There didn't seem to be much difference in completion percentage from school to school. Tebow was at 66 percent and he was all world in college. I don't think anyone is arguing that he was a good passer or qb for that matter, just that he never developed. I do agree that he would have been much better under Meyer. It seemed like in Meyers offense, the pre snap read was almost always on point. Worked for Tebow and probably would have worked for Driskel. The NFL has similar complaints about Tebow that we had about Driskel while at Florida.
Anybody see the ESPN highlight of Jeff Driskel scoring the TD last night
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See response to Sad. Who did he play? He's always torn up cupcake opponents even at UF. I know y'all want to casually dismiss that because it doesn't fit the narrative, but he's never had a problem performing against weaker teams. His completion %, yards per attempt, yards per completion, etc. weren't far off from what he had at UF. He just got to throw it way more times at LA Tech and as a result had more yards and TD's. That's literally the only difference, I understand why y'all want to be obtuse and ignore all that though.
He played teams equivalent to La Tech. He didn't play a bunch of cupcakes at La Tech when your on an average team yourself. It's not like La Tech is some powerhouse program.
I didn't realize his QB rating was top 15 in the country his senior year. That is pretty impressive.
He's collecting a paycheck in the NFL at the moment so I'm sure he is doing fine.
He would have probably had a decent college career if he played for Meyer, Rich Rod, Kelly, Malzahn, Dan Mullen, etc.
Tebow and Driskel were night and day upstairs when it came to playing in the SEC. Tebow thrived under SEC pressure and Driskel wilted big time under the pressure. Tebow would have produced big time under someone like Roper.
Yeah...you're probably right...our perception of Driskel wouldn't be any different if he had had many more yards and many more TD's at Florida...lol.
Still laughing at anyone thinking Driskel didn't cause most of his own issues. Just watch the Miami, Georgia and Missouri highlights etc. It was almost like watching America's funniest football videos if you were the opposing team.
LA Tech was not average compared to his competition, they won 9 games and played in their conference title game the year before Driskel even got there. Regardless, as I've already showed, he performed exceptionally well against poor teams while at UF too. So I'm not sure why him continuing to do the same thing at LA Tech is some kind of a referendum on his time at UF. He got to play more poor teams and throw it more times which boosted his numbers. But in terms of things like completion %, etc. it was no different from his time at UF.
So are you concerned with pretty stats or are you concerned with effectiveness? To give you an analogy, if I shot 100 3's I could probably make 25 of them, but that doesn't mean I'm a great 3-point shooter if I'm shooting 25% from downtown. It just means I got more attempts at makes. What y'all are essentially doing is saying "hey I know he only shoots 25% from three, but damn he made 25 3's!" while discounting that he shot it 100 more times than normal to get to those 25 makes. It's simple math.
Roper didn't last long. Granted I blame Muschamp for most of that. I disagree that Tebow would have flourished in that offense. No one looked good in that offense. It was really sad. Run on 1st and 2nd down, and then pass 3rd and 6. It was so predictable that no qb would have been successful.
Driskel had the 15th highest Qb rating in the country his senior year at LA Tech. That is pretty impressive. The good senior year he had at La Tech is probably the only reason he even got drafted.
The QB at La Tech the year right after him was # 6 in the country in that rating. Its a QB rating friendly system that the coach admitted he even simplified some for Driskel.
You're talking to a wall. They're going to keep banging that drum completely ignoring the quality of defense like he didn't also tear up scrub teams at UF. His efficiency numbers didn't improve at all, they just let him sling it almost 500 times. If that season mattered at all he'd have been drafted much higher when combining his physical skills, yet he still almost went undrafted. Not hard to understand why if you really want to be honest about it. And like I already mentioned that LA Tech team won 9 games and were in their conference title game the year before he got there, they were like 7-1 in conference in the regular season or something like that.
I guess it's a good thing his coach at UF didn't simplify things for him here or that coach would have been here a little bit longer.
I really don't think he will be a NFL starter much less a star...but he had it crappy here at UF as did Brissett
I agree they did have it bad here and I am giving him too much grief since it was Muschamp who kept putting him back out there. I just wish he wasn't pre-ordained to be the starter. I think Brissett could have probably grown into a decent starter here at least after watching him play against better defenders than his offensive talent at NC State.
How much can you 'simplify' against the likes of LSU, UGA, FSU, Bama, Auburn, etc. and still have a good offense? For us to dumb it down any further we'd have an offense drawn up in crayon. It's much easier to simplify against North Texas and move the ball than it is LSU.
Even in Meyer's 'simple' offense Tebow didn't take the next step until he started diagnosing and burning teams when they came after us. He struggled with that in the second half of games in 07' and it contributed to some of our losses (along with our atrocious defense). Just look at the Capital One game against Michigan and see how they blitzed him non-stop because he couldn't ID it. Teams did that to Driskel for 3 years and he could never ID it, even in Roper's 'simple' offense where he rarely had more than a half-field read. We ran him plenty of times in 2012 to help with that (which everybody claims we didn't do) to the point he was our second leading rusher and had over 700 yards and it still didn't help matters because he could never read coverage.
