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ABC reporter who was writing book critical of Hiden was raided by FBI in APRIL and HASN'T BEEN SEEN SINCE

We all want the same things. This why we need the BScucks of the world. Raw hamburger to gnaw on. There is no point bickering amongst ourselves. We need our chew toys, and lawd knows, these fools are tasty. 😂
I stayed classy with someone who called me an asshole today, totally unprovoked

Don’t worry, we are just having a friendly conversation about ideology. I see where he’s coming from.

The good news is we’re debating between two good options.
 
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I don’t disagree. He’s abrasive and has moments that make me cringe. He’s far from perfect.

All I’m saying is we have examples of much less abrasive politicians being turned into monsters by the liberal media. It’s actually worse for any AA who doesn’t stay on the plantation. It doesn’t matter who you are - if you don’t fall into line an entire segment of the population is going to think you are a really bad person.

So as long as the policies are sound and consistent, and the abrasiveness is balanced, that particular attribute doesn’t matter. They just want you to think it does so you support people that are easier for them to beat.

Positive enthusiasm in politics wins elections…

Agree. I think we have that in DeSantis and, pardon the expression, I think it comes in a better package.

I would obviously have no issue with Trump winning. I just personally think that we have a better shot with DeSantis.
 
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Agree. I think we have that in DeSantis and, pardon the expression, I think it comes in a better package.

I would obviously have no issue with Trump winning. I just personally think that we have a better shot with DeSantis.
And I'm telling you, I've seen a thing or two.
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The only reason you say that is the MSM lying POS media can't focus on more than one thing at a time. They aren't either competent or smart enough to chew gum at the same time. Mark my words, if Trump is not the next nominee, it won't matter if GOD himself is on the ticket, the Dimtards will go into full attack mode. I can't believe some of you don't get this yet? :oops:
 
That's a fair point. But I also think that average voter is less likely to vote for Trump.
I will agree that there is a certain subset of the voter base that simply doesn't like Trump and simply cannot vote for him due to the way he is. It's really got nothing to do with his performance, they just see him as an asshole and can't overlook that.

So then, do we turn our back on Trump as a result, and go for 'close enough' in DeSantis, who is not seem as being an asshole by that same subset?

I say no. DeSantis is not Trump. It's like saying we give up Saban cause some Bama fans think he's an asshole and we go with Dabo, who is a Bama grad and beloved by all.

Will we win with Dabo, and win big? Yep. Will we win more with Saban? Yep.

I want to win more. I'm ok with Trump flying off the cuff occasionally at a rally and saying lets beat the shit out of that protestor just like I'm ok with Saban bullying a rookie reporter at a press conference that asks a dumb question.

I'll put up with the asshole if it means America is saved. DeSantis may get us to the same place, but he will take longer to do it and the ride won't be quite as smooth.

I'm fine with letting the asshole drive. Every day we have to endure this mess hurts all of us.
 
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And I'm telling you, I've seen a thing or two.
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The only reason you say that is the MSM lying POS media can't focus on more than one thing at a time. They aren't either competent or smart enough to chew gum at the same time. Mark my words, if Trump is not the next nominee, it won't matter if GOD himself is on the ticket, the Dimtards will go into full attack mode. I can't believe some of you don't get this yet? :oops:
All you have to do is look at what they did to Brett Kavanaugh. I think the media ended up 'producing' more women than he had 'sexually abused' than they did for Trump.

Never proved any of those claims either.

If DeSantis runs in 2024, every woman he's ever talked to in his life will be offered money to say he abused them. We will suddenly 'learn' all the same things about DeSantis that we 'learned' about Kavanaugh.

The 'average voter' will go "Oh wow, have you heard what the news is saying about DeSantis? I dunno man...."

We need to stop letting the left and media pick our candidates.

Is Trump the best candidate out there? "Yes, but..."

There is no 'but'. The 'but' comes from trying to appease the left and media. Stop it.
 
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I 100% agree. But there's also no doubt that "swing voters", people who call themselves Republicans who are not, are much less likely to vote for Trump than they would be for DeSantis.

