Alabama Ruining College Football

[Michi_Gator]

Honestly they kind of are, not their fault, they are doing what they should be doing. It's just boring to watch. Cfb is losing fans at a rapid rate, mainly because there is no mystery in who is going to be good. I don't think it's about other teams failing to step up. Bama and UGA easily have the best players, best coaches, best support staffs, and most money. Now you add in NIL and it's tilted even more. NFL has steps to stop this. NCAA could do the same. Cap the salary of head coaches, cap the support staff size, cap recruiting staff size, don't allow playoff teams to take transfers, etc. So many options to create parity. The issue of "other teams stepping up" is the money gap is widening and you can't expect a pac 12 team to keep up with Bama. It just won't happen. NCAA needs to force the hand

You can’t do any of the above.

Don’t allow them to take transfers??? So basically tell kids they can only go to certain schools?? Yeah, that wouldn’t fly. Legally would be crushed.

And don’t write of PAC 12 teams. You are about to see USC show up in a big way. Hollywood, flashy coach, NIL money like none other, free agency via the portal.

College football has NEVER had parity. Read once there are like 16 - 18 schools that legitimately ever have a chance to be relevant.

 

[fsu939913]

You can’t do any of the above.

Don’t allow them to take transfers??? So basically tell kids they can only go to certain schools?? Yeah, that wouldn’t fly. Legally would be crushed.

And don’t write of PAC 12 teams. You are about to see USC show up in a big way. Hollywood, flashy coach, NIL money like none other, free agency via the portal.

College football has NEVER had parity. Read once there are like 16 - 18 schools that legitimately ever have a chance to be relevant.

Now there is like 4.

 

[LizardGrad89]

Honestly they kind of are, not their fault, they are doing what they should be doing. It's just boring to watch. Cfb is losing fans at a rapid rate, mainly because there is no mystery in who is going to be good. I don't think it's about other teams failing to step up. Bama and UGA easily have the best players, best coaches, best support staffs, and most money. Now you add in NIL and it's tilted even more. NFL has steps to stop this. NCAA could do the same. Cap the salary of head coaches, cap the support staff size, cap recruiting staff size, don't allow playoff teams to take transfers, etc. So many options to create parity. The issue of "other teams stepping up" is the money gap is widening and you can't expect a pac 12 team to keep up with Bama. It just won't happen. NCAA needs to force the hand

Actually, having a dominant team tends to increase ratings. People love them or hate them, but either way watch to see how they do.

 

[KingofHedgehogs]

Honestly they kind of are, not their fault, they are doing what they should be doing. It's just boring to watch. Cfb is losing fans at a rapid rate, mainly because there is no mystery in who is going to be good. I don't think it's about other teams failing to step up. Bama and UGA easily have the best players, best coaches, best support staffs, and most money. Now you add in NIL and it's tilted even more. NFL has steps to stop this. NCAA could do the same. Cap the salary of head coaches, cap the support staff size, cap recruiting staff size, don't allow playoff teams to take transfers, etc. So many options to create parity. The issue of "other teams stepping up" is the money gap is widening and you can't expect a pac 12 team to keep up with Bama. It just won't happen. NCAA needs to force the hand

Even if you think that, than how come it was never an issue big enough to write about untill the last 6 years or so? Was there not a lack of parity in 2007 for much of the same reasons you mentioned? How about in 1996? 1974?

Bama could be paying Saban the same amount of money, have the same resources, and not make the title more than a couple times....and nobody would criticize one team for ruining college football.

The aspect of "stepping up" is more than just effort, its decision making. The same decision making that Bama made to hire Saban. There are plenty of other judgemental decisions that play a part in success that dont live or die by the amount of money a program has.

Dabo was the 67th highest paid HC in 2009......yet look what happened later. He didnt start off making 8 or 9 million. He was paid around $800,000. Clemson wasnt a juggernaught before Dabo. Yet, they stepped up. If they can do it, I dont see why any power 5 team has any excuse.





Texas and Tenessee are in the top 10 richest college programs(texas #1) and they have been dumpster fires because they havent stepped up by good decisions.

