A Personal Example of COVID19 Insanity and Overreach

[gator1776]

My 11-year-old daughter is in a private Episcopal school where I live.
She is in the fifth grade.
Saturday night she attended a Halloween costume party at one of the other students houses.
Nobody who attended the party had any symptoms of infection of any kind.
Two days later, on Monday, one of the kids at the party, who does not even attend my daughters school, develop symptoms and tested positive for coronavirus.
We then get a surprisingly intrusive and demanding email from the principal of the private school we pay to send my child to interrogating my wife as to the amount of exposure my daughter had to this child. The tone of the email was demanding and authoritarian.
My daughter had zero exposure to this child. Apparently this child was in a room with several other children who attend my daughters school for more than 15 minutes but my daughter was outside during this exposed close contact time.
Last night the school board met. Now on the school board you will find three lawyers and no doctors.
The school board decided that the entire fifth grade would not be allowed back in school for two weeks based off of the CDC guidelines for quarantine after POTENTIAL exposure to somebody with coronavirus for more than 15 minutes. Keep in mind the kid was asymptomatic when he attended the party.

And this is what happens in the end. This is what massive overreach of authority looks like on an up close and personal level. Do they have the authority to do this? Well according to the three lawyers on the board if they don’t do it and follow the CDC guidelines and they open themselves up for lawsuits if something happens.

As a doctor, who cares for coronavirus patients probably more than anybody else in the state of Mississippi, I would’ve pointed out that those who were not exposed should still be allowed to attend school, those that were exposed could get a test in 2 to 3 days and, if negative could return the class, and that the likelihood of a child dying of coronavirus is 0.0001% which is substantially lower than the risk of them dying from influenza. But the current policies regarding Influenza state if you have influenza you simply stay home until you don’t have a fever and nobody else is quarantined.

This is what happens when public health officials that are not doctors that do not take care of patients make a policy and then lawyers interpret them.

another interesting sidenote is if I have been at the meeting as a licensed physician and argued against the CDC policies we have been warned that they may go after our license at the state level if we do such a thing.

just that some of y’all might enjoy what overreach of authority looks like on a micro-level.

Oh and of course we were not offered a refund on tuition for these two weeks.

For the Christians in the room does anybody remember what Christ did for the leopards? And this is a Christian Episcopal school.

 

[kjfreeze]

I don't remember Christ messing with leopards. Lepers? yes.
To me, this insanity is a stepping stone for what is about to come if we were to just kindly let Biden take over. This running of society is exactly what will happen on a much broader scale. They'll have control over all aspects of our lives. And what gets me more than anything are people who cannot see this. They cannot see the seriousness of this election that was like none in history. They can only see orange man bad - creepy Joe not great but better than orange man. Trump is adamant about bringing power back to the people and eliminating the corruption of governmental control over our country. What he has done has been nothing short of miraculous. If given 4 more years, this country might be in a great standing and favorable for our children and their children.

 

[gator1776]

I don't remember Christ messing with leopards. Lepers? yes.
To me, this insanity is a stepping stone for what is about to come if we were to just kindly let Biden take over. This running of society is exactly what will happen on a much broader scale. They'll have control over all aspects of our lives. And what gets me more than anything are people who cannot see this. They cannot see the seriousness of this election that was like none in history. They can only see orange man bad - creepy Joe not great but better than orange man. Trump is adamant about bringing power back to the people and eliminating the corruption of governmental control over our country. What he has done has been nothing short of miraculous. If given 4 more years, this country might be in a great standing and favorable for our children and their children.

I don't remember Christ messing with leopards. Lepers? yes.
To me, this insanity is a stepping stone for what is about to come if we were to just kindly let Biden take over. This running of society is exactly what will happen on a much broader scale. They'll have control over all aspects of our lives. And what gets me more than anything are people who cannot see this. They cannot see the seriousness of this election that was like none in history. They can only see orange man bad - creepy Joe not great but better than orange man. Trump is adamant about bringing power back to the people and eliminating the corruption of governmental control over our country. What he has done has been nothing short of miraculous. If given 4 more years, this country might be in a great standing and favorable for our children and their children.

Interesting thing about that, both spellings are acceptable when using that tense of leprosy.

At least according to the medical dictionary.

But will accept your spelling as long as the point is made. 😊

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

My 11-year-old daughter is in a private Episcopal school where I live.
She is in the fifth grade.
Saturday night she attended a Halloween costume party at one of the other students houses.
Nobody who attended the party had any symptoms of infection of any kind.
Two days later, on Monday, one of the kids at the party, who does not even attend my daughters school, develop symptoms and tested positive for coronavirus.
We then get a surprisingly intrusive and demanding email from the principal of the private school we pay to send my child to interrogating my wife as to the amount of exposure my daughter had to this child. The tone of the email was demanding and authoritarian.
My daughter had zero exposure to this child. Apparently this child was in a room with several other children who attend my daughters school for more than 15 minutes but my daughter was outside during this exposed close contact time.
Last night the school board met. Now on the school board you will find three lawyers and no doctors.
The school board decided that the entire fifth grade would not be allowed back in school for two weeks based off of the CDC guidelines for quarantine after POTENTIAL exposure to somebody with coronavirus for more than 15 minutes. Keep in mind the kid was asymptomatic when he attended the party.