Those people in the middle are absolutely fed up with the left but most of them also hate and fear Trump...for whatever reason, and it truly doesn't matter why. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHY...the reality is that they do and they have a vote.

I believe that if the right, the actual right (meaning not either fringe of the right) supports DeSantis in 2024 that he will win in an absolute landslide.
Not so sure about this. These so called "Independent's" are usually just democrats in sheep's clothing...and hate DeSantis NOT for what he stands for, but how he does not help further their agendas. I know MANY "Independents", most are just libs, just like our "RINO's" are not real republican's.
 
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More votes than any R in history, despite a dirty election. A ridiculously high record on endorsements and more coming 11/8.

I can’t say DeSantis could do better, but if I had a choice I’d take the sure thing while it was an option. Keep building the America First bench and try to win multiple elections.
My problem here is I do not KNOW that DeSantis could accomplish what Trump does with the ridiculous head wind he gets because the left, the media and even entities in our Government go so unfairly hard against him. If some of you want DeSantis because you dislike the negative media, the attacks from the left, the FBI using their influence to change history, etc....I think you are mistaken. It has never been about Trump...it is about the road block to their ultimate agenda...and Trump was 100% in their way. DeSantis would be in their way also, and they would come after him just as hard if he was popular, and doing a great job..which he probably would.
 
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Trump isn't polarizing. The regime has attempted to paint him that way. In fact, no one in my lifetime has united people like DJT has done. No one gives a shit about Biden. A picture is worth 1000 words.

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YES YES YES!!! You get it. Too many are hoodwinked by the relentless negative coverage. The dim wits do this the BEST on the planet....keep repeating things so much that after a while...everyone starts believing that their statements are facts.
 
All you have to do is look at what they did to Brett Kavanaugh. I think the media ended up 'producing' more women than he had 'sexually abused' than they did for Trump.

Never proved any of those claims either.

If DeSantis runs in 2024, every woman he's ever talked to in his life will be offered money to say he abused them. We will suddenly 'learn' all the same things about DeSantis that we 'learned' about Kavanaugh.

The 'average voter' will go "Oh wow, have you heard what the news is saying about DeSantis? I dunno man...."

We need to stop letting the left and media pick our candidates.

Is Trump the best candidate out there? "Yes, but..."

There is no 'but'. The 'but' comes from trying to appease the left and media. Stop it.
100% you get it also. What is at stake is that this HAS to change. We CANNOT have the FBI, CIA and other alphabet agencies putting their foot on the scale when it comes to elections. We CANNOT let the MSM dictate who wins elections. We CANNOT have big tech censoring their political opponents. We CANNOT let our borders be open, and while I am at it..MOST IMPORTANT..our Constitution HAS TO BE FOLLOWED, even when it is uncomfortable. I KNOW Trump can accomplish these things, because he is so strong, and not for sale. MAYBE DeSantis can also....but Trump is the sure thing to save America...and I really do not want to gamble with our future!
 
He is polarizing. By definition that means people either love him or hate him. Clearly lots of people love him. The opposite is true as well. Very damn few are neutral when it comes to Trump.
I disagree. There are NOT a lot of people that hate Trump. That's a lie we've been fed by the media.

There are SOME people that don't like the way he acts. But if you talked to those people, you would find that most of them love what his policies have done for America more than they hate his mannerisms. And when they get in the voting booth, the fact that their wallet is twice as heavy under Trump will trump him farting at the dinner table.

You seem to think DeSantis is the same as Trump, but he's not the asshole that turns off voters.

I think DeSantis is good, but he's not Trump. Trump is a generational leader. If we 'just move on' from Trump cause we want to win the vote of a small subset of voters that refuse to vote for the asshole, then IMO we have done a disservice to our nation.
 
Trump isn't polarizing. The regime has attempted to paint him that way. In fact, no one in my lifetime has united people like DJT has done. No one gives a shit about Biden. A picture is worth 1000 words.

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Bingo. There are not millions of voters who refuse to vote for Trump simply because they think he's an asshole.

If Trump ran the nation like Hiden did, then yeah, I could see that. But Trump gave us the most prosperous America of our lifetimes.