 

[fsu939913]

Actually, having a dominant team tends to increase ratings. People love them or hate them, but either way watch to see how they do.

Not for this long. Small dynasties yes, not 10 to 15 yrs. It's why baseball lost its popularity a long time ago

 

[LizardGrad89]

Not for this long. Small dynasties yes, not 10 to 15 yrs. It's why baseball lost its popularity a long time ago

Ok, no.

 

[KingofHedgehogs]

Not for this long. Small dynasties yes, not 10 to 15 yrs. It's why baseball lost its popularity a long time ago

In the Yankees' heyday with Jeter and co. I dont recall a lack of viewership and popularity. I would even say it made me more invested as a Braves fan.....because I wanted us to beat them.

 

[Dannygator1989]

The Yankees only dominated for a few years in the scheme of things. I mean my Bombers had been largely an after thought for 15 years before the dynasty (it still hurts me that Donny Baseball came into the league a year after the Yankees won the World Series and retired a year before they won it again).

But the Bravos were dominant every year for 15 years (which is bras you because I've been told that in the 80s when they were so bad you could get take your whole little league team to a game for like $50 or something.).

Ive said many times that I enjoy the Bama dominance because it's truly incredible. It's historical. And I'm fortunate enough to watch it. Against the odds. They have maintained consistency for nearly 15 years. That's crazy, and you have to respect it.

Saban will retire or die one day.....maybe before I retire in 30 years but one can hope....I think the biggest issue is that only a handful of schools are committing to "excellence."

This goes back to the Florida Big 3 refusing to do what we're doing now and throwing resources at recruiting instead of just believing that "Florida schools recruit themselves."

I'll also say that the internet and technology has killed the ability to have great teams throughout the country. Nebraska can't lockdown regional talent because they're the only ones who know about the guys in the area. Texas can't dominate the talent pool because all the middling Texas schools are now in a good conference AND on TV. Texas doesn't get the monopoly.

Recruiting is national. That's why Florida, FSU and Miami all became better in the 80s and 90s. Population growth. Before 1980 Florida had the same population as Alabama.

All I'm saying is, it's not a Bama issue.

 

[fsu939913]

In the Yankees' heyday with Jeter and co. I dont recall a lack of viewership and popularity. I would even say it made me more invested as a Braves fan.....because I wanted us to beat them.

In the yr 14/15, the semifinal games had 15 mill people watching... I'd give you a hundred dollars if it's even close to that this yr. My guess would be less than 10. It's become boring to most.

 

[Gator Fever]

I am tired of this Bama run but with them playing Georgia you have to hope they win it again.

 

[martycat1]

Did Florida fans get tired of Spurriers run? It is what it is. If you want to be them, beat them.

 

[PacoGator19]

Watch out for USC Trojans to get in the game big time with now having a good coach and they will get involved in NIL heavily. A&M is throwing more money into the football program if you include NIL then probably anybody in the country. And Texas is going to be right there. Hopefully with all the changes and restructuring that UF is now making with Napier that we have now decided to get into the game. Money wise it looks like we are so we will see what happens. I think it might start to get a little more interesting.

 

[Michi_Gator]

Watch out for USC Trojans to get in the game big time with now having a good coach and they will get involved in NIL heavily. A&M is throwing more money into the football program if you include NIL then probably anybody in the country. And Texas is going to be right there. Hopefully with all the changes and restructuring that UF is now making with Napier that we have now decided to get into the game. Money wise it looks like we are so we will see what happens. I think it might start to get a little more interesting.

I said this earlier in another post, USC is about to become a MAJOR factor. Add to it Oregon is on the way down very quickly.

IMO USC will be a yearly playoff participant very soon

 

[TEBOW TIME]

I said this earlier in another post, USC is about to become a MAJOR factor. Add to it Oregon is on the way down very quickly.

Phil Knight the owner of NIKE just donated 500 million dollars to the Univ of Oregon.

 

[PacoGator19]

I said this earlier in another post, USC is about to become a MAJOR factor. Add to it Oregon is on the way down very quickly.

