Subsidies are grants or loans (which the government forgives mostly). Just sat Biden forgave 10k in Subsidies to make you feel better about this.
Biden is on fire 🔥
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That's BS too. There are plenty of worthless silver spoon Gender Study graduates who make zero. 😂
So how many corporations receiving "subsidies" went to college? McFly, McFly? Did you forget what conversation you started?😂
Yes they are because 100% of my friends are people who struggle through college getting loans. They come from welfare backgrounds. I have friends who are Republicans that will benefit from this.
Just look at the college athletes who complain about not getting paid. They are mostly poor people who need money. You have a false sense of the real world.
Plenty and it doesn't bother you guys.
I'm not going back and forth with you guys on this. So I'll close with this. I get that some of you are far right and you have to hate on anything Biden does. I get that some of you only dislike how democrats spend money. I get that some of only dislike it because you think that you have to.
At the same time, elections have consequences. Promise made, promise kept. Keep it up Joe!
Why should college athletes get paid? They get free room, board, and tuition paid. And for most of them, that's as far as they'll go in the athletic world. I don't get your complaining.
You might be right. I hate a corrupt pedophile that has grifted his political influence to send a crackhead to foreign countries to enrich himself. The MSM turns a blind eye to that, even with a smoking gun right in their faces. Democrats piss away money right and left to buy votes. Sorry, you get ZERO sympathy here.
I'm not complaining and I 100% agree about college kids shouldn't get paid. I'm just pointing out that his stupid theory that poor kids doesn't go to college. Colleges are filled with poor kids, especially at state colleges.
This is another impeachable offense by this blithering idiot. He doesn’t control the power of the purse Congress does.
This is nothing more than welfare for the RAT 🐀voters paid for by the deplorables.
This is nothing more than welfare for the RAT 🐀voters paid for by the deplorables.
Aight. I misunderstood what you said about college athletes. My bad.
This is the REAL deal...
www.foxnews.com
Higher education showered Biden, Democrats with millions in campaign cash prior to student loan handout
President Biden and fellow Democrats heavily benefited from campaign contributions from individuals in higher education prior to the announced student loan handouts.
125k is VERY upper middle class
This is HOUSEHOLD income
According to the U.S. Census Bureau the median household income in 2020 was $67,521. Now, 3 years later, it is estimated to be $71,300 for nonmetropolitan areas according to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development.
This bill allows 250K HOUSEHOLD. AS I SAID..an ELITIST bill
trumpanzees is so stupid...
You can thank trump for this "illegal" "unconstitutional" action by Biden... 🤣
https://www.vox.com/2022/8/24/23319967/student-loan-payments-debt-forgiveness-biden
Is this even legal? Is there anything Biden’s political opponents can do to stop him?
Maybe? And, maybe? The Higher Education Act is almost 60 years old, and no president has ever done anything like this before. The Trump administration’s 2020 decision to suspend all federal student loan payments, which Biden has extended multiple times, came from a separate law granting the president powers during a national emergency like a pandemic. Biden is citing that authority for the new loan forgiveness plan.There are a host of constitutional provisions, federal laws, and legal precedents that obligate federal agencies to collect on outstanding debts. Skeptics also point out that Congress has enacted a number of specific student loan forgiveness programs, including plans that eliminate remaining debt after 20 years of payments or 10 years of public service. The administration’s recent decision to wipe out debt for students who attended the notorious for-profit Corinthian Colleges was based on a discrete legal provision meant to protect students who were defrauded by their college.
If Congress has specifically decided when loans can be forgiven, the thinking goes, it has also, by implication, decided that loans can’t be forgiven under other circumstances. Shortly before leaving office, Trump administration lawyers issued a memorandum asserting that the Department of Education does not have the authority to unilaterally forgive all the loans. But the Biden administration is not legally bound by that memo, and other legal scholars have argued that the Department of Education has the power to unilaterally forgive loans.
Opponents of debt forgiveness will also have to get over a considerable legal hurdle called “standing,” which means that not just anyone can file a lawsuit claiming that an executive order is illegal. You have to demonstrate that you would be personally harmed by the action. Merely being a taxpayer who implicitly owes a percentage of the national debt doesn’t count.
