It’s simple . The OP made a claim that ODonnell’s original statement was false. That has not been proven. Only that there is no corroborating source. yet.
So the claim may or may not be true.
And....Here....We....Go
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It’s simple . The OP made a claim that ODonnell’s original statement was false. That has not been proven. Only that there is no corroborating source. yet.
So the claim may or may not be true.
No, you said they proved the claim was false. This only proves he did not sufficiently vet his source.
Show me the loan app and then I’ll believe you.
No you won't. You've repeatedly been schooled on this and every topic you talk about, and you never learn. Because you don't want to learn, you just want your worldview confirmed.
Oooohhhh!!!! If I show you the loan app then you'll believe me? Do I really care what you believe? Not that it makes any difference what you believe. You still believe Bob Mueller is still investigating Trump on Russian collusion while pretending you didn't follow up on any of it while on "vacation."
Tony Rezko memba him? He and Rod got the big house with free anal sex. zer0 got the White House and the free ... Rezzy and Rod should get medals from the DNC for taking it up the arse for zer0
Who's more pathetic, you or Alyssa Milano? If only she could travel back in time to convince her parents about the benefits of abortion.
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2019...rump-supporters-is-aging-worse-by-the-minute/
I've warned certain folks on this forum to stop doing such a good job of thinking.
You need to be added to that list of warned persons.
You understand that should you continue doing such a good job of thinking.............
Folks are gonna expect it all the time.
Nobody can rebuke this great post of yours.
Agent Orange
What does that have to do with the OPs claim that Trump didn’t get Russia to co-sign his loan?
Man you guys have a tough time responding to the issue at hand. Is it ADD or just insecurity?
If you have such a hard on for having his tax returns audited, look it up yourself. If CNN and MSNBC ain't worried about it, neither should you.
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Again, you didn't know he was audited at all until I had to explain it to you.
President Trump has undergone the same auditing process that every single President goes under. The 2016 election is over. You lost. Move on.
The day President DJT starts sending pallets of ca$h to Iran, worries about 200 different genders, fears cow farts are ending civilization as we know it...then I'll start considering spending about 0.00000001 of a second worrying about audits for DJT.
After all, "at this point...what does it really matter...and just who really gives a chit, anyway?" (kinda like Benghazi, remember?)
Interesting how so many democratic faithful have kept their mouths shut for years with respect to how so many democratic congress critters and senators came to Washington D.C. as lower or middle class citizens now to be wealthy as can be off a senatorial/congressional salary...but we need to focus on DJT and not any of them for any "sweetheart deals" or any insider trading tips they might have received or any campaign donations from less than dubious sources...but we need to focus on DJT, right?
Nor have any democratic lawmakers gone public, apologizing for helping to run up ruinous debt(s).
Start setting some priorities, Dude...RussiaGate failed miserably...Putin did not interfere in the 2016 election, nobody from Russia gave Hillary advanced questions for the debates vs Trump, Trump never hired Lois Lerner to run the IRS, Oh-bomba and HRC left Libya in ruins after all their "help"...nor has DJT traveled the world whining/crying about he wasn't listed as a "person of color."
Agent Orange
O'Donnell has admitted that his story was flawed and that he never should have reported it. It didn't meet their journalistic standards (haha, no comment on those standards).
Now you want Trump to prove that this BS story (BS according to the journalist himself) isn't true? And that seems reasonable and rational to you?
No offense but I don't believe that.
You would continue to ask for the line to be moved until you got the result you wanted. If/when you don't get what you want, you would claim Trump tricked and cheated the process and that's why the left didn't "get him."
It's a lose-lose for Trump, and everyone really, but if you got your way then the left would never have to admit they lost...they were cheated instead. That is why it will never happen. I also believe that you're smart enough that you already knew all of this.
Of course they cheer for a recession. Yes, it's partly because they hate Trump, but mostly because they hate America.
Such a convenient excuse. It’s a simple factual proposition. Either they did or they didn’t.
Congress has subpoenaed the records. Trump is fighting it. I’m sure he has nothing to hide. You people are so blind when it it comes to Trump and his businesses.