IMO USC will be a yearly playoff participant very soon

Yep USC is going to be back in the hunt very very soon. Probably as early as the 2023 season.

 

[Michi_Gator]

Phil Knight the owner of NIKE just donated 500 million dollars to the Univ of Oregon.

Phil Knight has money

But Hollywood/USC can match him dollar for dollar.

USC just hired a flashy coach, Oregon just hired a defensive coach who is used to 3 yards and a cloud of dust

The West Coast is about “flash” and USC wins in That department

 

[Gator Fever]

I said this earlier in another post, USC is about to become a MAJOR factor. Add to it Oregon is on the way down very quickly.

IMO USC will be a yearly playoff participant very soon

Not sure what I think happens with them but it helps being in the PAC 12. So far I haven't heard of any NIL crazy stuff with them like the Texas schools. Clemson is another team that I wonder if they will match teams like that as it doesn't seem like they are so far.

It just sucks we have like 5 teams in the future SEC that have no issue with playing that game.

 

[PacoGator19]

It just sucks we have like 5 teams in the future SEC that have no issue with playing that game.

It is because the SEC has by far the most money. It’s going to stay that way. Yes there will be some other programs here and there but I don’t see that changing anytime soon. Nobody is going to be able to compete with the SEC and the SEC just added Texas.
We (UF) are about to up our game and even then we may not be able to up it enough. That is how crazy it is getting.

 

[Gator Fever]

It is because the SEC has by far the most money. It’s going to stay that way. Yes there will be some other programs here and there but I don’t see that changing anytime soon. Nobody is going to be able to compete with the SEC and the SEC just added Texas.
We (UF) are about to up our game and even then we may not be able to up it enough. That is how crazy it is getting.

Yep or at least the big money guys that love football. I never believed NIL was going to take off as much at some schools where their rich boosters weren't SEC level football fans. Schools like Stanford and UCLA etc

 

[GADAWGinIraq]

Georgia has a weak secondary. OSU can pass the ball and exploit that, just like Bama did. Michigan caught a break with 4 inches of snow and 35 mph winds at home.

Weak secondary compared to whom? Because a unit is a particular team's weakest unit, it doesn't make it a weak unit compared to other teams. The Dawgs are rated 2nd in the country in pass defense and 3rd in the country at 172.2 passing yds/gm. 1st in the SEC in both metrics. Is that weak?

 

[Gator Fever]

Weak secondary compared to whom? Because a unit is a particular team's weakest unit, it doesn't make it a weak unit compared to other teams. The Dawgs are rated 2nd in the country in pass defense and 3rd in the country at 172.2 passing yds/gm. 1st in the SEC in both metrics. Is that weak?

Its not the 2nd best secondary when you take out the effect the front 7 has.

 

[PacoGator19]

Weak secondary compared to whom? Because a unit is a particular team's weakest unit, it doesn't make it a weak unit compared to other teams. The Dawgs are rated 2nd in the country in pass defense and 3rd in the country at 172.2 passing yds/gm. 1st in the SEC in both metrics. Is that weak?

Good passing teams have typically been able to exploit the UGA defense. See UF and Bama last year and then Bama this year. I personally haven’t been that impressed with the UGA secondary the last several years. Certainly high ranked guys but they certainly continue to be the weakness of the UGA defense. Could be lack of development or could be scheme. Your best bet to beat Bama’s defense is through the air as well. That is their weakness also. My guess is most defenses and DCs would prefer to focus on stopping the run. If you can’t stop the run then you can’t have a good defense. If you can stop the run then you have a chance to be good defensively.

 

[GADAWGinIraq]

Its not the 2nd best secondary when you take out the effect the front 7 has.

LOL

Good passing teams have typically been able to exploit the UGA defense. See UF and Bama last year and then Bama this year. I personally haven’t been that impressed with the UGA secondary the last several years. Certainly high ranked guys but they certainly continue to be the weakness of the UGA defense. Could be lack of development or could be scheme. Your best bet to beat Bama’s defense is through the air as well. That is their weakness also. My guess is most defenses and DCs would prefer to focus on stopping the run. If you can’t stop the run then you can’t have a good defense. If you can stop the run then you have a chance to be good defensively.