And this is what happens in the end. This is what massive overreach of authority looks like on an up close and personal level. Do they have the authority to do this? Well according to the three lawyers on the board if they don’t do it and follow the CDC guidelines and they open themselves up for lawsuits if something happens.

As a doctor, who cares for coronavirus patients probably more than anybody else in the state of Mississippi, I would’ve pointed out that those who were not exposed should still be allowed to attend school, those that were exposed could get a test in 2 to 3 days and, if negative could return the class, and that the likelihood of a child dying of coronavirus is 0.0001% which is substantially lower than the risk of them dying from influenza. But the current policies regarding Influenza state if you have influenza you simply stay home until you don’t have a fever and nobody else is quarantined.

This is what happens when public health officials that are not doctors that do not take care of patients make a policy and then lawyers interpret them.

another interesting sidenote is if I have been at the meeting as a licensed physician and argued against the CDC policies we have been warned that they may go after our license at the state level if we do such a thing.

just that some of y’all might enjoy what overreach of authority looks like on a micro-level.

Oh and of course we were not offered a refund on tuition for these two weeks.

For the Christians in the room does anybody remember what Christ did for the leopards? And this is a Christian Episcopal school.

Wow , well my daughter is 20 and she got together with her friends on the Friday before Halloween. Asymptomatic friend gave it to her and one other. Parent of the asymptomatic guest had symptoms and had gone to test but told no one including daughter. She allowed her daughter to go to party. We found out on Tuesday Nov 3. that girl was positive. My daughter has church function on Tuesday nights. We agreed she should not go and she immediately self-isolated from the rest of the family and wore a mask when coming into the living room.

Daughter got the 15 min test and it came back positive the same day( Wednesday 4th). Her only symptom at the time was runny nose. She has since had a partial loss of taste and smell. She never ran a fever. Her get out of jail is the 14th if no resp symptoms and no fever..

My wife just had ACF surgery and had a cough with mild fever. Neurosurgeon sent her to a Vanderbilt Walk in Clinic Wednesday 4th in the evening. Her test came back negative on Friday 6th.

Rest of family doesnt get out of quarantine until 28th.

Nurse Practitioner said in TN quarantine is voluntary and that I could go out if necessary but to be sure an follow social distancing rules and wear a mask.

Looking to close refi and told company I could meet person but they had to of course know our status and I said we should meet at an outdoor pavilion at a local park. Doubt I will have any takers.

Timing is everything and after quarantine we may have to update an already super slow underwriting process. I started this in September. Rate expires Dec 21st.

Casualties:
Thanksgiving,
Disney trip that was already rescheduled from summer
Scout camping trip for son.

Son is doing distance learning. I had to pull him out the day my daughter tested positive. His private nondenominational Christian school uses office 365 including Micorsoft Meetings which is similar to Zoom.

HS just had a positive case this Monday and now entire HS is on distance learning a min of 3 days and any student may continue for up to 14 days or if quarantined due to positive case at home up to 24 days.

Now on top of all this mess we have two new animals. A 4 month old cat and an 8 week old dog. I have to do whatever the wife cant do. Take care of daughter. Proctor son. And literally clean up poop whenever we fail to get puppy outside fast enough.

Thank God I am currently without a "job."

 

[kjfreeze]

Interesting thing about that, both spellings are acceptable when using that tense of leprosy.

At least according to the medical dictionary.

But will accept your spelling as long as the point is made. 😊

We have had similar issues here but not to the extent you had to go through. We had an intense phone call but all cleared for our 11 year-old. I've been arguing with the local television network here who coined a phrase they're proud of: Covid - facts not fear. Everyday they start the news with this item telling us how may people have tested positive.... I've told them every time they run these stories they are actually promoting fear in spite of facts. I never watch them anymore.

 

[gator1776]

Wow , well my daughter is 20 and she got together with her friends on the Friday before Halloween. Asymptomatic friend gave it to her and one other. Parent of the asymptomatic guest had symptoms and had gone to test but told no one including daughter. She allowed her daughter to go to party. We found out on Tuesday Nov 3. that girl was positive. My daughter has church function on Tuesday nights. We agreed she should not go and she immediately self-isolated from the rest of the family and wore a mask when coming into the living room.

Daughter got the 15 min test and it came back positive the same day( Wednesday 4th). Her only symptom at the time was runny nose. She has since had a partial loss of taste and smell. She never ran a fever. Her get out of jail is the 14th if no resp symptoms and no fever..

My wife just had ACF surgery and had a cough with mild fever. Neurosurgeon sent her to a Vanderbilt Walk in Clinic Wednesday 4th in the evening. Her test came back negative on Friday 6th.

Rest of family doesnt get out of quarantine until 28th.