All you see is an excuse? And not human nature particularly when it comes to politics?
Because the left (and the right for that matter) hasn't moved the goalposts before when crap like this blew up in their face?
C'mon man...you know better. There is literally nothing to gain by cooperating with this sort of thing. Best case scenario is that you prove Trump did _____. Worst case scenario is that "we haven't caught him yet." Tell me this isn't true. Tell me I'm wrong.
I would agree if this were just some wild goose chase. But there is plenty of testimony from his his lawyers and CFO that his financial dealings are not on the up and up. If he weren’t president, that would be enough evidence to already be required to hand over these records.
Do you guys ever get tired of jerking each other off? It’s kind of embarrassing.
It’s true that he released information without properly vetting it. Kudos to him for retracting the story. My only response was with regards to the OPs claim that his retraction means the story was not true. No, it doesn’t.
He still has no idea who the OP is, does he? But he does think Lawrence O'Donnell deserves kudos for breaking every established rule of good journalism.
And these people wonder why they aren't taken seriously.
Since you're only saying that...I'll be more than happy to join you in the gutter.
Since the majority of folks here on this forum tend to be more conservative in stance, disposition, and outlook......
If you really want to be honest and even more embarrassed...then you can easily admit to us how millions of folks who are part of "The Resistance" have not only jerked themselves and others off who agreed with them...they swallowed load after load of the liberal spunk...the taste and texture must have been great...they come back for more and more...guess they're addicted to it.
Talk about embarrassing.
Agent Orange
No doubt. You finally said something that makes sense.
Groupthink is a big problem today, and not confined to either side of the political spectrum.
PS. You can’t call yourself a true conservative, and then fall for half the populist BS Trump spews. Conservatives don’t support huge deficit spending, innumerable executive orders, and policies and thinking that flaunt the constitution.
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No...I've been making sense and cents since I joined this forum...you were too busy to notice.
Or too ignorant to read/heed excellent emotional and logical discourse.
I didn't vote for DJT nor did I vote for Hilluree...I've only voted a very few times and each time I casted a vote for Nick Saban...my way of protesting the two main parties.
Since we only have two viable parties to vote for...it comes down to voting/supporting the lesser of the two evils...an unfortunate situation but a reality, nonetheless...the main sticking point with the left side of the aisle is that it (the left side of the aisle) is even worse than the conservative side...political correctness, lack of clarity of gender issues, porous borders for illegal immigration, continuous racism of the left...have myself to where support for the liberal side is not possible.
You mentioned about falling for the populism of DJT...but you failed to mention the left-wing socialist populism...and I have to wonder why...you understand where I noted what you wrote/included and what you didn't write/include.
Nor did you mention the many times those on the left side of the aisle with their ways of flaunting the constitution...and yet I wonder why.
You didn't intend to mention the left-leaning populism and anti-constitutional policies of the left...so, you didn't mention those particular items...your one-sided written agenda became very, very obvious...in fact, a blind person could easily have seen through and past your attempted agenda.
Since you were so obviously embarrassed about those folks "jerking each other off"...it comes as quite the surprise that if you're going to be wedded (as you are) to being so anti-DJT...you'd come up a much better written, mental agenda to cover your tracks much easier and better...nor have you mentioned the continuous "jerk-off" spectacle of the Left...which again, was duly noted.
A bit of mystery and intrigue on your part would serve to further your interests.
Not to mention your posting style.
Remember the old phrase we were all taught as children........................
"A word to the wise should be sufficient."
Hopefully one day that concept will be ingrained in your particular style of thinking/posting.
Agent Orange
BTW, the same goober lecturing about the dangers of groupthink also told us that "everyone knows Trump is hiding something".
The lack of self-awareness is astounding.
I didn’t because I was addressing you and the others ITT. I haven’t seen anyone ITT spouting socialist views.
I have major problems with much of the Dem platform, especially socialism and the GND. I challenge you to prove otherwise. However, those ideas aren’t spouted by people ITT so there’s no one to argue with.
