Alabama Ruining College Football

[KingofHedgehogs]

because they are too good? The writer of the article below thinks so.

"Saban and ’Bama are doing their jobs, but it would be nice if they weren’t so good at it."


Don't think he is the only one to share that opinion. I have seen so many people voice the same perspective. They complain about how its another rematch between bama and the dawgs and cry how its boring......yet not a single word from anybody about the real solution. Get better. It can be done, just ask Clemson.

Instead of complaining about how youre tired of seeing saban vs kirby part 57.....how about complaining about how these other teams keep failing to step up.

In truth, lots of people have a "participation trophy" mentality.
They dont want want the best teams to be in the championship. As I saw today, it was mentioned they want bama to play UGA in the semifinal so other teams can appear in the championship. They don't want Ali vs Frazier.....They want Ali vs Bob Foster.

Nick Saban and Alabama pop Cincinnati and are ruining college football | Opinion

With an easy win over Cincinnati in the Cotton Bowl, Alabama predictably advances to another championship game.

news.yahoo.com

 

[NavigatorII]

I read another equally stupid article last night. The media won't be happy until there is a 16 team playoff scenario.............like that would change the results at the end of the day............but it would definitely cheapen the regular season and dilute the importance of rivalry games. They won't be happy until CFB becomes the No Fun League.

 

[Gator Fever]

I read another equally stupid article last night. The media won't be happy until there is a 16 team playoff scenario.............like that would change the results at the end of the day............but it would definitely cheapen the regular season and dilute the importance of rivalry games. They won't be happy until CFB becomes the No Fun League.

I think 8 is the right number but the financial stuff says they have to move to 12 teams to get a lot more money coming in.

Here is what a 12 team playoff would have looked like if the top 4 conference champs got byes.

First round​

No. 12 Pittsburgh at No. 5 Georgia
No. 11 Michigan State at No. 6 Notre Dame
No. 10 Utah at No. 7 Ohio State
No. 9 Oklahoma State at No. 8 Mississippi

Second round​

Pitt-Georgia winner vs. Baylor in the Fiesta Bowl
Michigan State-Notre Dame winner vs. Cincinnati in the Peach Bowl
Utah-Ohio State winner vs. Michigan in the Rose Bowl
Oklahoma State-Ole Miss winner vs. Alabama in the Sugar Bowl

 

[KingofHedgehogs]

I read another equally stupid article last night. The media won't be happy until there is a 16 team playoff scenario.............like that would change the results at the end of the day............but it would definitely cheapen the regular season and dilute the importance of rivalry games. They won't be happy until CFB becomes the No Fun League.

Tbh, Im not totally opposed to it, but my reasons are different than the media's pov. I think the winner will remain the same in most cases, but the semifinal games will certainly be more competitive than the last 6 years or so after weeding out highly ranked pretenders.

As for rivalry games goes, I think of the years where UGA has had an easier path to claim the SEC-E....and even if we beat them in the regular season it would mean nothing in the end as long as they cruise through a softer SEC schedule. As long as UF didnt completely crap the bed and be ranked in the top 16 they could be provided another opportunity to make it to the championship.

It potentially takes away the effect and disadvantage of unbalanced conference scheduling.

Also, December.....by and large is filled with off-days or meaningless bowls for "bragging rights" that last a couple days, if that. At least setting the second half of december aside from games like the Captain Crunch Bowl of ECU vs UWAT or whatever.....and instead play quality games with good teams.

 

[Gator Fever]

Tbh, Im not totally opposed to it, but my reasons are different than the media's pov. I think the winner will remain the same in most cases, but the semifinal games will certainly be more competitive than the last 6 years or so after weeding out highly ranked pretenders.

As for rivalry games goes, I think of the years where UGA has had an easier path to claim the SEC-E....and even if we beat them in the regular season it would mean nothing in the end as long as they cruise through a softer SEC schedule. As long as UF didnt completely crap the bed and be ranked in the top 16 they could be provided another opportunity to make it to the championship.