Because the benefits of debt forgiveness are specific and possible harms, such as the risk that loan forgiveness would worsen inflation, are generalized, few people or organizations can plausibly claim standing. Those that might include the organizations that the Department of Education hires to service loans, since they get paid per borrower and forgiveness will reduce the number of borrowers to service. The “guarantee agencies” that hold many of the old non-Direct loans that would be refinanced are also candidates.
That said, federal judges have been known to take an expansive view of standing if they really don’t like the action being challenged. In June, the Supreme Court’s West Virginia v. EPA decision placed new limits on the ability of federal agencies to expansively interpret their authority in matters of “vast economic and political significance.” The ultimate fate of executive loan forgiveness in the federal courts remains a big unknown.
I am not trying to make this about dim wits and republicans..it is an ELITIST bill. Median HOUSEHOLD income is 71K. This bill only disqualifies HHI of 250K. ELITIST vote grab
never doubt me. Game.set.match
@kalimgoodman @RayGravesGhost
Flashback: Nancy Pelosi Said President Lacks Authority to ‘Forgive’ Student Debt
People think that the President of the United States has the power for debt forgiveness. He does not. He can postpone. He can delay. But he does not have that power. That has to be an act of Congress,” Pelosi saidJuly 28 at a press conference.
“The President can’t do it. So that’s not even a discussion. Not everybody realizes that. But the President can only postpone, delay, but not forgive,” she added.
She also mentioned how voters would be mad about student loan “forgiveness,”appearing to question whether such a policy would be “fair.”
Pelosi mentioned a scenario where “your child just decided they want to – at this time, not want to go to college, but you’re paying taxes to forgive somebody else’s obligations.”
Flashback: Nancy Pelosi Said President Lacks Authority to ‘Forgive’ Student Debt | National Review
Pelosi said presidential debt forgiveness was ‘not even a discussion.’
www.nationalreview.com
Maybe your dumbest post ever...and that is saying something.
Biden employing the same "national emergency" powers of a POTUS that trump used for the border wall
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_wall
The National Emergency Concerning the Southern Border of the United States (Proclamation 9844) was declared on February 15, 2019, by President of the United States Donald Trump. Citing the National Emergencies Act, it ordered the diversion of billions of dollars of funds that had been appropriated to the U.S. Department of Defense for military construction.[1][2] Trump declared the emergency after he signed, but derided, a bipartisan funding bill (passed by the House and the Senate a day before) containing border security funding without funding for the border wall that Trump demanded.[2][3]
Trump had previously threatened to declare a national emergency if Congress did not pass his entire desired program for a wall on the United States–Mexican border by February 15, 2019.[4] Under Proclamation 9844, the Trump administration intended to redirect $8 billion in previously-agreed expenditure and to use the money to build the wall instead.[5][6][7] Under Trump's plan, $3.6 billion assigned to military construction, $2.5 billion meant for the Department of Defense's drug interdiction activities, and $600 million from the Treasury's forfeiture fund would be diverted for wall construction.[5][6][7] Trump's declaration was unprecedented in that none of the 58 previous emergency declarations made by U.S. presidents involved circumventing Congress to spend money it had expressly refused to authorize or allocate.[8][9]
Trump's declaration of a national emergency was condemned by Democrats as unconstitutional; U.S. Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer called the declaration an affront to the rule of law that was "a lawless act, a gross abuse of the power of the presidency and a desperate attempt to distract from the fact that President Trump broke his core promise to have Mexico pay for his wall."[10] Some Republicans also criticized Trump's declaration, fearing that circumventing Congress would set a dangerous precedent for the future.[10] Congress passed a joint resolution to terminate the national emergency, but it was vetoed by Trump; this was his first veto.[11]
Trump's declaration of a national emergency was immediately challenged in federal court, with California and sixteen other states suing the federal government on separation of powers grounds.[12]