We really think the smart play is to throw that away and go with DeSantis now instead of in 2028 cause we BELIEVE THE MEDIA that tells us Trump is polarizing????

I just don't get it. We have come so far, but we still have so much further to go.
 
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And I'm telling you, I've seen a thing or two.
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The only reason you say that is the MSM lying POS media can't focus on more than one thing at a time. They aren't either competent or smart enough to chew gum at the same time. Mark my words, if Trump is not the next nominee, it won't matter if GOD himself is on the ticket, the Dimtards will go into full attack mode. I can't believe some of you don't get this yet? :oops:

I absolutely get that...and I've acknowledged it as well. In this thread.
 
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BTW if there was some scenario where we had to choose between 4 more years of Trump OR 8 years of DeSantis, and we could only have one, ok that would require some thought.

But this isn't a choice we have to make: Trump gets 4 more years. DeSantis finishes his time in 2026 as Governor, gives us the blueprint for how every state in America should be run, then Trump gets to do rallies across the country for 2 years promoting DeSantis for President in 2028. DeSantis wins in 2028 with a massive landslide win and mandate from the people. He can walk into DC and get any policy he wants passed with almost no opposition. Remember by 2028, pubs will not only solidly control the House and Senate, but there will be many America First Senators and Representatives in place.

Everyone wins. Trump wins, DeSantis wins. Every American wins.

The left loses. But that's the goal.

BTW I know a lot of you dismiss Q. Q once said that the plan to save America did NOT start with Donald Trump in 2016. It started with the formation of the Freedom Caucus in 2015. Q also said that the plan will NOT end with Trump, and that there was a plan in place AFTER Trump.

One of the original members of the Freedom Caucus in 2015 was a Representative from Florida by the name of Ron DeSantis.
 
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In 2016, I voted against the Clinton Crime Syndicate and Arkancide.

In 2020, after watching Trump try to keep his promises, and seeing the job he did as President while fighting off the traitors to the Constitution and the bought Nazi MSM, I voted FOR Trump. His age in 2024 is his only drawback for me.

I'd vote for a Jim Jordan / Candice Owens ticket in a NY second.
I'd also vote for a DeSantis ticket.
But if Trump is running, then I'll vote for him over any left wing socialist traitor that they can put out there....
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I was standing on the docks in destin watching the rodeo fish weigh ins yesterday and the guy next to me started small talk about politics/biden, the fraud election, and how corrupt this administration is. He made the comment “where are all these biden voters”?

The interesting thing for me is that I have literally had this same conversation everywhere we have traveled. It’s crazy. There is no way Biden won that damn election, and furthermore I am more firmly entrenched that it was a massive landslide win for Trump.

IMO, the fraud was always part of the plan, but Trump was winning so big on election night that they panicked and had to shut it down. I know that has been rehashed a ton, but after going around the country this year I am further convinced of this. Our elections aren’t elections anymore, they are selections that are done by a few wealthy folks. Anyone that is confident in outcomes moving forward is fooling themselves.
I adapted a classical mechanics formula to our 2020 election. Probability of a Biden win was 0.00000000094. For me to achieve a Biden win, I had to insert a massive, massive, massive down ticket blue wave.
 
I will agree that there is a certain subset of the voter base that simply doesn't like Trump and simply cannot vote for him due to the way he is. It's really got nothing to do with his performance, they just see him as an asshole and can't overlook that.

So then, do we turn our back on Trump as a result, and go for 'close enough' in DeSantis, who is not seem as being an asshole by that same subset?

I say no. DeSantis is not Trump. It's like saying we give up Saban cause some Bama fans think he's an asshole and we go with Dabo, who is a Bama grad and beloved by all.

Will we win with Dabo, and win big? Yep. Will we win more with Saban? Yep.

I want to win more. I'm ok with Trump flying off the cuff occasionally at a rally and saying lets beat the shit out of that protestor just like I'm ok with Saban bullying a rookie reporter at a press conference that asks a dumb question.

I'll put up with the asshole if it means America is saved. DeSantis may get us to the same place, but he will take longer to do it and the ride won't be quite as smooth.

I'm fine with letting the asshole drive. Every day we have to endure this mess hurts all of us.
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