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Brittney Griner sentenced to 9 years. She better pray for that prisoner swap.

What real American cares about what's said on Russian TV?

Or on Iranian, N Korean, & Chinese TV for that matter?
 
Putin wanted this POS back to get more weapons to the fight in Ukraine! I WONDER why the media forgot to over this?



Why would Putin need an arms dealer to get more weapons into Ukraine?

ron has lost getting any oxygen to his brain
 
It's a pretty good example of where America is right now.

Our enemies:

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Hiden and the dems are doing the same thing.

They literally got this guy out of jail:



A lot of terrorists will be making a LOT of money because of this deal.

Follow the money. Evil people are partying over this deal.
 
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This isn't the first time we've done a swap

Thousands of Americans have been at risk for decades...since the Iran hostages
So you disagree that we got played?

Obvious facts are obvious regardless who says them.
 
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So you disagree that we got played?

Obviously facts are obvious regardless who says them.

The ONLY people who think we got played are a bunch of right wing conservatives who NEVER miss making a positive event a political opportunity

Facts are facts....so the Whelan thinks the criticism is wrong

Are they stupid or do they know the facts better than the critics?


https://www.yahoo.com/news/paul-whelan-brother-slams-trump-234345973.html
Paul Whelan’s brother slams Trump after prisoner swap criticism
 
Your clip snippet from "Lords of War" was a good flick. Going to try to watch it again. Movies have gone to hell the past decade.
I watched it again a few weeks ago, it is a good film.

A lot of this shit is starting to make sense based on what we have learned the last few years. It's becoming easier to proactively connect the dots yourself.
 
So you disagree that we got played?

Obviously facts are obvious regardless who says them.
How did we get played?

The people running this country got to release the most prolific gun runner in world history, and his supplying guns will go on to facilitate countless wars and bring countless deaths along the way. And it will make trillions of dollars for the people that fought to have him released.

If by 'we' you mean the American people, yes we got played. But the people in charge made off like bandits.

Literally. Everyone is focused on who we got, thanks to media pushing that narrative.

Who they let loose on the world is the real story. That's why no one in the media is talking about it and why ray ray is toting water for them.
 
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We've been discussing Whelan here that you felt the need to start another stupid thread? Of course nobody has replied but yourself.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/paul-whelan-brother-slams-trump-234345973.html
Paul Whelan’s brother slams Trump after prisoner swap criticism

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The brother of former Marine Paul Whelan, who has been imprisoned in Russia for nearly four years, slammed former President Trump on Friday after Trump criticized the Biden administration for the deal it struck to free WNBA star Brittney Griner but not Whelan.

David Whelan said in a post on Twitter that Trump seems to have mentioned his brother’s wrongful detention more in the past 24 hours than he did during the two years of his presidency during which Whelan was imprisoned.

“I don’t suggest he cares now any more than he did then (zero),” he said.


 
Another lame attempt to try to control speech here on the forum....

The irony of the biggest whiners & complainers about Twitter trying to control speech on a rivals message board

😂
 
How many more Whelan threads do we need?

Oh I forgot this is a pro-conservative echo chamber thread

Fire up a few more !!! 🤣
 
How many more Whelan threads do we need?

Oh I forgot this is a pro-conservative echo chamber thread

Fire up a few more !!! 🤣
In fairness, Whelan's brother has a VERY complicated calculus here. Him being "up in arms" will only make the administration turn their back. There is no dynamic constituency pressuring the administration. he is not an objective observer here.
 
So the public critics are objective?

Do they have better information about what is being done behind the scenes than the family that is in contact with the State Dept directly?

They don't.

And why you think ANY administration turns its back on American hostages?

The only way to know that is by the results...in the case of Whelan trump did nothing
 
"I would have gotten Paul out..." Then why didn't you? 🤣


BTW - trump made his own prisoner swaps


https://punchng.com/trump-thanks-tehran-as-american-freed-in-prisoner-swap/
Trump thanks Tehran as American freed in prisoner swap
7th December 2019

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/11/21/trump-hopes-afghanistan-prisoner-release-prompts-ceasefire
Trump hopes Afghanistan prisoner release prompts ceasefire
Earlier this week, Afghan government released 3 Taliban commanders in exchange for 2 Western captives.

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-5000-taliban-brittany-griner-biden-prisoner-deal-1765859
Donald Trump Freeing 5,000 Taliban Members Compared to Biden Griner Deal
BY EWAN PALMER ON 12/9/22 AT 5:44 AM EST


Writing on Twitter, Omar Rivero, founder of Occupy Democrats, said: "The same Trumpers who are losing their minds right now because Biden freed a single Russian arms dealer in exchange for the release of WNBA star Brittney Griner didn't say a peep when Trump freed over 5,000 Taliban prisoners. You really can't make this sh*t up..."

"If you're upset that Biden exchanged an arms dealer for Brittany Griner—but approved Trump releasing 5,000 Taliban terrorists who then took over Afghanistan—stop pretending it's national security you care about," Rashid added.

 
BTW - trump made his
Donald Trump Freeing 5,000 Taliban Members Compared to Biden Griner Deal
BY EWAN PALMER ON 12/9/22 AT 5:44 AM EST


Writing on Twitter, Omar Rivero, founder of Occupy Democrats, said: "The same Trumpers who are losing their minds right now because Biden freed a single Russian arms dealer in exchange for the release of WNBA star Brittney Griner didn't say a peep when Trump freed over 5,000 Taliban prisoners. You really can't make this sh*t up..."
The Occupy Democrats guy is a bigger liar than you.

A prisoner of war is not the same kind of prisoner as a criminal. They are captured enemy combatants and when hostilities cease you are required by Geneva Convention to release them. We got 1000 of ours back in exchange. So saying he turned terrorists loose in exchange for nothing is factually incorrect.
 
The Occupy Democrats guy is a bigger liar than you.

A prisoner of war is not the same kind of prisoner as a criminal. They are captured enemy combatants and when hostilities cease you are required by Geneva Convention to release them. We got 1000 of ours back in exchange. So saying he turned terrorists loose in exchange for nothing is factually incorrect.


No hostilities had ceased or ever did cease...

Maybe if they were jailed they wouldn't have been on the street killing those 13 Americans when we left
 
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