It potentially takes away the effect and disadvantage of unbalanced conference scheduling.

Also, December.....by and large is filled with off-days or meaningless bowls for "bragging rights" that last a couple days, if that. At least setting the second half of december aside from games like the Captain Crunch Bowl of ECU vs UWAT or whatever.....and instead play quality games with good teams.

I doubt we see a 16 team playoff but with 12 teams it pretty much guarantees any 2 loss SEC team gets in. I think that would especially make it easier for SEC East teams to get in.

 

[gatorbuilderorlando]

I actually like 12 a LOT more more than 16. I like the top 4 teams getting a bye week - it's a nice reward for an elite season. You'd still get in the 1 or 2 G5-schools that "deserve" it for going undefeated. And you'd essentially get in all the 2nd tier teams that have a chance to win 1 against the elite schools.

Going to 16 is kind of a downer imo.

 

[Gator Fever]

I actually like 12 a LOT more more than 16. I like the top 4 teams getting a bye week - it's a nice reward for an elite season. You'd still get in the 1 or 2 G5-schools that "deserve" it for going undefeated. And you'd essentially get in all the 2nd tier teams that have a chance to win 1 against the elite schools.

Going to 16 is kind of a downer imo.

Don't they need a deal for a 12 team playoff in a few weeks or the first year of it would get pushed back another year. I think I remember hearing that a while back.

 

[gatorbuilderorlando]

Don't they need a deal for a 12 team playoff in a few weeks or the first year of it would get pushed back another year. I think I remember hearing that a while back.

Not sure - others probably know way more than I do on the contract side of things. I'm just commenting on my ideal is all and why I like the 12 team scenario.

 

[ocalaman]

It's truly incredible what Saban has done at Alabama. I haven't liked Bama football since I was a kid in the '60's, but I certainly respect the job Saban has done there. Jealous, wishing we had someone like him in Gainesville.

 

[Michi_Gator]

So if you add two weeks to the playoffs, where do those games get taken from?

I can’t see a scenario where they allow college kids to play 17 games.

Conferences will never kill their title games.

So, I know the common answer I will get is get rid of the Ga Southern, etc. games. That is fine but then G5 will almost need to do its own thing because they won’t make the money they need.

I guess I just don’t see it, we couldn’t find a third or fourth team worthy. The semis have traditionally been boring, blowouts (13/16) I believe. All yesterday was pretty much a dormailty to keep people outside the south from saying “The SEC is overrated, what about (insert shit team here).”

Football is basketball, the buzzer beater upset of 14 v 3 just doesn’t happen

 

[Gator Fever]

So if you add two weeks to the playoffs, where do those games get taken from?

I can’t see a scenario where they allow college kids to play 17 games.

Conferences will never kill their title games.

So, I know the common answer I will get is get rid of the Ga Southern, etc. games. That is fine but then G5 will almost need to do its own thing because they won’t make the money they need.

I guess I just don’t see it, we couldn’t find a third or fourth team worthy. The semis have traditionally been boring, blowouts (13/16) I believe. All yesterday was pretty much a dormailty to keep people outside the south from saying “The SEC is overrated, what about (insert shit team here).”

Football is basketball, the buzzer beater upset of 14 v 3 just doesn’t happen

I think they will allow for the possibility a few teams end up playing 17 games. I doubt we get too many upsets either except for the initial # 5 to # 12 matchups.

 

[sadgator]

sadgator can only hope and wish that Alabama “ruins” college football for one more night in the National Championship game.

 

[KingofHedgehogs]

So if you add two weeks to the playoffs, where do those games get taken from?

I can’t see a scenario where they allow college kids to play 17 games.

Conferences will never kill their title games.

So, I know the common answer I will get is get rid of the Ga Southern, etc. games. That is fine but then G5 will almost need to do its own thing because they won’t make the money they need.

