyone that is still advocating for lockdown at this point is admitting that they are fine with more Americans dying, if it might make Trump look bad.
CDC confirms number of suicides now 'far greater' than number of hoax flu deaths
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Anyone that is still advocating for lockdown at this point is admitting that they are fine with more Americans dying, if it might make Trump look bad.
No Ghost that is NOT what they are admitting. That is your narrative of it. According to that link , there were 10 more ten suicides than expected . Many people have concerns over the , faculty, staff, bus drivers etc, that might cause spread to them and student's families that could result far greater fatalities than 10. Fla. for ex. right now is very close to max. hospital capacity for covid patients,
That wasn't a link, that was a video. He clearly said exactly that on the video that's why I posted it so everyone could hear it for themselves.
Your quote: "Anyone that is still advocating for lockdown at this point is admitting that they are fine with more Americans dying, if it might make Trump look bad."
That was not stated in the video. That is your narrative and as usual you are incorrect in your statement as I explained. Why lie and say the video said that when it was you?
I know it wasn't stated in the video. It was stated by me. I never claimed it was stated in the video and you know that, you are attempting to deflect from data from the CDC that shows that suicides are 'far greater' than deaths from hoax flu. A point I have made here repeatedly. Sheep ignored every time.
Now that the CDC has confirmed for you that the number of suicides is 'far greater' than the number of hoax flu deaths, do you still support the lockdown and even more suicides?
Yes or no?
Any decision on a lockdown had certainly better take much more into consideration than only a nebulus # of suicides that have not yet happened. There are numerous other considerations that weigh in. Do you believe that only considering teen age student suicide in the decision is correct?
Number of suicides is 'far greater' than number of hoax flu deaths. Drug overdose deaths has also surpassed hoax flu deaths.
That's what he says on the video. He doesn't say anything about teen suicides.
I believe when we lockdown the country, and as a result see suicides surpass hoax flu deaths, it's time to end the lockdown.
But my main motivation is saving lives, not trying to make Trump look bad.
Good God man it's the very start of your own post # 1 "CDC re- school closures, particularly high schools .... " The entire video was on opening school. OMG
You go on and believe that suicides surpass the 150,000 deaths from Covid. The average suicide s in US is less than 50,000 for 12 mos.
Look at Ghost wanting to utilize the CDC when it fits HIS narrative, but masks, HCQ, etc.....they are ignorant, lying. Ghost dancin' and spinnin'
Again, it's not my fault you are ignorant because you get your information from shit sources.
I was linking to articles from TWO MONTHS AGO where California doctors were already reporting that in some areas of the state, suicides of ALL ages had already passed hoax flu deaths.
This is nothing new, but you have no idea because your lefty sources aren't telling you this.
Don't worry, Snopes or Politifact will be out with a 'fact check' soon that will tell you that this isn't correct.
Besides don't act like you care, we all know that keeping the lockdown in place to make Trump look bad is top priority for you and the dems.
How sad that Ghost is reduced to shouting that the very source he reference ( CDC) is a shit source. LOL Right wing alternate facts are often refuted by not only fact checking org., but most major networks and print sources. Since all of these refute Ghost's FB, Twitter crap constantly. Now Ghost makes up links that are not in the thread.
There's your quote saying "CDC data shows......" Ghost is wrong again. CDC has 3 yr. avg. suicides of all ages at less than 50k per yr. and those were the highest three ever.
Now Ghost tries to move goal posts to "some area of Calif." Ghost dancin' and spinnin' once again.
Not nearly as sad as anyone justifying extending a lockdown even though they know it will lead to more deaths from suicide and drug overdoses (per the CDC) than it will from hoax flu.
That's evil. Orange Man Bad is not worth that. Amazing you have to be told that.
The left needs more body bags associated with Covid-19. They would sacrifice their children if it meant getting rid of Trump. Any kind of potential vaccine or any medicine that could potentially bring us back to a normal life is bad for them.