Nurse Practitioner said in TN quarantine is voluntary and that I could go out if necessary but to be sure an follow social distancing rules and wear a mask.

Looking to close refi and told company I could meet person but they had to of course know our status and I said we should meet at an outdoor pavilion at a local park. Doubt I will have any takers.

Timing is everything and after quarantine we may have to update an already super slow underwriting process. I started this in September. Rate expires Dec 21st.

Casualties:
Thanksgiving,
Disney trip that was already rescheduled from summer
Scout camping trip for son.

Son is doing distance learning. I had to pull him out the day my daughter tested positive. His private nondenominational Christian school uses office 365 including Micorsoft Meetings which is similar to Zoom.

HS just had a positive case this Monday and now entire HS is on distance learning a min of 3 days and any student may continue for up to 14 days or if quarantined due to positive case at home up to 24 days.

Now on top of all this mess we have two new animals. A 4 month old cat and an 8 week old dog. I have to do whatever the wife cant do. Take care of daughter. Proctor son. And literally clean up poop whenever we fail to get puppy outside fast enough.

Thank God I am currently without a "job."

Yup
Ouch

 

[gator1776]

We have had similar issues here but not to the extent you had to go through. We had an intense phone call but all cleared for our 11 year-old. I've been arguing with the local television network here who coined a phrase they're proud of: Covid - facts not fear. Everyday they start the news with this item telling us how may people have tested positive.... I've told them every time they run these stories they are actually promoting fear in spite of facts. I never watch them anymore.

Glad it worked out for you. I have to be careful as pointed out in my original statement what I say or do because I’m license to practice medicine in the state and if I go against certain guidelines I could get in trouble. Lol

 

[kjfreeze]

Oh, a side note. We have a governmental pass to not be charged for Covid testing, but if you have insurance, the doctors/hospital will bill your insurance. I have a friend who said his insurance company was billed over $3000 for one test. So, if there wasn't any money involved, do you think anyone would really care that much?

That number was wrong. He just texted me and said it was $1250 from the facility and $400 from the doctor totaling $1650. Perhaps this too is why they like testing so much.

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

I don't remember Christ messing with leopards. Lepers? yes.
To me, this insanity is a stepping stone for what is about to come if we were to just kindly let Biden take over. This running of society is exactly what will happen on a much broader scale. They'll have control over all aspects of our lives. And what gets me more than anything are people who cannot see this. They cannot see the seriousness of this election that was like none in history. They can only see orange man bad - creepy Joe not great but better than orange man. Trump is adamant about bringing power back to the people and eliminating the corruption of governmental control over our country. What he has done has been nothing short of miraculous. If given 4 more years, this country might be in a great standing and favorable for our children and their children.

I am not taking vaccine until there has been a few weeks of it being out. It critical that if Trump loses that this is rolled out before Biden comes in or he will try lock down. He may try anyway but I think it hits courts and is shot down and most people getting the shot as soon as available anyway and ignoring Sleepy Joe. He has no enforcement mechanism.

 

[kjfreeze]

Wow , well my daughter is 20 and she got together with her friends on the Friday before Halloween. Asymptomatic friend gave it to her and one other. Parent of the asymptomatic guest had symptoms and had gone to test but told no one including daughter. She allowed her daughter to go to party. We found out on Tuesday Nov 3. that girl was positive. My daughter has church function on Tuesday nights. We agreed she should not go and she immediately self-isolated from the rest of the family and wore a mask when coming into the living room.

Daughter got the 15 min test and it came back positive the same day( Wednesday 4th). Her only symptom at the time was runny nose. She has since had a partial loss of taste and smell. She never ran a fever. Her get out of jail is the 14th if no resp symptoms and no fever..

My wife just had ACF surgery and had a cough with mild fever. Neurosurgeon sent her to a Vanderbilt Walk in Clinic Wednesday 4th in the evening. Her test came back negative on Friday 6th.

Rest of family doesnt get out of quarantine until 28th.

Nurse Practitioner said in TN quarantine is voluntary and that I could go out if necessary but to be sure an follow social distancing rules and wear a mask.

Looking to close refi and told company I could meet person but they had to of course know our status and I said we should meet at an outdoor pavilion at a local park. Doubt I will have any takers.

Timing is everything and after quarantine we may have to update an already super slow underwriting process. I started this in September. Rate expires Dec 21st.

Casualties:
Thanksgiving,
Disney trip that was already rescheduled from summer
Scout camping trip for son.

Son is doing distance learning. I had to pull him out the day my daughter tested positive. His private nondenominational Christian school uses office 365 including Micorsoft Meetings which is similar to Zoom.

HS just had a positive case this Monday and now entire HS is on distance learning a min of 3 days and any student may continue for up to 14 days or if quarantined due to positive case at home up to 24 days.

Now on top of all this mess we have two new animals. A 4 month old cat and an 8 week old dog. I have to do whatever the wife cant do. Take care of daughter. Proctor son. And literally clean up poop whenever we fail to get puppy outside fast enough.

Thank God I am currently without a "job."

Man, after reading all that, I need a drink.