I guess I just don’t see it, we couldn’t find a third or fourth team worthy. The semis have traditionally been boring, blowouts (13/16) I believe. All yesterday was pretty much a dormailty to keep people outside the south from saying “The SEC is overrated, what about (insert shit team here).”

Football is basketball, the buzzer beater upset of 14 v 3 just doesn’t happen

Fair points

As for 17 games goes, whomever makes it to the championship already plays 15 games. So, the NCAA/colleges are already on board with playing that many games......and in a 16 playoff half of those teams wont be playing more games than whats already accepted(15)....and for those teams knocked out in the first round it could be a total of 13 or 14 games.

 

[Countygator1]

I don't know what the answer is, but this 4 team playoff not working. 21 point average margin of victory, yet during the regular season Bama had 5 games that were one score. I do not believe we are getting the 4 hottest teams in.

 

[NavigatorII]

I think 8 is the right number but the financial stuff says they have to move to 12 teams to get a lot more money coming in.

Here is what a 12 team playoff would have looked like if the top 4 conference champs got byes.

First round​

No. 12 Pittsburgh at No. 5 Georgia
No. 11 Michigan State at No. 6 Notre Dame
No. 10 Utah at No. 7 Ohio State
No. 9 Oklahoma State at No. 8 Mississippi

Second round​

Pitt-Georgia winner vs. Baylor in the Fiesta Bowl
Michigan State-Notre Dame winner vs. Cincinnati in the Peach Bowl
Utah-Ohio State winner vs. Michigan in the Rose Bowl
Oklahoma State-Ole Miss winner vs. Alabama in the Sugar Bowl

Not no but HELL no. Beyond 6 teams is just a joke. Just look at yesterday. Meatchicken destroyed OSU, who lost twice. Notre Lame? Surely ye jest. My grandmother could score 45 on Ole Miss. Utah, like Cincinnati plays a full schedule of sisters of the poor. Okie State? More of the same. PItt? 🤣

A case could be made for 6 teams to spice things up, since bowl games are completely meaningless already due to the 4 team playoff. The two top seeds get a bye and then proceed from there. There are never more than 6 teams worthy that are capable of winning it all.

 

[KingofHedgehogs]

I don't know what the answer is, but this 4 team playoff not working. 21 point average margin of victory, yet during the regular season Bama had 5 games that were one score. I do not believe we are getting the 4 hottest teams in.

Yep, thats what I was thinking.

 

[Nicktheslick]

This dominate junk will end in a few years when NIL kicks in. The the money teams will come to the fore.

 

[PacoGator19]

Why add more teams? So we can have more blowouts? More often than not most of the playoff games with 4 teams haven’t even been that competitive. I haven’t fact checked but I certainly like we have had more “uncompetitive” playoff games than “competitive” playoff games b

 

[Countygator1]

Why add more teams? So we can have more blowouts? More often than not most of the playoff games with 4 teams haven’t even been that competitive. I haven’t fact checked but I certainly like we have had more “uncompetitive” playoff games than “competitive” playoff games b

The average margin of victory has been 21! Wow! My point is we aren't getting necessarily the 4 best teams, hence why all the blowouts. Bama is dominating, but as I mentioned above they had 5 one score games in the regular season, but in the playoffs they are generally cleaning clocks.

 

[NavigatorII]

The average margin of victory has been 21! Wow! My point is we aren't getting necessarily the 4 best teams, hence why all the blowouts. Bama is dominating, but as I mentioned above they had 5 one score games in the regular season, but in the playoffs they are generally cleaning clocks.

This year, who would you replace Michigan and the Cincy Mirage with? The Luckeyes already got their asses kicked TWICE. Notre Dame? 🤣 3 loss Utah? Chokelahoma?

 

[Michi_Gator]

This year, who would you replace Michigan and the Cincy Mirage with? The Luckeyes already got their asses kicked TWICE. Notre Dame? 🤣 3 loss Utah? Chokelahoma?