We had 5 defensive starters out last year against the Gators and had 1 bad quarter.
We had 1 bad quarter against Bama this year.

Someone must have been impressed with our secondary last year because 4 guys got drafted including 2 underclassmen in the first 33 picks in the draft (3star Eric Stokes to GB in 1st round). That seems to support development.

 

[PacoGator19]

LOL


We had 5 defensive starters out last year against the Gators and had 1 bad quarter.
We had 1 bad quarter against Bama this year.

Someone must have been impressed with our secondary last year because 4 guys got drafted including 2 underclassmen in the first 33 picks in the draft (3star Eric Stokes to GB in 1st round). That seems to support development.

So back to making excuses? I may be wrong but Pitts didn’t even play the 2nd half and UF didn’t need to throw the ball like they did in the first half to win the game. Same goes for the Bama games. It doesn’t matter if it is 1 quarter or 2 quarters or whatever. UGAs secondary got gashed. Period. It was one of the main reasons they lost those games. The CB that got drafted by the Jags (Tyson Campbell) was drafted way way too early and I personally don’t think he’s that good. He wasn’t the only draft mistake the Jags made.
Do you disagree that passing teams give you more trouble than running teams?

 

[GatorNation79]

I actually like 12 a LOT more more than 16. I like the top 4 teams getting a bye week - it's a nice reward for an elite season. You'd still get in the 1 or 2 G5-schools that "deserve" it for going undefeated. And you'd essentially get in all the 2nd tier teams that have a chance to win 1 against the elite schools.

Going to 16 is kind of a downer imo.

Agreed, 12 max but that's a nice playoff.

 

[GADAWGinIraq]

So back to making excuses? I may be wrong but Pitts didn’t even play the 2nd half and UF didn’t need to throw the ball like they did in the first half to win the game. Same goes for the Bama games. It doesn’t matter if it is 1 quarter or 2 quarters or whatever. UGAs secondary got gashed. Period. It was one of the main reasons they lost those games. The CB that got drafted by the Jags (Tyson Campbell) was drafted way way too early and I personally don’t think he’s that good. He wasn’t the only draft mistake the Jags made.
Do you disagree that passing teams give you more trouble than running teams?

I didn't make excuses. I told you what happened. You're trying to make excuses for our ranking in pass defense. Of the top 20 pass defenses in yards allowed, we also had the most attempts against. Look, my original response was to someone who said we were weak. I'll ask again, weak compared to whom?

Tyson has improved during the season. Perhaps he should have stayed for his senior year but guys seldom pass up first/second round grades/money.

 

[Nicktheslick]

I didn't make excuses. I told you what happened. You're trying to make excuses for our ranking in pass defense. Of the top 20 pass defenses in yards allowed, we also had the most attempts against. Look, my original response was to someone who said we were weak. I'll ask again, weak compared to whom?

Tyson has improved during the season. Perhaps he should have stayed for his senior year but guys seldom pass up first/second round grades/money.

If you can shut down Bryce Young and company Monday night I’ll give you some props.

 

[Countygator1]

Weak secondary compared to whom? Because a unit is a particular team's weakest unit, it doesn't make it a weak unit compared to other teams. The Dawgs are rated 2nd in the country in pass defense and 3rd in the country at 172.2 passing yds/gm. 1st in the SEC in both metrics. Is that weak?

Then I'm sure you will have no problem shutting down Bama's passing game.

 

[Countygator1]

I didn't make excuses. I told you what happened. You're trying to make excuses for our ranking in pass defense. Of the top 20 pass defenses in yards allowed, we also had the most attempts against. Look, my original response was to someone who said we were weak. I'll ask again, weak compared to whom?

Tyson has improved during the season. Perhaps he should have stayed for his senior year but guys seldom pass up first/second round grades/money.

Compared to teams that can actually pass. Bama has the 8th ranked passing offense, the 2nd best passing team you faced was I believe us ranked around 50, and you know how well we threw it. Last year's Gator offense would throw for 300+ against this years dawg team too.