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Posted by MDFer: I know, it’s difficult the get these people to engage in any meaningful way. They do nothing but call names and deflect when reality is shoved in their faces. I am called mega dumb **** sock puppet dumb any number of names, I don’t care at all. I find find it amusing and particularly unaware being singled out for doing similar things. It is what it is, I don’t whine and complain like these people do. Sad really, I am one person. If you would prefer I not post I won’t, it’s not a big deal.



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We still think a recession is coming, but it definitely didn’t start in the third quarter. Instead, as we set out below, it looks like real GDP expanded at a 4.7% annual rate. If we are right about that number, that would be the fastest pace of growth for any quarter since 2014, with the exception of the re-openings from COVID in 2020-21.

Keep in mind, though that even with growth that fast, the growth rate since the end of 2019 – the pre-COVID peak – would be only 1.9% per year, reflecting an underlying trend that is still slow.

Why do we still think a recession is coming? Because after the surge in money creation in 2020-21, monetary policy started getting tight in 2022. In the past year the M2 measure of the money supply is down 3.7%. Meanwhile the yield curve (we like to compare the 10-year Treasury yield to the target federal funds rate) has been inverted since late 2022 and is likely to stay that way for at least the next several months.

Higher short-term interest rates mean businesses have the ability to lock in healthy nominal returns on cash with minimal risk. In turn, this should lead to a reduction in risk-taking and business investment.

Meanwhile, jobs are still expanding rapidly. Payrolls are up 2.1% in the past year. During the economic expansion that happened before COVID (mid-2009 through early 2020), a pace that fast (2.1% or more) only happened when the unemployment rate was about 5.5%, which meant plenty of workers still available for hire. Now it’s happening when the unemployment rate is less than 4.0%. This suggests employers are out over their skis and vulnerable to any softness in demand.

The bottom line is that the economy grew rapidly in Q3 but Q4 and beyond are likely to be much slower.

Consumption: “Real” (inflation-adjusted) retail sales outside the auto sector rose at a 3.7% annual rate in Q3 while it looks like real services, which makes up most of consumer spending, should be up at about a 4.0% pace. The one weak spot was autos and light trucks, which declined at a 2.5% rate. Putting it all together, we estimate that real consumer spending on goods and services, combined, increased at a strong 4.1% rate, adding 2.8 points to the real GDP growth rate (4.1 times the consumption share of GDP, which is 68%, equals 2.8).

Business Investment: We estimate a 4.5% growth rate for business investment, with gains in intellectual property and equipment leading the way while commercial construction was roughly unchanged. A 4.5% growth rate would add 0.6 points to real GDP growth. (4.5 times the 14% business investment share of GDP equals 0.6).

Home Building: Residential construction is showing some resilience in spite of some lingering pain from higher mortgage rates. Home building looks like it grew at a 7.5% rate, which would add 0.3 points from real GDP growth. (7.5 times the 4% residential construction share of GDP equals 0.3).

Government: Only direct government purchases of goods and services (not transfer payments) count when calculating GDP. We estimate these purchases – which represent a 17% share of GDP – were up at a 1.8% rate in Q3, which would add 0.3 points to the GDP growth rate (1.8 times the 17% government purchase share of GDP equals 0.3).

Trade: Looks like the trade deficit shrank in Q3, as exports expended rapidly in spite of foreign economic weakness. We’re projecting net exports will add 0.5 points to real GDP growth.

Inventories: Inventories look like they grew a little bit faster in Q3 than in Q2, suggesting they’ll add about 0.2 points to the growth rate of real GDP. When a recession hits, we expect inventory declines to play a significant role in the drop in GDP.

Add it all up, and we get a 4.7% annual real GDP growth rate for the third quarter. Look for much slower growth in the fourth quarter.
 


Is Goldman right? Will the anti American insurrection supporting fools be happy or sad if the data is good??? Let me take a wild ass guess!
 
If you’re not better off you’re a complete idiot. Job market has never been stronger economy is ripping, stop letting your politics cloud what’s going on around you.


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And what does this have to do with the economy? Joe, is old and not particularly likable. The economy is hot as a pistol that’s the point. People love their stimi, I get why they are upset rates are no longer negative, free beer is handed out for a reason. Nobody handed out more free beer than Donald j trump
 
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It's kind of wild that over half of the "non farm payroll jobs" gains added were in gov and social assistance

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the usual crowd cheering for America to lose, the fbi was right, lock them up.
 
And what does this have to do with the economy? Joe, is old and not particularly likable. The economy is hot as a pistol that’s the point. People love their stimi, I get why they are upset rates are no longer negative, free beer is handed out for a reason. Nobody handed out more free beer than Donald j trump
Either you cannot read, or did not read. I am. It sure which(I have seen your sentence structure).
 
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Either you cannot read, or did not read. I am. It sure which(I have seen your sentence structure).
are you happy that the economy is on fire?? do you prefer negative interest rates?(ie, stimi) do you stand with the USA or with the traitors that attacked us??
 
stupid enough to believe what? they are simple questions answer them
Since I have been in retail sales for 4 decades...I KNOW when the economy is good, and when it is not. I do not need to read articles written by people that have never had a real job to help me make my mind up. Let me educate you on some very simple things that even you will be able to understand. Inflation has SEVERELY outpaced wages since Brandon came and f'd everything up. This makes this SIMPLE FACT....people have much less expendable income. Couple that with rates that have QUADRUPLED in that same time. This makes it IMPOSSIBLE for the economy to be ANYTHING but bad. I believe we ARE IN a recession at this time. The free money that your type live on from uncle sugar has pretty much dried up, and as much as lefties like yourself like to lie about things to everyone to help your entitlement dependability stay intact...things are NOT good now concerning the economy.
 
Since I have been in retail sales for 4 decades...I KNOW when the economy is good, and when it is not. I do not need to read articles written by people that have never had a real job to help me make my mind up. Let me educate you on some very simple things that even you will be able to understand. Inflation has SEVERELY outpaced wages since Brandon came and f'd everything up. This makes this SIMPLE FACT....people have much less expendable income. Couple that with rates that have QUADRUPLED in that same time. This makes it IMPOSSIBLE for the economy to be ANYTHING but bad. I believe we ARE IN a recession at this time. The free money that your type live on from uncle sugar has pretty much dried up, and as much as lefties like yourself like to lie about things to everyone to help your entitlement dependability stay intact...things are NOT good now concerning the economy.
So an election denier and economic facts denier!! Lol. Thank you for responding, even though you are economically clueless you had the balls to respond
 
there is no stimi like trump stimi. Sub 3% mortgages for 30 years!!!! Can you geniuses figure out how much that’s worth?? Present value??? A 1mm 3% mortgage is currently valued at
 


wow, this is primetime level smack talk....Big Joe speaking truth.


His own are about ready for the feast! LOLOLOL I CANNOT WAIT to rub this in your face! Brandon WILL NOT be the candidate! LOL What kind of mindless drivel are you going to bring to us next...NICKEL!! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
 


His own are about ready for the feast! LOLOLOL I CANNOT WAIT to rub this in your face! Brandon WILL NOT be the candidate! LOL What kind of mindless drivel are you going to bring to us next...NICKEL!! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
why would you rub it in my face? you think a give a FF who is president? I dont.
 
No...I would NEVER rub something in your face. Just TRYING to educate you!
Educate me on what? We have lousy candidates for president. One, trump, is the worst I have ever seen. In the end, it makes no difference to me who is prez. I do my own thing.
 
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