There are rarely more than two really good teams. Sometimes maybe a third. But I am just not seeing the benefit of putting Pitt in a playoff.

again, this is not basketball. Upsets in a playoff setting are extremely rare

 

[Countygator1]

This year, who would you replace Michigan and the Cincy Mirage with? The Luckeyes already got their asses kicked TWICE. Notre Dame? 🤣 3 loss Utah? Chokelahoma?

OSU would be a matchup nightmare for Georgia on turf and would give bama fits too. Utah had won 6 in a row to close out the season, etc. Either expand or go back to the bowls. Expanding would get you better matchups and teams that finished hot. Bama was fortunate in that they drew Cincy.....

 

[NavigatorII]

OSU would be a matchup nightmare for Georgia on turf and would give bama fits too. Utah had won 6 in a row to close out the season, etc. Either expand or go back to the bowls. Expanding would get you better matchups and teams that finished hot. Bama was fortunate in that they drew Cincy.....

Georgia was a nightmare for Michigan and I actually wanted UGA to lose! What makes you think OSU would do any better? 🤣 🤣 🤣

 

[Jeff from Jax]

Instead of complaining about how youre tired of seeing saban vs kirby part 57.....how about complaining about how these other teams keep failing to step up.

King,

Now we know why Riley left Oklahoma (soon to join SEC) & RAN all the way to the Left Coast & USC !

 

[Countygator1]

Georgia was a nightmare for Michigan and I actually wanted UGA to lose! What makes you think OSU would do any better? 🤣 🤣 🤣

Georgia has a weak secondary. OSU can pass the ball and exploit that, just like Bama did. Michigan caught a break with 4 inches of snow and 35 mph winds at home.

 

[Michi_Gator]

Georgia was a nightmare for Michigan and I actually wanted UGA to lose! What makes you think OSU would do any better? 🤣 🤣 🤣

because its about matchup.

To win Michigan must run between the tackles, OSU passes.

UGa is much better against the run than the pass

same reason Michigan St beat Michigan and OSU literally put 42 points up in just over a quarter and beat Michigan St by 50

Not all matchups are equal

 

[PacoGator19]

The average margin of victory has been 21! Wow! My point is we aren't getting necessarily the 4 best teams, hence why all the blowouts. Bama is dominating, but as I mentioned above they had 5 one score games in the regular season, but in the playoffs they are generally cleaning clocks.

Because over the course of the season an SEC schedule is much tougher than playing Cincy or Notre Dame in a 1 game scenario. In the SEC it is tough to get up for games week in and week out due to the amount of talent in the conference. Smaller margin for error.

 

[NavigatorII]

Because over the course of the season an SEC schedule is much tougher than playing Cincy or Notre Dame in a 1 game scenario. In the SEC it is tough to get up for games week in and week out due to the amount of talent in the conference. Smaller margin for error.

No kidding. I saw Tulane give Cincy they could say grace over for a half. If Tulane had even five 3 star players they would have kicked their ass. 🤣

 

[GwinnettDawg]

As David Pollack pointed out today the semifinals are rarely competitive so what would expansion do?

 

[TEBOW TIME]

We fixing to see what OSU has when they play Utah and we are gonna see what our opening opponent in Utah has for 2022.

 

[KingofHedgehogs]

King,

Now we know why Riley left Oklahoma (soon to join SEC) & RAN all the way to the Left Coast & USC !

No doubt

 

[LizardGrad89]

I actually like 12 a LOT more more than 16. I like the top 4 teams getting a bye week - it's a nice reward for an elite season. You'd still get in the 1 or 2 G5-schools that "deserve" it for going undefeated. And you'd essentially get in all the 2nd tier teams that have a chance to win 1 against the elite schools.

Going to 16 is kind of a downer imo.

Agreed. There has to be an incentive to winning your conference. Getting a first round bye would do it.

This is why I think the second round games (and not only the first round) need to be home field, so the top four seeds all get a home game. It would be a disadvantage to play a team on a neutral field that had a game the week before while you were off for a month and are a bit rusty. Getting the game at home counters that.