And spare me the lecture on my posting style. I’m hardly the worse. Most of the people OTB cant even say Obama’s name without corrupting it into some childish nonsense (O’bummer, Mugabe, etc. ). Yet not a word from you about their posting styles. I’ve yet to see the Ghost nerd answer a single question I’ve raised, which is why I don’t bother with him any more.
So enough with the duplicitous attitude. If you bring hard facts, I’ll acknowledge it. If you post nonsense, I’ll let you have it. No matter which side you represent.
@BSC911...tell 'ya what, Man.
Send out an alert on this forum when you plan to start posting hard, truthful facts.
Then myself and others will acknowledge it.
When you post nonsense...which is a recurrent theme of yours...we'll let you have it.
When you give both sides of the aisle the scorn they rightly deserve...and post about the Left and it's many "errors of reign"...you can be taken more seriously.
The reason why I've hardly mentioned anyone else's posting style is that when being found to be wrong or not being factual or jumping too quickly to unsubstantiated conclusions...they're folks enough to admit to their mistakes.
You double-down then triple-down and your version(s) don't change or improve.
You keep writing the same thing...and nothing changes to help corroborate your claims.
Reminds me of certain folks on certain "news" (????) outlets.
Since you mentioned @GhostOfMatchesMalone not answering your queries...it might be he's given up on any logical or otherwise debate and realized dialogue with you was time poorly spent never to be regained.
Agent Orange
Send out an alert on this forum when you plan to start posting hard, truthful facts.
Then myself and others will acknowledge it.
When you post nonsense...which is a recurrent theme of yours...we'll let you have it.
When you give both sides of the aisle the scorn they rightly deserve...and post about the Left and it's many "errors of reign"...you can be taken more seriously.
The reason why I've hardly mentioned anyone else's posting style is that when being found to be wrong or not being factual or jumping too quickly to unsubstantiated conclusions...they're folks enough to admit to their mistakes.
You double-down then triple-down and your version(s) don't change or improve.
You keep writing the same thing...and nothing changes to help corroborate your claims.
Reminds me of certain folks on certain "news" (????) outlets.
Since you mentioned @GhostOfMatchesMalone not answering your queries...it might be he's given up on any logical or otherwise debate and realized dialogue with you was time poorly spent never to be regained.
Agent Orange
Such as?
The glaciers arent melting and the earth’s temperatures aren’t rising?
Trump is not a habitual liar?
GMAFB.
It's Summer. Ice melts in the Summer, temperatures go up in the Summer.
Will you be back in 3 months when the glaciers are expanding and the temperatures are falling and claim we are entering an Ice Age?
Trump is called a liar by liars, and you give them kudos when they have to go on the air and admit they lied.
Are you insane?
Bingo. He had his chance, but any attempt at intelligent debate is wasted on him. That's why all he gets now is mockery, because that's all he's earned.
Hers a good example of where you are mistaken ( I won’t say ignorant).
1. You totally miss the point about his tax returns. Did you know that he could list embezzlement or selling of illegal drugs and the IRS would sign off as correct. That’s because they only report on compliance with TAX LAWS. In fact, you get into trouble with the IRS if you don’t report illegal activities as income.
2. You don’t care if Russia guaranteed Trumps loans, and then he lied about it? Sorry, I and most others would care if the Russians have something over him that compromises his foreign policies.
So which part of this response is “nonsense” or “inaccurate.”
If we enter a recession, it will be because of Trumps dumb trade policies, not because some Dems “want” it to happen.
Illegal activities are forwarded to the DOJ for prosecution. Damn you are dumb.
In the early eighties, Robert Mugabe took over the African continent's crown jewel health care system. Obama used similar tactics in his efforts to take over the U. S. system.
Lamumba was an empty suit. Mobutu saw the state treasury as his personal account. Kasavubu blamed all the country's ills on the press (Fox News?) and predecessors. Sound familiar?
Lamumba was an empty suit. Mobutu saw the state treasury as his personal account. Kasavubu blamed all the country's ills on the press (Fox News?) and predecessors. Sound familiar?