And ironically, the 'success' he's having this preseason is in an offense completely different than the one people keep saying he would have been good in. Cincy runs a west coast offense that let's him throw short and let's receivers get YAC. The throws are basically extended hand-offs. The one guy who did run a spread-option and drafted him cut him after a few weeks in part because he couldn't make fast enough decisions with their run-pass options. Now where have we heard that complaint before?
Our Florida offense under Muschamp may not have been simplified, but our program was under the direction of a simpleton. Doesn't that count?
I said it for 3 years, and after the very first SEC game against A&M when he took like 9 sacks and we won because of the defense doing something impossible to the heisman in the 2nd half, which is why we won all those games and would have won it all with a QB with the best defense, maybe that we've ever had at UF... I said over and over again and people thought I was exaggerating that driskel couldn't read the difference between a fg block blitz coming and just sit there like a moron and get smashed for sack fumble one after another, after he lost the miami game against that joke team that was the most irate ive been about a game in years...
extended hand offs is right, look at his td pass from the other night, he NEVER even looked anywhere but his one option stared down for the throw, in the NFL. Thankfully for him, he was wide open in the back of the endzone...
You blaming Driskel for us not winning it all in 2012?
He actually had the potential game winning drive and pass vs UGA but it was Jordan Reed that fumbled before crossing the goal line.
I mean you are correct about most of the post but I'm not putting the blame for not winning it all in 2012 on Driskel. Purifoy fvcked up that UGA game as well.
no, the game was where it was against UGA because of his failures, especially in the red zones... and the first TD UGA scored that was basically enough on his failure sack fumble..
We have a QB that year, we would have been playing Bama for the spot in Atlanta without a doubt... not needing miracles to get by ULL and Brissett having to save the day at the end to tie it.
Driskel f'ed up the UGA game the entire way, he was miserable while our defense, as usual was incredible all day until they were forced to jump the gun aggressively on their last TD to put it away.
We have a QB that year, we would have been playing Bama for the spot in Atlanta without a doubt... not needing miracles to get by ULL and Brissett having to save the day at the end to tie it.
Driskel f'ed up the UGA game the entire way, he was miserable while our defense, as usual was incredible all day until they were forced to jump the gun aggressively on their last TD to put it away.
Driskel did have 4 turnovers that Georgia game and the first was classic "Driskeling". People forget that because we were within 8 points when Reed fumbled there.
One of Driskel's picks was in the end zone also.
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Before they benched Jeff for TH, in just 6 games the receivers had already had 22 DROPS. 
With all of the help that he was getting from the OL, RB, TE, WR, Play Caller, it's a real wonder that he didn't look like another Tebow...
With all of the help that he was getting from the OL, RB, TE, WR, Play Caller, it's a real wonder that he didn't look like another Tebow...
And anyone that thinks that Tebow wasn't any good in the NFL should go look at the first 16 NFL starts for Elway and Manning. Compare them to Tebow's first 16 NFL starts and see what you get...
the driskel apologies are hilarious, how much worse play do you need to possibly see from a kid before you just throw up your hands and laugh, unless he's related to you or something...
ill never forget calling the next pick six against Mizzou and the play by play saying you gotta be kidding me, only driskel could make you hear something like that you've never heard before come out a guys mouth calling a game...
ill never forget calling the next pick six against Mizzou and the play by play saying you gotta be kidding me, only driskel could make you hear something like that you've never heard before come out a guys mouth calling a game...
I made a mistake it appears Driskel actually had 4 turnovers against Georgia in 2012. Doing all kinds of mess throwing right into coverage in the end zone getting picked and fumbling twice - once with the classic no sense of where the defense was.
Before they benched Jeff for TH, in just 6 games the receivers had already had 22 DROPS.
With all of the help that he was getting from the OL, RB, TE, WR, Play Caller, it's a real wonder that he didn't look like another Tebow...
Treon Harris played with those same players and improved the offense after Driskel was benched. Treon. Harris. As a true freshman to boot. And he isn't remotely a good QB. Same thing happened in 2013 for Murphy originally before he got hurt, the offense got better. Sensing a pattern yet? And that 2014 OL has 4 of 5 players starting in the NFL including a 1st round pick at LT, clearly they weren't the problem. Y'all forgetting how we ran for nearly 400 yards against UGA while attempting like 5 passes? How does a poor OL do that? Matt Jones has been decent in the NFL, Kelvin Taylor was a 1,000 yard rusher at UF, etc. Everybody gets blamed to cover for Driskel's shortcomings apparently even though those same teammates have gone on to have more success than he has had. Rinse and repeat.
PS -- Driskel is so totally incompetent that he's now drawing an NFL paycheck, while all of his phootball genius detractors are still asking; would you like fries with that order,,, (or some such)...
Oh ok. Totally supports your point. Those same players who were so terrible and made poor Jeff's job impossible are also in the NFL. So your point is what? Don't answer, we know you don't have a point. Jeff isn't terrible because he's bouncing around the practice squad, but his teammates who actually get to play in NFL games suck because Insta needs somebody to blame for Jeff's incompetence. Seems legit.