The Sierra Club and ACLU brought a similar suit.[13] In 2019, a U.S. district court issued a preliminary injunction, and later a permanent injunction, in the Sierra Club suit, blocking Trump from diverting military funds for construction of a border wall.[14] In July 2019, the Supreme Court, in a 5–4, one-paragraph ruling, overturned the lower court's ruling in Trump v. Sierra Club that blocked the use of funds to construct the border wall pending further legal proceedings; the Supreme Court majority found that the Sierra Club likely lacked legal standing.[15][16]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_wall
The National Emergency Concerning the Southern Border of the United States (Proclamation 9844) was declared on February 15, 2019, by President of the United States Donald Trump. Citing the National Emergencies Act, it ordered the diversion of billions of dollars of funds that had been appropriated to the U.S. Department of Defense for military construction.[1][2] Trump declared the emergency after he signed, but derided, a bipartisan funding bill (passed by the House and the Senate a day before) containing border security funding without funding for the border wall that Trump demanded.[2][3]
Trump had previously threatened to declare a national emergency if Congress did not pass his entire desired program for a wall on the United States–Mexican border by February 15, 2019.[4] Under Proclamation 9844, the Trump administration intended to redirect $8 billion in previously-agreed expenditure and to use the money to build the wall instead.[5][6][7] Under Trump's plan, $3.6 billion assigned to military construction, $2.5 billion meant for the Department of Defense's drug interdiction activities, and $600 million from the Treasury's forfeiture fund would be diverted for wall construction.[5][6][7] Trump's declaration was unprecedented in that none of the 58 previous emergency declarations made by U.S. presidents involved circumventing Congress to spend money it had expressly refused to authorize or allocate.[8][9]
Trump's declaration of a national emergency was condemned by Democrats as unconstitutional; U.S. Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer called the declaration an affront to the rule of law that was "a lawless act, a gross abuse of the power of the presidency and a desperate attempt to distract from the fact that President Trump broke his core promise to have Mexico pay for his wall."[10] Some Republicans also criticized Trump's declaration, fearing that circumventing Congress would set a dangerous precedent for the future.[10] Congress passed a joint resolution to terminate the national emergency, but it was vetoed by Trump; this was his first veto.[11]
Trump's declaration of a national emergency was immediately challenged in federal court, with California and sixteen other states suing the federal government on separation of powers grounds.[12]
The Sierra Club and ACLU brought a similar suit.[13] In 2019, a U.S. district court issued a preliminary injunction, and later a permanent injunction, in the Sierra Club suit, blocking Trump from diverting military funds for construction of a border wall.[14] In July 2019, the Supreme Court, in a 5–4, one-paragraph ruling, overturned the lower court's ruling in Trump v. Sierra Club that blocked the use of funds to construct the border wall pending further legal proceedings; the Supreme Court majority found that the Sierra Club likely lacked legal standing.[15][16]
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I know facts are something trumpanzees are devoid of....but in this case the facts especially must hurt since the lawlessness & unconsitutionality comes from donald trump himself... 🤣
Two Republicans. One is male, the other is female. Pin the tail on the Donkey (BScuck). 😂
The President does not have the legal authority to forgive student loans on his own. Only Congress has the power of the purse. Executive action can be used only when it has been specifically authorized by Congress.
The executive branch cannot spend money that has not been appropriated by Congress, per 31 USC 1301 et seq (Antideficiency Act (P.L. 97-258)) and Article I, Section 7, Clause 7 of the U.S. Constitution.
This article is written to @kalimgoodman @RayGravesGhost
Student Loan Forgiveness: All Hail Joe Biden, King
He is transferring wealth to his favorite constituents: rich people.
Democracy.
Graduates who have loans of $10,000, or $20,000 for Pell grants, will have their loans paid by their working-class neighbors and fellow students who worked their way through college and have paid their loans.
The list of people being screwed over by this $300 billion gift to rich people is long:
The tiny detail of Biden making whimsical declarations of absolute authority will bother none of those who gravely intoned that there needs to be a return to norms.