 

[LizardGrad89]

As David Pollack pointed out today the semifinals are rarely competitive so what would expansion do?

A good point was made earlier that pretenders would be exposed in the first two rounds and only the better teams would be in the final 4.

 

[KingofHedgehogs]

A good point was made earlier that pretenders would be exposed in the first two rounds and only the better teams would be in the final 4.

Yep

Would Cincy or Michigan be in the Semis in a 12 or 16 team playoff? Or even 8? I doubt it.

Would Bama beat OSU in the playoff? Who knows.....but it certainly would be a much more interesting game than verses Cincy.


The thing is that we dont have to look at this as bystanders. This format could help UF as well.

 

[Michi_Gator]

We fixing to see what OSU has when they play Utah and we are gonna see what our opening opponent in Utah has for 2022.

Aren’t going to learn much about OSU. Most of their seniors opted out. This is literally a shell of their team.

 

[KingofHedgehogs]

This year, who would you replace Michigan and the Cincy Mirage with? The Luckeyes already got their asses kicked TWICE. Notre Dame? 🤣 3 loss Utah? Chokelahoma?

Yes, oklahoma's reputation precedes them.....but you still have to give them a chance. After all, isnt that what was given to Cincy and their horrible schedule?

And frankly, its not Bob Stoops at the helm anymore so who knows how it would play out.

 

[TEBOW TIME]

Aren’t going to learn much about OSU. Most of their seniors opted out. This is literally a shell of their team.

yeah I reported in my bowl opt-out post about OSU having 5 major players out especially the 2 receivers.

 

[KingofHedgehogs]

As David Pollack pointed out today the semifinals are rarely competitive so what would expansion do?

They are rarely competitive because certain people just give certain teams the benefit of the doubt rather than the teams earning it. What about the years of complaining that Notre Dame was in the semis despite having a horrible schedule? Same with Cincy.


An expanded playoff increases the likelyhood that they dont reach the semis.....and if they somehow still make it? Then we can at least give them more credit for being there.

 

[NavigatorII]

Aren’t going to learn much about OSU. Most of their seniors opted out. This is literally a shell of their team.

And this is why I laugh when SEC haters say our post season results are dismal. They ain't where it matters. But regular bowl games are meaningless under the current playoff format. Nobody cares. Not players, not fans. We're approaching the NFL (No Fun League) zone.

 

[fsu939913]

because they are too good? The writer of the article below thinks so.

"Saban and ’Bama are doing their jobs, but it would be nice if they weren’t so good at it."


Don't think he is the only one to share that opinion. I have seen so many people voice the same perspective. They complain about how its another rematch between bama and the dawgs and cry how its boring......yet not a single word from anybody about the real solution. Get better. It can be done, just ask Clemson.

Instead of complaining about how youre tired of seeing saban vs kirby part 57.....how about complaining about how these other teams keep failing to step up.

In truth, lots of people have a "participation trophy" mentality.
They dont want want the best teams to be in the championship. As I saw today, it was mentioned they want bama to play UGA in the semifinal so other teams can appear in the championship. They don't want Ali vs Frazier.....They want Ali vs Bob Foster.

Nick Saban and Alabama pop Cincinnati and are ruining college football | Opinion

With an easy win over Cincinnati in the Cotton Bowl, Alabama predictably advances to another championship game.

news.yahoo.com

Honestly they kind of are, not their fault, they are doing what they should be doing. It's just boring to watch. Cfb is losing fans at a rapid rate, mainly because there is no mystery in who is going to be good. I don't think it's about other teams failing to step up. Bama and UGA easily have the best players, best coaches, best support staffs, and most money. Now you add in NIL and it's tilted even more. NFL has steps to stop this. NCAA could do the same. Cap the salary of head coaches, cap the support staff size, cap recruiting staff size, don't allow playoff teams to take transfers, etc. So many options to create parity. The issue of "other teams stepping up" is the money gap is widening and you can't expect a pac 12 team to keep up with Bama. It just won't happen. NCAA needs to force the hand