Does Ghost have such a narrow range or depth of understanding that he can't see that critical thinking people know that the partial lockdowns are designed to protect the lives of the entire 328.2 million including the less than 50K that are suicidal. Perhaps Ghost can produce the # of excess deaths from suicide the CDC predicts, since less than 50k is all suicides for an entire year.
Amazing how fast the dems decided that 50k deaths is no biggie, isn't it?
48k suicides so far this year, another 1.4M attempted - https://chapterland.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/13/2017/11/US_FactsFigures_Flyer.pdf
All worth it to the dems, cause Orange Man Bad.
They are happy to put the nation through hell, kill thousands of innocent people...and they are too stupid to see this is all helping Trump get re-elected.
Complete morons.
Suicides from 2000-2019 are absolutely meaningless to 2020.
So how many suicides are acceptable to you in order to keep the lockdown going and hurt Trump's re-election chances?
Zero is my number. What's yours?
So how many suicides are acceptable to you in order to keep the lockdown going and hurt Trump's re-election chances?
Zero is my number. What's yours?
So Ghost puts out a link and misreps the numbers, but now because the number of excess suicide deaths will not be zero, all the partial lock downs must end. We are at 150,000 deaths and 1231 yesterday. New cases and hospitalizations are up or even in many states. Covid might increase suicides some but since the current daily deaths from covid are currently 10 time the number for ALL suicides/day by any reason, a critical thinker would try to save the greater number of lives.
Yes he would. Because the critical thinker puts saving lives ahead of hurting Trump.
So you think it was the lockdown that caused all those 150,000 deaths? Are you day drinking?
I think the number of actual deaths is half or so of what's reported.
IOW, in line with the seasonal flu.
I think suicides are up as are drug overdoses. Because the CDC and doctors across the country have confirmed it.
I think my acceptable number for deaths is zero.
I think yours is whatever number it takes to get Trump out of office. And I think you need hoax flu to be real so that you can tell yourself that you were justified in wanting the lockdown and all the deaths it has caused.
But in reality you just wanted Trump out of office. And the hell of it is....Trump is going to win in a landslide. And the actions of the dems have guaranteed it.
CDC continues to push for re-opening schools in the name of public safety.
Dems know if schools reopen, lockdown is over, and so is their latest attempt to get rid of Trump. But if schools stay closed, drug overdoses and suicides will continue to increase.
So of course the dems want to keep the schools closed. Getting rid of Trump is worth any loss of life it takes to the left.
In related news.........Nursing home capacity is way up in NewYork.
I had forgotten that Ghost actually made this 100 % misinformed quote:
CDC director said that on video. Which you watched, then claimed he didn't say that.
TDS is a helluva drug.
NO he did not. Just like you misinterpreted theBroward County EO with your laughable idea that they proclaimed you had to wear a mask indoors , you mimic the right wing talking points regardless of how stupid. At least Ghost is consistent in misunderstanding.
Yes he did. My God you are a moron. He literally said that. I even quoted it to you after you watched it. You just didn't want to HEAR him say it, cause it went against the story you have lied yourself into believing.
You literally live in a world that does not exist. I honestly feel sorry for you.
Here's the video so everyone can hear for themselves what the CDC Director clearly says.
200K covid deaths is a larger number than 48K suicides. Get an intelligent person to show you. Math can be challenging to you I see.
Talk to the CDC Director.
You know what's a bigger number than 200k? 800k. That's the number of abortions we have every year.
Do you support abortion?
So now Ghost admits that there are far more covid deaths than suicides. Ghost loses so quick deflection to abortion. There goes Ghost i' and dancin' again. This is too easy.
Personal questions ( religion, personal wealth, family, etc.) are not things I share on message boards. Abortion falls into that category.
A non-answer is your answer. I can think of 800k reasons why your hypocrisy does not surprise me.
Which of the words confused you? To claim hypocrisy you'd have to know both my beliefs and how they're modified. You know neither. But Ghost has never needed facts, the thread topic concerns Ghost's stupid assertion that there are more suicides this year than covid deaths...... since that was easily shown wrong, he tries to deflect.
Ghost doin' his spinnin'