The New Norm is that Biden is King. He can remove Donald Trump’s presidential authority over records. He can give $10,000 checks to his favorite people. (READ MORE by Melissa Mackenzie: All Hail Joe Biden, King of the Elites)
No more lectures by the people who got this tyrant elected. As the Republic fails, these thieves raid the treasury and pay off their favorite constituents. Gotta keep the brainless army of the overeducated marching in Biden’s direction.
All hail Joe Biden, King!
spectator.org
Student Loan Forgiveness: All Hail Joe Biden, King
He is transferring wealth to his favorite constituents: rich people.
Democracy.
Graduates who have loans of $10,000, or $20,000 for Pell grants, will have their loans paid by their working-class neighbors and fellow students who worked their way through college and have paid their loans.
The list of people being screwed over by this $300 billion gift to rich people is long:
- Graduates who worked their way through college
- Graduates who have paid their loans back (me)
- Parents who saved up to pay for their kid’s college (me)
- Parents who paid part of their kid’s college tuition
- Graduates who took private loans
- Graduates who consolidated their loans
- Current students
- Working-class people who never went to college
- Poor, working-class, and middle-class people who can’t buy food or gas because of inflation
- Anybody with a sense of fairness or a brain that can comprehend how this punishes those who do the right thing and incentivizes those who don’t.
- Colleges that don’t have to account for driving up loans on nonsense degrees
- Graduates with stupid degrees who can’t get a job (think “women’s studies”)
- White, suburban women with college degrees staying at home to take care of the kids who worry about their student loans.
The tiny detail of Biden making whimsical declarations of absolute authority will bother none of those who gravely intoned that there needs to be a return to norms.
The New Norm is that Biden is King. He can remove Donald Trump’s presidential authority over records. He can give $10,000 checks to his favorite people. (READ MORE by Melissa Mackenzie: All Hail Joe Biden, King of the Elites)
No more lectures by the people who got this tyrant elected. As the Republic fails, these thieves raid the treasury and pay off their favorite constituents. Gotta keep the brainless army of the overeducated marching in Biden’s direction.
All hail Joe Biden, King!
Student Loan Forgiveness: All Hail Joe Biden, King - The American Spectator | USA News and PoliticsThe American Spectator | USA News and Politics
President Joe Biden, elder statesman, steady hand, and all-around good guy, just decided by fiat that henceforth and herewith, student loans shall be forgiven
The President does not have the legal authority to forgive student loans on his own. Only Congress has the power of the purse. Executive action can be used only when it has been specifically authorized by Congress.
The executive branch cannot spend money that has not been appropriated by Congress, per 31 USC 1301 et seq (Antideficiency Act (P.L. 97-258)) and Article I, Section 7, Clause 7 of the U.S. Constitution.
Your boy trump set the precedent trying to build the wall,,,
You were warned..
Funny as Fukking Hell I say... 🤣
Some Republicans also criticized Trump's declaration, fearing that circumventing Congress would set a dangerous precedent for the future.[10] Congress passed a joint resolution to terminate the national emergency, but it was vetoed by Trump; this was his first veto.[11]
That would be funny. That is what happened under Bush. He used so many EOs and his conservative court protected him. Then Obama came in and did it worse. That is why setting a partisan precedent can be dangerous or come back to bite you in the butt.
At the same time, this court doesn't care. I expect them to go against what they previously ruled because it doesn't fit their politics.
Da fuk you even trying to say Lil Dickey? That you hate America? Poor Ray Ray. Nothing for you. 😂
trumpanzees in major poo flinging alert after finding out the precedent to Biden's constitutional power to authorize loan forgiveness stems from trump's actions on the border wall...
You just can't make this chit up... 🤣
You just can't make this chit up... 🤣
Agree 100% but this will all be some ugly optics for the republican party
But if they want to be on record against insulin caps & cancelling student debt...
OK that's up to them 👍
This has all exposed (lol) so much about the dems. I didn’t realize there were this many that would be ok with pedophilia because…..muh politics
Do I get money back since I paid for my college? It only seems fair, right? If not, I would be paying for my college and other peoples college.
I hear you but already for rich people to cocaine parties or whatever MTG, Gaetz, etc did with their PPP loan that was forgave. I'm sure you posted on here about that.
